The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[VegetaSSJBlue]

Tenshinhan [BoZ] vs. Mr. Popo
Kuririn [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]
Yamcha [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Old]

Raditz vs. Dende

[ZombieVito]

Popo is shown sparring with Krillin six months into the training. The dialogue tells us that they were experiencing the strict training of Kami everyday. You really think he watched the entire time and did nothing else? What did he even teach them, then?

Come on, Zombie. Piccolo said he was going to show Krillin a glimpse of his true power, then admits taking over the world won't be so easy with guys like him around. Tien is way above Krillin. Why is Tien being above Daimao really a big deal?

Yes, I do believe God sat on in ass the entire time. You don't need to spar or battle them to teach them.

Because it conflicts with official information.

But let's agree to disagree instead of derailing the thread further.

[apex_pretador]

and BoZ yamcha is below 22nd TB Tien if we are taking them seriously, while BoZ Yamcha should be closer to daimao than 22nd TB Tien.

Totally forgot this.

Honestly, calculating Dragon Ball Battle Powers is impossible. Old Daimao dominated (180) Goku with less than half of his power. Young Daimao outstrips Old Daimao right when his youth is restored, only to power-up significantly a bit later. Yeah.

nah, it is not impossible. See points for that:

• Goku wasn't 180. He can't be 180 if BoZ Yamcha is 177, because yamcha was following daimao-speed movements at 23rd TB. Even if yamcha slacked off , he must be about 180-185 at 23rd TB.
• Piccolo Daimao is one cocky guy.
• He can't output power up to his maximum without turning young?

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Alright, then.

Tenshinhan [BoZ] vs. Mr. Popo
Kuririn [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]
Yamcha [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Old]

Raditz vs. Dende

Good one. Not really sure how they compare. We know Weighted Goku surpassed his previous level, but Popo was already well above that. I'd just say they were equals. Popo would probably win with the swift movements.

Krillin wins. Piccolo had to use some of his true power to end the battle.

Yamcha wins. He put up a good effort against Shen Kami.

[apex_pretador]

Tenshinhan [BoZ] vs. Mr. Popo
Kuririn [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]
Yamcha [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Old]

Raditz vs. Dende

Tien has a slight power advantage, but when it comes to battles, he hasn't shown strategic mind. Mr popo , on the other hand, has trained with god for centuries. He has perfected the art of suppressing and releasing power in bursts to save stamina.
Popo wins.

Krillin wins. Same as I posted on last page, but with a slight power advantage:

Krillin is dead even with the demon king. However, he has a huge disadvantage in form of lack of flight. He can make up for it by using KHH's but it will only tire him out. After a really long and tiresome battle, piccolo starts getting advantage, but then krillin uses the ace in hole - and attacks him with the chasing attack, while also talking him in a challenging way to force him take this. The chasing attack connects with the cocky demon, rendering his left arm useless. He regenerates (assuming he can), but that covers up for all the stamina loss of krillin, who puts all his strength in one punch and jumps straight through piccolo's body, while propelling himself using a KHH from other hand.
Krillin wins.

oh, wait, he can also fly, I forgot.
Krillin with medium difficulty at best.

Yamcha probably slacked off but not to the point where he can't rip apart old demon king with his bare hands, even counting his bad luck. There is no way he can lose.

Raditz wins because he can fight. Raditz >>>>>> BoDB goku >> M spopovich > Videl > Satan > Dende

[apex_pretador]

Krillin and Yamcha vs Tien (BoZ)

[Lord Beerus]

Krillin and Yamcha vs Tien (BoZ)

Hmm. This is a tough one. My heart is telling me that Krillin and Yamcha might be able to pull it off, but my brain is telling me that the gap in strength is a bit too much to overcome.

I'm so torn. But I gotta go with my brain and back Tien for this one, but it's a hell of a fight.

[VegetaSSJBlue]

Mr. Satan vs. Goku [Minus]
Jaco vs. Yajirobe [Saiyan Arc]
Bardock vs Piccolo [Saiyan Arc]

[Khin]

Mr. Satan vs. Goku [Minus]
Jaco vs. Yajirobe [Saiyan Arc]
Bardock vs Piccolo [Saiyan Arc]

— Goku is just a kid,what the hell can he do ? Unless Goku turns into an Oozaru,it's a stalemate.I doubt Satan would hurt a child let alone kill him.
— DB Minus Jaco gets stomped by Yajirobe really hard.RoF Jaco on the other hand crushes Yajirobe.
— Both versions of Bardock [Anime Special and Minus] one shots Piccolo.

[DanielSSJ]

Mr. Satan vs. Goku [Minus]
Jaco vs. Yajirobe [Saiyan Arc]
Bardock vs Piccolo [Saiyan Arc]

- Goku might be stronger, but he has no experience and his body isn't suited for battle. Mr. Satan is a trained, if ordinary, martial artist. My gut says Satan wins.
- I generally peg Jaco as being about as strong as 18-year-old Goku, at around 400 or so. Yajirobe is much stronger and probably has more combat experience. He wins.
- Assuming this is Minus Bardock, the two are pretty much even. Piccolo might be able to win through superior skills, unique abilities, and his Makankosappo.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

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Videl was saying it's crazy how strong those guys were at the punching bag, like "they could lift cars". She thinks that's a crazy feet. She can't do that. Yet Yamcha fought well vs a hungry Goku and even beat him, a hungry goku (earlier in the series) lifted up a car, fully loaded and threw it with bulma in it, then survived a gunshot, which videl also cant do.

Yamcha>>>>>>>>>videl, even biggining of dragonball.

I say piccolo wins with ease. I put him above Dabura with ease.
I give Gohan the win.
nappa was even with goku even damaged, I say nappa's full power is like 12,000
Piccolonail >kamiccolo there, as it's just nail vs kami at that point.

Yamcha faints after seeing her. I'm sure that counts as a win

lol, nappa was shitless scared of 8000+ goku. He was not damaged by humans (he cant be 12000 if he was damaged by humans less than 2000)
Goku cant be 8500 because KK x2 goku was below 17000.
Kamiccolo isn't always a 2x increase in power level. If he was then do you put pre-split kamiccolo at 644 ? (Because Kami is less than 322)

Kamiccolo would be at 7,000. Enough to kill Nappa if he doesn't fuck around.

Where will you put Daimao arc kamiccolo or pre-split kamiccolo? 520? 644? 580?

nAPPA WASN'T AT FULL POWER, OF COURSE HE'D BE DAMAGED, ALSo every1 was above 2k. even yamcha. srry for caps there.

nappa was clearly covered in battle damage from the z fighters b4 he fought goku, and when he calmed down and fought at 100% with a clear mind he was EVEN with goku and goku had to use the kaioken.

goku=damaged nappa<full powered nappa<vegeta

I didn't say goku was at 8,500 did I?

you cant scale kami's power accept below 1200, but power levels are kind of BS. roshi could destroy the moon when tired with 1 hit, but apparently is less then 100x the strength of a fat out o shape farmer?!! No. That's illogical. do you know how much stronger then a human, even a fit one you'd have to be in order to destroy the moon?! power levels are bannanas.

[DBZAOTA482]

Tenshinhan [BoZ] vs. Mr. Popo
Kuririn [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]
Yamcha [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Old]

Raditz vs. Dende

-Tien still gets stomped
-Krillin after an extreme battle
-Yamcha at the 23rd Budokai should be well above this Piccolo and I don't think BoZ Yamcha is that much weaker

Raditz flicks Dende away

Mr. Satan vs. Goku [Minus]
Jaco vs. Yajirobe [Saiyan Arc]
Bardock vs Piccolo [Saiyan Arc]

-Grandpa Gohan's words suggests any well-trained martial artist can subdue this Goku so Mr. Satan takes this
-Yajirobe stomps
-Poor, poor Piccolo

[Kuririn Fan]

Kuririn and Yamcha vs Tenshinhan (BoZ)

What's a BoZ?

[Analytic]

Kuririn and Yamcha vs Tenshinhan (BoZ)

What's a BoZ?

Beginning of Z.

[Kuririn Fan]

Kuririn and Yamcha vs Tenshinhan (BoZ)

What's a BoZ?

Beginning of Z.

Aah ok, i was thinking Battle of Z, for some reason.
Kuririn and Yamcha win, i don't see the dilemma here.

[apex_pretador]

- GT Piccolo vs U6 arc Piccolo

- Namekian merging of above 2 piccolos vs SS Gogeta (M 12), no time limit

[Bullza]

King Cold vs Kibito

[DanielSSJ]

King Cold vs Kibito

King Cold has a slight power advantage in my eyes, and he's probably a more competent fighter. King Cold wins.

[Khin]

King Cold vs Kibito

I personally don't think the Base Saiyans reached the 100 Million barrier except for fusions and BoG Goku and Vegeta which i have King Cold at.Going by Daizenshuu,Kibito can give Base Gohan [25th TB] a good fight.So Cold crushes Kibito.

[RandomGuy96]

King Cold vs Kibito

"a high enough battle power to give Gohan a good fight, as long as he doesn't use Super Saiyan" (Daizenshuu 7)

vs

"Cold is somewhat inferior to Freeza" (Daizenshuu 7) ----> "you [base Goku] absolutely cannot beat Freeza as you are" (BOG/Super)

I think King Cold wins, handily. In numbers, I have King Cold twice as strong, 50m vs 100m. Though, if I were Freeza, I'd rather have Kibito backing me in a fight against Goku. Dat healing ability.