Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by Puto » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:47 am

Bad news, guys: João Loy, the Portuguese voice of Vegeta and Piccolo, has had a heart attack last Friday and is currently in the ICU in the hospital. Hope he recovers...
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by Bansho64 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:49 am

Puto wrote:Bad news, guys: João Loy, the Portuguese voice of Vegeta and Piccolo, has had a heart attack last Friday and is currently in the ICU in the hospital. Hope he recovers...
Wait what!? Oh man, I hope the guy gets better.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by sangofe » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:59 am

Bansho64 wrote:
Puto wrote:Bad news, guys: João Loy, the Portuguese voice of Vegeta and Piccolo, has had a heart attack last Friday and is currently in the ICU in the hospital. Hope he recovers...
Wait what!? Oh man, I hope the guy gets better.
I hope he does recover but I'm not gonna lie; I do hope the role of Vegeta gets recasted...

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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by omegalucas » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:09 am

According to posts on Facebook he seems to be recovering well. Thankfully.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by sangofe » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:06 am

omegalucas wrote:According to posts on Facebook he seems to be recovering well. Thankfully.
Did they halt dubbing to wait for him to recover?

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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by HikariHakai » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:21 pm

He was around episode 15 before going to the studio for the last time. Maybe they have a few more ready, so maybe enough for 2 to 3 weeks rest.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by omegalucas » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:18 am

Loy is out of the hospital since yesterday and seems to be fine.
Not sure if he will need to have a period of rest before returning to the dub or not.

As for episode 11, which aired today: pure perfection.
No jokes (aside from a little reference to GT) and a really good performance by everyone. Shout out to Feist's Goku, Spínola's Beerus and Loy's Piccolo.
They only mistranslated the episode title. They used "Beerus... The True Battle of Gods Begins Now!" instead of something closer to "Let’s Keep Going Beerus-sama! The Battle of Gods Continues!".
The NEP had a correct translation for episode 12's title.

The little reference to GT I mentioned is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCu7IO3irIo
Basically Beerus humming DAN DAN Kokoro Hikareteku's first two lines.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by sangofe » Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:15 pm

omegalucas wrote:Loy is out of the hospital since yesterday and seems to be fine.
Not sure if he will need to have a period of rest before returning to the dub or not.

As for episode 11, which aired today: pure perfection.
No jokes (aside from a little reference to GT) and a really good performance by everyone. Shout out to Feist's Goku, Spínola's Beerus and Loy's Piccolo.
They only mistranslated the episode title. They used "Beerus... The True Battle of Gods Begins Now!" instead of something closer to "Let’s Keep Going Beerus-sama! The Battle of Gods Continues!".
The NEP had a correct translation for episode 12's title.

The little reference to GT I mentioned is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCu7IO3irIo
Basically Beerus humming DAN DAN Kokoro Hikareteku's first two lines.
I dunno if I'd call it pure perfection but from what I watched in episode 10, I have to say I like your Goku. I like the voice, and he at least tries screaming more seriously than in DBZ. I like that he's got a somehow "lighthearted" voice. I don't know how to say it differently, but it's not so serious and dark as many dub goku's voices are. Although it's nowhere near of Caspar's Danish Goku voice.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:50 pm

There's a video of Bulma voice actor visiting Loy (Vegeta) after he recovered. Kinda heartwarming.
He's still the black sheep from the cast though, unless he changes his behaviour which I doubt.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by omegalucas » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:51 am

Kor wrote:The exact same cuts were made in the Hebrew dub as well in ep 3 and ep 4. Dunno if it's just a coincidence, though.
In ep 12 the elder Kaioshin's pervy antics were also removed in our dub, so be on the watch for that I guess.
It was just a coincidence. Episode 12 aired today and Elder Kaioshin's antics were there (a bit toned down in dialogue, but clearly still there, with no video censoring).
They actually made a joke about a (horrible) singer when he handed Kaioshin the porn magazine. "That's Maria Leal. Hot...". I'll give them that one, it was funny xD
Other than that, another fine episode. A couple translation mistakes (they didn't say "two-and-a-half more clashes" and the universe is gone, just "two clashes" and they worded the Elder Kaioshin's rant about the Dragon Balls in a weird way).
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:50 pm

BOG arc ended today.
Decent job overall. The translation is not perfect, but does the job.

Didn't like:

- Hiper Guerreiro (SSJ2) Mega Guerreiro (SSJ3) still being a thing in 2016. They should just call them Super Guerreiro 2 and Super Guerreiro 3, just like we call Super Guerreiro 4 to SSJ4;
- João Loy's Vegeta (most of the time). Ricardo Spinola should just replace him, but unfortunately he is not a machine and he's too busy kicking ass as Beerus.
- Rui de Sá's Kaio. Just terrible. Between him and sick Yanami in Super, may the Devil come and choose the worst one.
- The amount of stupid jokes in some episodes. I have to admit the Maria Leal joke was not only funny and not forced, but also perfectly well placed though. I will give them that one. :lol:

Shot out to our brilliants Whis and Beerus, because they turnt out to be more perfect than I ever hoped for. Props to the newcomer Romeu Vala and the best of them all, Ricardo Spínola.
I was also gladly surprised by how "Kaioshin", "Namekians" and "Gotenks" names appeared in our dub. That's a progress, I guess.

As for the whole production of Audio-In, it's the first time I see an anime dubbed by this studio and I just feel like some of the staff are just a bunch of amateurs.

- Sometimes bad sound editing. Not only the opening, the eyecatch with the vocal was so badly done sometimes too. I don't mind the vocal in there, just do it properly.
- They couldn't bother to use japanese creditless Opening, Title Screen and Ending.
- Some episodes titles written wrong.

Definitely not the best first impression.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by alakazam^ » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:41 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:- They couldn't bother to use japanese creditless Opening, Title Screen and Ending.
Why should they? They wouldn't translate any of that anyway.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:07 pm

alakazam^ wrote: Why should they? They wouldn't translate any of that anyway.
It's not a matter of translation, but better presentation. The ending and title screen look a mess with the portuguese characters mixed with japanese characters.
A creditless Opening woud also look better. It's not like much people from the casual fanbase know japanese anyway.

So I would go with creditless Opening, portuguese title screen, and only portuguese credits in the Ending.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by alakazam^ » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:48 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:It's not a matter of translation, but better presentation. The ending and title screen look a mess with the portuguese characters mixed with japanese characters.
A creditless Opening woud also look better. It's not like much people from the casual fanbase know japanese anyway.

So I would go with creditless Opening, portuguese title screen, and only portuguese credits in the Ending.
I see. I prefer the openings and endings as-is so we know they use the correct ones and are not lazy like some fansubs that just copy-paste them. They also look better this way, being creditless would make them feel empty. I don't really pay much attention to the Portuguese credits but they could be a bit smaller.

Ivan Capela, the owner of Audio In, has said, off the record, that he's not happy with Loy's performance as well. His opinion is "demasiadas patetices (too much goofyness)" and he compared him to Herman José (a famous comedian) in that he's not as good as he once was and is trying hard to replicate what he was in the past but fails. Although, he did say that Loy, even before the stroke, had already calmed down. Loy has recorded 18 episodes.

Overall, they have 26 episodes and will receive 27~52 in December.

Ivan Capela was shown Nozawa's Goku and was shocked because he had never heard her before :lol:

Also, Super's scripts come in English.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by omegalucas » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:12 pm

alakazam^ wrote:Ivan Capela, the owner of Audio In, has said, off the record, that he's not happy with Loy's performance as well. His opinion is "demasiadas patetices (too much goofyness)" and he compared him to Herman José (a famous comedian) in that he's not as good as he once was and is trying hard to replicate what he was in the past but fails. Although, he did say that Loy, even before the stroke, had already calmed down. Loy has recorded 18 episodes.

Overall, they have 26 episodes and will receive 27~52 in December.

Ivan Capela was shown Nozawa's Goku and was shocked because he had never heard her before :lol:

Also, Super's scripts come in English.
Those are great news! Hopefully Loy won't go back to the overexagerated jokes.
Just a correction though, I believe what Loy had was an acute myocardial infarction (or, in non-medical terms, an heart attack). Stroke is a brain attack (AVC in Portuguese), although it can happen through a brain infarction (infarction was the term used in the news report on Loy, and is more commonly used when referring to the heart).
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:49 pm

Early to say, but looks like Loy's Vegeta turned over a new leaf?! :eh:
In episode 16 where Vegeta acts like a clown to please Whis, Loy's stupid jokes could fit but he remained in character until the very end. Even when Vegeta was out of breath, Loy's wasn't strident as before. By far his best perfomance in Super. If he keeps this up, we may have a great Vegeta again.

Episode 15 was the real test to Sandra's Chichi, because i's the first one where she gets angry to Goku. 10/10 She passes.

Looks like we got Quimbé in the family. I love his Metabee, Joey Wheeler, Pegasus and Kakashi performances. I'm glad with this choice.
Mário Bomba may pop up sooner of later too.
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Post by alakazam^ » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:03 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Looks like we got Quimbé in the family.
Who did he play?

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:38 pm

alakazam^ wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:Looks like we got Quimbé in the family.
Who did he play?
These guys from episode 15:
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by omegalucas » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:10 pm

Episode 15 was interesting for me because it was the first time in a while that new characters appeared and I was curious as to how would they do their names. Both Galbi and Sna(c)k were used. Nice Kanzenshuu-approved names (the scripts Toei sent seem to be nice, naming wise... except for Bills of course). I must say I am pleased. I wonder how they'll do Sadal and Potaufeau later on. That and attacks like Galic Ho and Final Flash.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

Post by sangofe » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:36 am

omegalucas wrote:Episode 15 was interesting for me because it was the first time in a while that new characters appeared and I was curious as to how would they do their names. Both Galbi and Sna(c)k were used. Nice Kanzenshuu-approved names (the scripts Toei sent seem to be nice, naming wise... except for Bills of course). I must say I am pleased. I wonder how they'll do Sadal and Potaufeau later on. That and attacks like Galic Ho and Final Flash.
If the scripts say bills, and the French battle of Gods and resurrection f dubs have, I wonder what name they'll keep for the French tv dub...

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