The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[TenshinFan]

I think it was established Popo is stronger than Kami and I don't see how Kami would not be as strong as Dende

Kami >> Popo was established.

Really? I have Popo at 1030 and Kami at 220 right at the beginning of Z.

[DanielSSJ]

I think it was established Popo is stronger than Kami and I don't see how Kami would not be as strong as Dende

Kami >> Popo was established.

Really? I have Popo at 1030 and Kami at 220 right at the beginning of Z.

A lot of people disregard the pre-Z power levels, due to some inconsistencies with power statements during that point in the series. I only accept the 220/1,030 numbers in the context that it's during the Saiyan Battle, after Mr. Popo had trained the earthlings, and after Kami spent six years of getting older and probably not really doing anything strenuous.

[DBZAOTA482]

Which Dragon Ball characters can Bruce Lee beat on an equal level?

[RandomGuy96]

Which Dragon Ball characters can Bruce Lee beat on an equal level?

Bulma. Turtle. Maybe Oolong?

[Kaboom]

Boy howdy, another super long catch-up post. At least roughly half of the matches involved Super and were ripe for ignoring...

Base F. Trunks from movie 9 vs Kid Trunks Pre-RoSat?

Future Trunks is a tiny bit stronger but also a lot more experienced and skilled. He beats his younger counterpart rather easily.

RoF base gohan Gauntlet (Healed after every match / no zenkai)

If Gohan's been relegated to his weak pre-Ultimate self from the Majin Boo arc, then without Super Saiyan he doesn't beat anyone on the list. But if he's still supposed to be quasi-Ultimate, albeit weakened and needing Super Saiyan to access more of his unlocked potential... then he totally and easily clears the list. I'm sure he'd at least still be on a Super Saiyan 2 level or so even in just his "base" form.

M-13 goku SS3 vs SS kid goku GT. If unfair, add mystic gohan to weaker side
Hit vs guldo and Tao Pai Pai - all three have equal power levels
SS4 gotenks (buu arc) VS SS vegetto
SS4 vegetto (BoG) vs SSG goku. If unfair, change it to M13 vegetto
Fat Janemba , Fat buu , SS (pre) gotenks vs kid buu (not srs)
Super Janemba (no sword), Super buu , SS gotenks (post) vs kid buu (100% SRS) and mystic gohan
Super vegeta, Super Trunks, around half goku VS cell jr

— GT. Pass.
— I could see Gurd being bewildered by Hit's time-skip ability and not knowing how to deal with it until it's too late. But his own time-freeze ability is probably even more broken, so this could go either way. Tao Pai Pai would only matter if Gurd could somehow exclude him from the time-freeze, which as far as we know he can't.
— Assuming that SS4's power is based somehow on dormant power, I don't really know how it would affect Gotenks. But if it's anywhere near as beneficial for him as it was for Goku in GT, then I'm thinking Vegetto gets surpassed here. Whether he would actually lose is another question though.
— I know Vegetto is generally outclassed by the god-level characters, but I sincerely doubt that would still be true with something as broken as Super Saiyan 4. Especially not if Freeza after some training and random schlubs in the U6 Tournament arc are able to contend with god-level characters.
— Boo can play with all three of these guys at once, but he's going to have to get at least a bit "srs" if he wants to actually finish them off and win.
— Janemba takes out Pure Boo rather quickly and then takes his time picking apart Gohan. Evil Boo doesn't even have to participate. Gotenks may get killed off by either enemy before Janemba can do anything, if he would even care.
— The combination of these three is enough to beat a single Cell Junior. Maybe not more than one, though.

SS Goku (GT) vs Super Boo

Normal Logic: With 15 years of casual training, the last 5 of which with a good sparring partner, Goku may have improved to the point where with Super Saiyan 3 he's a match for Evil Boo. But not with only Super Saiyan 1.
GT Logic: Super Saiyan actually serves to hold back the almighty and insurmountable strength of base GT Kid Goku, so that he can actually have a tiny bit of fun pummeling Evil Boo into the ground.

KKx10 Goku (On Namek Post Zenkai) vs Base Goten and Trunks (Before RoSAT)

The Kaio-Ken x10 makes Goku roughly twice as strong as Goten and Trunks, and he's able to methodically and skillfully pick them both apart at once.

Base Future Trunks (Before Gohan's death) vs Nail

My somewhat arbitrary level for base Trunks in that part is 50,000. Which is comfortably above Nail's 42,000, but I'm betting Nail is a much more proficient fighter with better natural abilities, and not to mention more experienced. He'll probably end up winning.

Buff Buu runs a gauntlet! He gets healed with every battle, and he's not allowed to absorb whom he is going to fight next. In this case, it's Gotenks that can't be absorbed.

My gut tells me that Buff Boo wins the first two fights against Gotenks and Piccolo-Boo, but Ultimate Gohan would still be a match for him power-wise. But given Gohan's propensity towards failure, Buff Boo may end up winning anyway, especially if he absorbs Gohan. If he does, then he can beat Gotenks-Boo as well, but not if he beats Gohan normally without absorption.

Jaco [DB Minus and ROF Arc] runs the gaunlet individually.He gets healed after each fight.

Presumably the average Saiyan was too strong for Jaco to fight directly back in the day. But if Raditz is an example of average, then Goku was considerably below average. So Jaco would probably be able to beat him all the way up to the 23rd Budokai or the beginning of Z, at which point Goku's exceptional Earth-trained ki amplification skills would probably turn the tables.

Jaco seems somewhat stronger in Resurrection F though, being able to fight plenty of Freeza soldiers both tactically and directly. So odds are he's packing a higher power level after 30 years, and could probably beat Raditz and clear the list now.

SSJ3 Gotenks And Piccolo VS Gohan (mystic) and Dabura
Meta Cooler (All 10 billion) vs Buuhan
Tien and Chiatzu, Gohan vs Dr Gero

— Gohan can easily beat Gotenks, and Dabra can easily beat Piccolo. Shutout win for team 2.
— Gohan-Boo has no problem beating all the Metal Coolas. He's got the power to nuke them all at once, and the magical stamina to take his time beating them one-on-one if he pleases. Doesn't make a difference in the end.
— All from the Android arc, I assume? They've got no chance. Gohan's not a Super Saiyan yet and thus doesn't have nearly enough power to fight Gero directly, Tenshinhan's Shin Kikoho will only push Gero around at best, and Chaozu can't do squat.

21st TB Roshi using his full power form [no stress and can fight like in the RoF arc] runs the gauntlet.

I think he'd probably give King Piccolo a half-decent fight. Can't see him getting any farther than that.

Hypothetical SS3 Bardock vs Kaioken Namek Goku (Post Ginyu Zenkai)

Anime Bardock ends up with a power level of about 4 million. Goku can beat him with a regular Kaio-Ken (which grants him bursts of 6 million), but he could also fight defensively without it for long enough to let Bardock's Super Saiyan 3 drain away. Bardock from Minus is considerably weaker and probably couldn't even fight regular, sans-Kaio-Ken Goku.

RADITZ vs Tien , Krillin , Yamcha , Popo , Kami , Yajirobe , Cyborg Tao , Roshi , Chiaotzu , King Chappa , Nam , Giran , Tsuresenin (No kikoho , No paralysis , NO tail , No sword)
Perfect cell vs buu arc Piccolo , kid goten , kid trunks , base gotenks (pre)
Majin vegeta vs 120 freezas (no planet busting)
Saiyans and Namekians vs first form freeza (no planet busting, no merging, no Zenkai)

— The Earth crew's only chance would have been Tenshinhan's Kikoho. Oh well.
— Base Gotenks is inconsequential. Piccolo and the Super Saiyan kids are all roughly the same power in my book, and they could only beat Perfect Cell's limited level against Vegeta and Trunks. The next strongest level Cell used was against Goku, which is too far above any of them.
— I think Vegeta's got the odds in his favor, but he may be worn down over time.
— What do you mean "Saiyans and Namekians?" If you mean both races as a whole as we've seen them, then the only way they can win is if a bunch or all of the Saiyans go Oozaru.

Weighted 23rd TB Goku vs God.

If Goku needed to take the weights off to effectively beat Tenshinhan, then the same probably holds true for Kami too.

First Form Freeza (Namek) vs Tenshinhan (Boo arc)
22nd Budokai Goku and Kuririn vs Spopovich and Yamu

— Tenshinhan's only hope is to land a Kikoho. In a direct fight, Freeza is several times stronger and easily murders him.
— Even if Kuririn and Goku have the strength advantage (they probably don't), they wouldn't be able to overcome Spopovich and Yamu's freaky zombie-like resiliency.

SS Goku (Cell Games) vs Kibito

Kibito is only strong enough to give Boo-arc base Gohan trouble. Super Saiyan Goku could beat him easily even back when he first transformed on Namek.

Cell Games
<Snip>
What happens in round 2/3?

If Cell's not allowed to go up to his full power, then Gohan or maybe even Goku wears him down and beats him. If he can use his full power... then he beats both of them regardless of what else happens. Either one of them would need Super Saiyan 2 to contend with that much power.

Old Kaioshin [No magic] vs Pan [EoZ]

We're mostly in the dark about how strong either of them are, but I'm going to say Pan wins just for the hilarity of picturing it.

Kid krillin runs a gauntlet (22nd TB Krillin, healed after every round)
I believe that he stops at tsuresenin

I believe you're right. My gut tells me that Kuririn isn't quite a match for either the Turtle or Crane Hermits yet. Only Goku and Tenshinhan are.

Vegeta,Gohan,Kuririn [Against Recoome],Monster Zarbon and Nail vs. Recoome and Burta

Recoome and Butta can be defeated here, but Nail will end up doing most of the work. It'd require some careful grouping and pairing too.

Kid Buu vs Base Gotenks (Post) | Kid Buu vs SSJ Gotenks (Pre) | Kid Buu vs SSJ Gotenks (Post) | Kid Buu vs SSJ3 Gotenks

The final fight is the only one that Gotenks wins, by a sheer huge power advantage. His SS2 form would be roughly equal in power with Pure Boo, but anything lower than that gets its butt kicked. If the fight's rules are turned off, then Boo would probably blow up the planet as soon as he finds himself outclassed by SS3 Gotenks.

On a side note; is SSJ2 Gotenks a thing? I've never really been sure about that XD

Yep, SS2 Gotenks is a thing. The guidebooks say he's capable of the form, and while he never uses it to fight we DO see two small panels showing him in the form while on his way up to Super Saiyan 3.

Kid Boo vs Grey Boo

Until something proves otherwise, I'll keep assuming that Pure Evil Boo really was just 2/3rds or so as strong as the original Fat Boo. Suffice to say he's no match at all for his original Pure counterpart.

- Gohan vs super buu (Majin vegeta and kid gohan absorbed) , No candy beam , no absorbing
- Beerus 100% vs krillin (Beerus can't move / dodge, flare his ki / aura, or can't shoot energy blasts, Krillin throws keinzans till he gets tired)
- SS2 kid gohan vs 75 #16 (no bomb)
- Super Janembuuhan (buuhan + super Janemba) vs SS Vegetto (No hands)
- Freeza (Namek) vs Frost (U6 arc) [equal power levels , no stamina issue]
- SSG Gogeta VS Beerus

— These two absorptions aren't quite enough for Boo to match Gohan's power, so Gohan would probably still win unless he effs it up somehow.
— Hard to say... dumb filler aside, we've yet to see the Kienzan fail to cut anything or anyone it's hit...
— Gohan can eliminate the entire army of Sixteens with a single "explosive wave" attack.
— Absorbing Janemba would nearly double Boo's power, but Super Vegetto is still MUCH stronger than that. He can still fend off Boo with just his feet until he feels like finishing things.
— Super. Pass.
— Super, and we also have no indication of how godly ki would mix with Fusion. Pass again.

17 and 18(no fusion, just fight together) vs 16 ?
Kid Gohan SSJ2 vs Vegeta just before Majin?
Krillin vs Chaos (with no ridiculous math test) 22 Tenkaichi Budokai?
Krillin (after Elder Guru upgrade) vs First Vegeta ?
Yajirobe vs Tambourine?

— I think Sixteen's got the twins a little too outclassed in power, and their infinite stamina isn't going to help them against another Android with the same perk.
— If Gohan fights seriously, he can still win. I think the odds are possibly a bit in Vegeta's favor, though. Even if he's slightly outclassed in power, he's more durable and tenacious, and generally the more skilled fighter.
— Who knows? Kuririn may have found some other way to overcome Chaozu's telekinesis, or maybe Chaozu would have slipped up on his own eventually.
— Officially, Kuririn was only at 13,000 when he and Gohan fought Recoome, so he couldn't beat Vegeta yet at that point. But he was able to contend with Ginyu-Goku's 23,000 a while later, so maybe he could beat Vegeta then.
— Tambourine is supposed to be way stronger than Cymbal, whom Yajirobe had some trouble defeating. But Yajirobe was strong enough to tango with and impress Goku, and he's got some pretty potent resilience... Could go either way. I'd say the odds are in Yajirobe's favor.

23 Tk Bdk Tien vs Namek Vegeta (just after learning to find Ki). Same power for both;
Goku (boo saga) vs Perfect Cell. Same power for both.
Namek Freeza vs Fat Boo. Same power again.
Paikuhan (at boo saga) vs Piccolo (now). Same power.

— It's a tough call... Vegeta's pretty resilient, but his ki-sensing is pretty rough at this point, and Tenshinhan's Earth-trained skills would be hard to deal with. I'm going to say Vegeta edges out a win unless Ten gets lucky with a Kikoho.
— Goku was already able to give Cell one helluva fight even at a power disadvantage. When they're on equal footing in power, I think Goku has the edge.
— Even at equal powers, I can't see Freeza winning here. Boo just has too many extra abilities at his disposal.
— My gut says Piccolo. I don't know why, but it does. We don't know how long Paikuhan's been training in the afterlife, but Piccolo's packing centuries' worth of experience too.

SSJ3 Gotenks full focused (100x kamikaze ghosts) vs Mystic Gohan?

The Kamikaze Ghosts are EXTREMELY potent. It would only take one or two direct hits from them to cripple Gohan and put him out of commission, and there's no way he's going to avoid a hundred of them.

Android Arc SS Goku (Recovered From Heart Virus) vs Future 17 and 18

Goku might be able to beat one of the weaker future Android twins if he fights well enough, but definitely not both at once.

Angry Saiyan Arc Gohan (After Piccolo's Death) vs Jaco

The probably-stronger Jaco from Resurrection F could probably withstand Gohan's fleeting power outburst and then counterattack to win, but the original weak Jaco from his own story set 30+ years ago definitely can't.

Piccolo [Buu Arc] vs. FPSS Goku [Cell Games]
Gohan [Post Dende Heal] vs. First Form Freeza
Videl [Post Ki Training] vs. Yamcha [BODB]
Hypothetical Kamiccolo [Saiyan Arc] vs. Nappa
Hypothetical Kamiccolo [Arrival on Namek] vs. Piccolo [Merged with Nail]

— Piccolo's gotten only moderately stronger in those 7 years and can't quite measure up to Goku or Gohan from the Cell Games yet. Vegeta or Trunks would be a different story.
— I think Gohan only maxed out around 300-350 thousand, so barring any more rage boosts he couldn't take Freeza in a straightforward one-on-one fight.
— While I think Videl's ki-use training increased her PL somewhat, since all she does with it is fly I'm not sure if she has the raw strength to contend with Yamcha. But based on how she did against Spopovich, that may be underestimating her a bit. Not to mention that this Yamcha would be paralyzed at the sight of such a pretty teenage girl.
— The son of Katatz expelling his evil presumably cut his power in half, and re-merging would presumably only re-double it (which kind of fits with the strength Piccolo gained in the Androids arc). But Piccolo's PL of 3,500 doubling to 7,000 would be more than enough to beat Nappa's 4,000-ish if he fought seriously.
— We don't have a PL for Piccolo before his merge with Nail, but I'm thinking that two Warrior-types merging granted a MUCH more drastic power increase than the mere doubling that results from Piccolo and Kami re-merging. So "Nailcolo" wins this one for sure.

[*]Kid goku (pre-roshi training, with nyo-bo) VS M spopovich
[*]M10 LSS Broly (after seeing moon ball, NO GT) vs mystic gohan (No tail cutting)
[*]SS4 broly (M10) vs Mystic gohan
[*]SS4 broly M10 vs SS Vegetto
[*]SS4 gogeta (Android arc) vs Mystic gohan and SS3 gotenks (Everyone has unlimited fusion and no stamina drain)
[*]SS4 Vegetto (Saiyan arc) VS SS3 goku (BoG)
[*]SS3 gogeta (Saiyan arc, no drain) VS SS Gotenks (post rosat)

— Even if Goku's got the raw power level and strength to contend with Spopovich (which I doubt he does), just like Videl he wouldn't be able to get past that freaky zombie-like tenacity.
— Well Broli doesn't have a tail so the Power Ball wouldn't do much... but if he did have one and did go Oozaru... the 10x boost he gets still doesn't quite let him measure up to Gohan. Gohan would have to be even more incompetent than usual to not exploit the Oozaru tail weakness and finish this fight quickly.
— Super Saiyan 4 is mostly based on dormant power, but is supposed to be more powerful than Gold Oozaru at least. Broli would prooobably be a match for Gohan here.
— No way he's a match for Super Vegetto, though.
— Fusion is already pretty broken, but adding SS4 to the mix just makes things unfair. My gut tells me SS4 Gogeta here ends up strong enough to take Gohan and Gotenks both at once.
— Going all the way back to the Saiyan arc is a bit too much in the opposite direction, though. The ingredients (Saiyan arc Goku and Vegeta) are too weak for Fusion and SS4 to make up for.
— Ditto. If this were the Namek or Androids arc, things would be different.

Arale vs Whis ?

Depends on whether or not Arale decides to tap into her toonforce power and use her Super Robot Blue form.

1 Vs 2: Bora vs Spopovich and Yamu

Bora probably has the raw strength to put them both down... but whether or not they'll stay down is another question.

Cell Arc Kuririn vs Pocus

My power placement of Pui-Pui goes back and forth a lot... but lately I consider him around as strong as Oozaru Vegeta (180k). Meanwhile my estimate of Kuririn is about 150,000, so as long as Kuririn fights smart and makes use of his good techniques, he can probably win.

Imperfect Cell vs Donald Trump.

Remember what happened to that rich guy in Ginger Town? Yeah. That.

Tenshinhan [23rd TB] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]

Officially, the numbers say that Tenshinhan (250) hadn't quite caught up to King Piccolo (260) even during Raditz's appearance 5 years after the 23rd tournament. Buuuuuuuut those early-series numbers had a lot of wiggle room in the way of crazy amplification and stuff. So maybe Tenshinhan's "base" power level is still somewhat weaker than Piccolo's, but he's able to amp himself up to a higher level than Piccolo could, or something like that.

Based on what the story says during the 23rd tournament, I'd bet such a thing is the case, and this Ten can probably edge out a difficult win against King Piccolo. Strategically setting up and landing a Kikoho would be a good way to do it.

Yamcha [23rd TB] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]
Kuririn [23rd TB] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]

These guys, however, aren't up to the task yet. They're still significantly weaker than Tenshinhan, and neither of them have big finishing moves like the Kikoho.

Tenshinhan [BoZ] vs. Mr. Popo
Kuririn [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]
Yamcha [BoZ] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Old]
Raditz vs. Dende

— This is a tricky one. Based on what I've said above, if Ten was barely capable of beating King Piccolo, then he probably can't beat Mr. Popo. If nothing else, Popo would have a big edge on him in technique like he did with Goku.
— See my previous answer. Kuririn's not a match for the Demon King yet.
— Same, although my gut tells me Yamcha could probably at least put up a fight.
— I'm sure Dende's sporting a power level of at least a few thousand due to the Grand Elder's unlock... but he's utterly devoid of any fighting skills. So even with a possible multi-fold power advantage over Raditz there's no guarantee he'd win if they fought.

Krillin and Yamcha vs Tien (BoZ)

As long as they avoid the Kikoho, which they'd know to do, the two-eyes tag-team can probably win this.

Mr. Satan vs. Goku [Minus]
Jaco vs. Yajirobe [Saiyan Arc]
Bardock vs Piccolo [Saiyan Arc]

— However strong toddler Kakarrot's supposed to be, he was able to even rough up Grandpa Gohan a bit. Mr. Satan's got no chance.
— Hard to tell who's stronger or who's more skilled in combat... my gut tells me that Yajirobe's physical tenacity is enough to withstand whatever Jaco throws at him.
— Anime Bardock with his PL of nearly 10,000 completely wrecks Piccolo (PL 3,500) with minimal effort. The somewhat weaker Manga Bardock (around 4,500-5,000 by my guess) still wins, but has a much tougher time of it.

King Cold vs Kibito

King Cold is a decent chunk stronger in my book, and Kibito's not much of a fighter. So I'm betting Cold wins.

1) Super Saiyan God Goku vs Super Janemba
2) Super Saiyan Bardock vs Namek Saga Frieza (First Form, Second Form, Third Form, and Final Form)

1) Super's pretty vague and inconsistent about how strong its characters are supposed to be... but I'm preeeeetty sure SSG Goku was significantly stronger than Super Gogeta, and thus way stronger than Janemba. Easy win for the red-haired Saiyan God.
2) Bardock's PL of nearly 10,000 multiplied 50 times over by Super Saiyan gives him a power level of around 500,000... a match for Freeza's first form (530,000), but nothing more.

Garlic Jr, and his henchmen (Dead zone Movie) vs Raditz
Pikkon vs SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games)
Turles(Post-fruit) vs the Ginyu Force (No Guldo)

— If Garlic Junior is immortal, then he can probably outlast and wear down Raditz. If not, then I sincerely doubt it. Goku and Piccolo were able to fight against his bulky form without any kill moves or sacrifice tactics.
— If Paikuhan was able to take down Super Perfect Cell, then he can probably take out Gohan too.
— Since Goku was beaten by Tullece even with the Kaio-Ken x10, that puts Tullece at least around as strong as 1st-form Freeza. So without Gurd and his time-stop tricks, the Ginyu Force's only hope is for Ginyu himself to manage a body-swap. Otherwise Tullece picks them all apart with ease.

1) Semiperfect Cell vs Majin Yakon
2) Super Saiyan 3 Gohan (Majin Buu Saga) vs Mira (Base Form)

1) Since base Goku and Gohan working together could presumably have beaten Yakon, that probably puts him around 100% Freeza's strength level. Needless to say, Stage-2 Cell is quite far beyond that, and can slaughter Yakon easily.
2) I'm not sure how strong, game mechanics aside, Mira is supposed to be. But based on what others have said, he's somewhere between SS3 Goku and Evil Boo. If that's the case, he can easily take out SS3 Gohan here.

Nappa vs Cabba (Equal power levels)

— At equal power levels, it's going to come down to who's got more physical prowess. Nappa is an adult and built like a tank. Cabbe is a child and skinny as a twig. You do the math.

Jaco vs Kid Trunks?
Kid Goten (base) vs Kuririn?
Pual vs Oolong?
Kid Boo vs ROF Freeza Final Form (not golden)?
Dabura vs Tagoma?
Dai Kaio Sama vs Kid Gohan SSJ2?
Tamborine vs Shula?
Raditz vs Generic Namekian Warrior?

— Even the weakest version of "Kid" Trunks we've ever seen, the young Future Trunks sparring with Gohan, could still defeat Jaco with a nearly effortless finger-flick.
— In my book, even Kuririn the strongest Earthling would be lucky to ever reach a power of 1 million. The kids, meanwhile, are no doubt in the tens of millions considering how they compared to the adults. Kuririn's absolutely no match for Goten in a serious fight.
— Puer's better at shape-shifting than Oolong, so he could probably maintain his form as a working cannon or something long enough to win.
— Hard to tell who's got the power advantage, but it's probably Freeza. It wouldn't take him long to figure out how Boo needs to be finished off.
— Don't really care since it's Super, but I'm going to say Dabra, if only because of his extra magic tricks and such.
— We don't know how strong the Grand Kaio is supposed to be, but he did say he'd need some very LONG amount of time to catch up to Goku and Paikuhan, right? Based on that, I'd say Gohan could kick his ass.
— Hmmm... reading up on Shula, Goku hadn't undergone his training before the 22nd tournament yet, and presumably only after it was he strong enough to beat King Piccolo's spawn. Just based on that half-assed comparison, I'd say Tambourine wins.
— Even the young Namekian civilians, who I'm pretty sure weren't even actual Warrior-types, had power levels of around 3,000. That's double that of Raditz, whom any one of them could probably beat quite handily.

Pan (Z) vs Nappa and Raditz Tag Team

I don't think Pan's anywhere close to the level of her older family members, but I still usually like to give her some extra credit with a PL in the tens of thousands. Nappa and Raditz would be drastically and hilariously outclassed.

Babidi vs Chaos
Tambourine vs Shula (I'm Still waiting )
Dende vs Satan
Olibe vs Kuririn (from Cell games)
Yakkon vs Future Trunks (who defeated Freeza) (same conditions that Goku fought him)
Goku SSJB from U6 tournament + Mystic Gohan (potara fusion) vs Beerus at 100%
Ginyu + Reecom (potara fusion) vs Piccolo after absorb Nail
Kid Gohan vs Dai Kaio Sama (I'm still waiting )
Vegeta vs That Big Worm inside Majin Boo (fighting inside boo of course)

— Hard to tell. I'm sure Chaozu's the stronger one, but Bobbidi's magic would probably prevail over Chaozu's psychic tricks.
— Already kinda-sorta answered.
— Dende's already naturally more powerful than the average human just by virtue of being a Namekian, AND he got his dormant power unlocked. There's no flipping way he's only got a single-digit power level. Fighting prowess or no, he can take out Mr. Satan with a flick of his wrist.
— Olibu's been training in the afterlife for millennia and was able to give Paikuhan an impressive fight. Kuririn is easy pickings for him.
— If Trunks gets his Super Saiyan sucked away from him, he's screwed. He's not nearly strong enough in base to contend with Yakon.
— Super. Pass.
— Ginyu and Recoome wouldn't exactly be a great match for Fusion, but Potara is so potent that it'd probably make them a match for Piccolo anyway.
— Once again already answered!
— Man, I dunno. Screw filler.

Vegeta vs Lord Slug (Gauntlet style)
All the versions of Namek Saga Vegeta will run the following Gauntlet how far does each version get?

Let's see... Vegeta at his arrival (PL: 24,000) almost certainly succumbs to Slug's henchmen quartet, whom I think are the movie equivalents of the Ginyu Force. Suffice to say that Vegeta against the Ginyus (PL: 30,000) doesn't do much better. Vegeta against 1st-form Freeza (PL: 250,000) does much better, sweeping through the henchmen with ease but falling to young Slug, who I think is a little stronger than 1st-form Freeza. "Not quite Super Saiyan" Vegeta (PL: 2.3 million) clears the entire list, as Giant Slug in my book is around as strong as 2nd-form Freeza.

East Kaioshin vs. 1. Ssj Grade 3 Trunks (Big Hulk version), 2. Three Cell Jrs, 3. Ssj Goku at 50% during Cell Games.

1. Kaioshin has a sizable power advantage along with an obvious speed one. He beats Trunks rather easily.
2. Kaioshin could take one Cell Junior easily, and probably also two at once, but my gut says three is one too many.
3. It's just like Trunks or a single Cell Junior. Kaioshin wins easily.

Gohan (Saiyan arc) vs Pan (EOZ)

See my previous answer to Pan against Raditz and Nappa... her PL in the tens of thousands dwarfs Gohan's rough 1,000-3,000 range.

True Form Cooler vs King Cold
Android 20 vs Yakon
Piccolo (Android Saga, pre Kami fusion) vs Android 14
SSJ2 Majin Vegeta vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Super Perfect Cell
SSJ Trunks (Android Saga) vs SSJ Yardrat Goku
LSSJ Bio-Broly vs SSJ Future Trunks(Cell Games)

— Coola is probably a little stronger and definitely the better fighter. Papa Cold gets his ass handed to him.
— 20 starts off at a disadvantage, but can change that if he fights smart and absorbs some energy.
— 14 and 15's strength is a little hard to peg, but they seemed overall weaker than the Super Saiyans in that movie. If Trunks could beat one of them, Piccolo probably could too.
— Vegeta could beat either one of them alone, but not both at the same time.
— Trunks has improved moderately, but he's probably not all that much stronger than this Goku, who would still have the edge in battle from superior skill.
— Bio-Broli was stronger than Goten and Trunks, whom I think are roughly the same as, maybe just a tiny smidge weaker, than Vegeta and Trunks at the Cell Games. So this Trunks probably can't beat Bio-Broli on his own.

SS3 Goku [BoG] vs. Ultimate Gohan

Goku's improvements froma few years of normal, casual training on Earth and Kaio's wouldn't be huge. Certainly not enough to overtake Gohan. It'd also be essentially impossible for him to improve that much and still be weaker sans Super Saiyan than Freeza.

Android 18 runs the gauntlet: - Mecha Frieza - King Cold - SSJ Goku (pre-ROSAT) - Imperfect Cell

As long as that last match is Cell when we first met him in Ginger Town, then Eighteen clears the list without much trouble. If not, and it's the stronger Cell from when he interrupted Piccolo and Seventeen's fight... well, the result of that fight is obvious.

Which Dragon Ball characters can Bruce Lee beat on an equal level?

If the man beat Chuck Norris, then he can beat anyone.

[apex_pretador]

I think it was established Popo is stronger than Kami and I don't see how Kami would not be as strong as Dende

Kami >> Popo was established.

Really? I have Popo at 1030 and Kami at 220 right at the beginning of Z.

• When goku meets popo, he is implied to be strong enough to give popo trouble but he wasted his movements and popo was using his movements efficiently. He was also a bit stronger and faster than goku.
  Kami just finger-flicked goku away.
• Popo says he has gotten so strong because of kami's trainingand god is FAR more incredible than him.
• Kami (shen's body) was implied to be a better match for kid piccolo than anyone else (but goku) which includes popo. True form kami is way above that.
• 23rd TB tenshinhan implied that kami (shen's body) is on a level BEYOND him. There is no way just 5 years of training (assuming he even trained) put him above even true form kami.
• In BoZ, there was NO power level above 322 except piccolo and goku.
• Mr popo chose to stay on lookout rather than helping everyone in nappa battle. He lets kami die due to piccolo's death. If he could do anything , he'd have done it.

A lot of people disregard the pre-Z power levels, due to some inconsistencies with power statements during that point in the series. I only accept the 220/1,030 numbers in the context that it's during the Saiyan Battle, after Mr. Popo had trained the earthlings, and after Kami spent six years of getting older and probably not really doing anything strenuous.

• If I'm not wrong, the guidebooks also disregard this power level (1030 and 220) while using ALL other numbers as daizenshuu numbers from the same scan.
  (Although I don't put much stock in daizenshuu numbers but still worth noting)
• Mr Popo loves Kami. He will rather die than let kami die. If he was really 1030, he'd be of great help against nappa. But, he chooses to stay on lookout seeing kami die.
  That implies that he wouldn't be helpful.
• "You have all surpassed me now". I see this as author's intent to show that the HUMANS have become even stronger than the strongest being - Kami - on the earth (bar piccolo / goku gohan). I fail to see how this translates as "Kami becomes weaker than them and that allows them to surpass him"
• Kami implied that staying on lookout will be useless for humans now, and they should go down to earth. If popo already had a power level of 1030, then he would have been a great sparring partner for them, and would help them grow fast. Kami's words indicate otherwise.
• Mr popo was never included in "you have surpassed me"
• It makes no sense for popo to make negligible gains in hundreds of years of kami training and only become somewhat stronger than daimao, then train with goku for 3 years and still make negligible gains , then do the same training with earthlings for 6 months , not even using weighted clothes and suddenly make monstrous gains for no reason even when plot doesn't even need it.

Weighted 23rd TB Goku vs God.

If Goku needed to take the weights off to effectively beat Tenshinhan, then the same probably holds true for Kami too.

SSJ3 Gotenks full focused (100x kamikaze ghosts) vs Mystic Gohan?

The Kamikaze Ghosts are EXTREMELY potent. It would only take one or two direct hits from them to cripple Gohan and put him out of commission, and there's no way he's going to avoid a hundred of them.

First Form Freeza (Namek) vs Tenshinhan (Boo arc)
22nd Budokai Goku and Kuririn vs Spopovich and Yamu

— Even if Kuririn and Goku have the strength advantage (they probably don't), they wouldn't be able to overcome Spopovich and Yamu's freaky zombie-like resiliency.

1 Vs 2: Bora vs Spopovich and Yamu

Bora probably has the raw strength to put them both down... but whether or not they'll stay down is another question.

Yamcha [23rd TB] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]
Kuririn [23rd TB] vs. Piccolo Daimao [Young]

These guys, however, aren't up to the task yet. They're still significantly weaker than Tenshinhan, and neither of them have big finishing moves like the Kikoho.

God implied that goku didn't "need" to take his weights off to beat tenshinhan, and that was before he knew of goku's true abilities and power.

SS gotenks himself got exploded by a ghost but was brely damaged. I'd say that the potency of the ghosts is explosion and it is better against "buu type" beings because of their body.

How come bora has strength advantage over BOTH Yamu and spopovich and 22nd TB goku and krillin don't, when they are so far above bora that they can kill him in one hit? Even a 21st TB, goku and krillin working together should be comparable to bora.

Yamcha and krillin were able to follow movements of goku and tenshinhan (as fast as post god water goku) if it means anything.

[Smilodon]

Fat Gotenks vs Piccolo (boo saga)?
Skinny Gotenks vs Kuririn(boo saga)?
Goku Oozaru(who killed Granpa Gohan) vs Muten Roshi(21º TB) - Hand-to-hand fight?
Goku with heart problem vs Piccolo?
Mai vs Satan?
Nappa vs 4 Generic Namekian fighters?
Hungry Goku (from episode 1) vs Monaka?

[apex_pretador]

Fat Gotenks vs Piccolo (boo saga)?
Skinny Gotenks vs Kuririn(boo saga)?
Goku Oozaru(who killed Granpa Gohan) vs Muten Roshi(21º TB) - Hand-to-hand fight?
Goku with heart problem vs Piccolo?
Mai vs Satan?
Nappa vs 4 Generic Namekian fighters?
Hungry Goku (from episode 1) vs Monaka?

piccolo

probably krillin

unless roshi can fight h2h in buff form, goku destroys him

piccolo

probably Satan

Nappa wins assuming you mean 3000 pl fighters.

no way to tell

[DanielSSJ]

Fat Gotenks vs Piccolo (boo saga)?
Skinny Gotenks vs Kuririn(boo saga)?
Goku Oozaru(who killed Grandpa Gohan) vs Muten Roshi(21º TB) - Hand-to-hand fight?
Goku with heart problem vs Piccolo?
Mai vs Satan?
Nappa vs 4 Generic Namekian fighters?
Hungry Goku (from episode 1) vs Monaka?

- Definitely Piccolo.
- Kuririn destroys him.
- Yeah, unless if Roshi goes buff, Goku crushes him with one blow.
- Goku starts off stronger, but Piccolo would quickly take advantage of his fading power and sloppy performance.
- Mai has a gun, and we know that Mister Satan isn't bullet proof.
- Nappa's stronger than the Namekians, but he's not so strong that he could beat 4 at once.
- Monaka has taken a direct blow to the face from post-God Goku, so maybe he'd be able to handle the kid version?

[TenshinFan]

Fat Gotenks vs Piccolo (boo saga)?
Skinny Gotenks vs Kuririn(boo saga)?
Goku Oozaru(who killed Granpa Gohan) vs Muten Roshi(21º TB) - Hand-to-hand fight?
Goku with heart problem vs Piccolo?
Mai vs Satan?
Nappa vs 4 Generic Namekian fighters?
Hungry Goku (from episode 1) vs Monaka?

* Piccolo
* Skinny Gotenks
* Jackie Chun
* Piccolo
* Mai
* Nappa

[TenshinFan]

Everyone's Away on Namek and Garlic Jr. Wakes Up Early. Can He Be Stopped?

So who've we got left. The Tenkaichi Budokai fighters (including King Chapa and Chi Chi). Cyborg Tao Pai Pai and Tsuru-Sen'nin are pretty strong, whereas Gyuu-mao is sort of a pushover. Cymbal, Tambourine, Drum, and Piano are dead, as are Grandpa Gohan and Mutaito. Youve got Uranai Baba's Fighters plus Muten Roshi. Yajirobe, Korin, Popo, and Kami-sama might be the strongest left. Maybe #8 has some hidden moves. Maybe some of the Red Ribbon officers are still alive. Pilafs machine would likely be useless, and the Carrotizer Rabbit is drifting through the expanse of space. What's the extent of Oolong and Pu'erh's transformations? Lunch has a gun, Dr Brief has a lab.

In this scenario I imagine Garlic Jr from Movie 01 with Salza, Dore, and Naise.

Would Kaioshin intervene? Would Mr Satan and Videl make a difference?

I think Kami trying the Mafuba would be effective, except, well, he failed it in the Dead Zone movie IIRC.
I'm thinking a Double Super Kamehameha from Popo and Roshi could be a great Hail Mary, and Akkuman can use his 'evil expanding beam' to potentially explode Garlic himself if they can catch him before he grows big. Yajirobe can probably handle 1 or 2 Spice Boys.

Is the earth doomed?

[DanielSSJ]

Everyone's Away on Namek and Garlic Jr. Wakes Up Early. Can He Be Stopped?

So who've we got left. The Tenkaichi Budokai fighters (including King Chapa and Chi Chi). Cyborg Tao Pai Pai and Tsuru-Sen'nin are pretty strong, whereas Gyuu-mao is sort of a pushover. Cymbal, Tambourine, Drum, and Piano are dead, as are Grandpa Gohan and Mutaito. Youve got Uranai Baba's Fighters plus Muten Roshi. Yajirobe, Korin, Popo, and Kami-sama might be the strongest left. Maybe #8 has some hidden moves. Maybe some of the Red Ribbon officers are still alive. Pilafs machine would likely be useless, and the Carrotizer Rabbit is drifting through the expanse of space. What's the extent of Oolong and Pu'erh's transformations? Lunch has a gun, Dr Brief has a lab.

In this scenario I imagine Garlic Jr from Movie 01 with Salza, Dore, and Naise.

Would Kaioshin intervene? Would Mr Satan and Videl make a difference?

I think Kami trying the Mafuba would be effective, except, well, he failed it in the Dead Zone movie IIRC.
I'm thinking a Double Super Kamehameha from Popo and Roshi could be a great Hail Mary, and Akkuman can use his 'evil expanding beam' to potentially explode Garlic himself if they can catch him before he grows big. Yajirobe can probably handle 1 or 2 Spice Boys.

Is the earth doomed?

If this is Garlic without the Makyo star, Yajirobe is probably strong enough to beat him on his own. The problem is, with his immortality, Garlic will be almost impossible to put down for good. The only hope is that Kami or Muten Roshi could seal him away with the Mafuba. If this is powered-up Garlic, nobody stands a chance. Also, Nieze, Doore, and Sauzer are Cooler's goons, not Garlic's.

[TenshinFan]

Everyone's Away on Namek and Garlic Jr. Wakes Up Early. Can He Be Stopped?

So who've we got left. The Tenkaichi Budokai fighters (including King Chapa and Chi Chi). Cyborg Tao Pai Pai and Tsuru-Sen'nin are pretty strong, whereas Gyuu-mao is sort of a pushover. Cymbal, Tambourine, Drum, and Piano are dead, as are Grandpa Gohan and Mutaito. Youve got Uranai Baba's Fighters plus Muten Roshi. Yajirobe, Korin, Popo, and Kami-sama might be the strongest left. Maybe #8 has some hidden moves. Maybe some of the Red Ribbon officers are still alive. Pilafs machine would likely be useless, and the Carrotizer Rabbit is drifting through the expanse of space. What's the extent of Oolong and Pu'erh's transformations? Lunch has a gun, Dr Brief has a lab.

In this scenario I imagine Garlic Jr from Movie 01 with Salza, Dore, and Naise.

Would Kaioshin intervene? Would Mr Satan and Videl make a difference?

I think Kami trying the Mafuba would be effective, except, well, he failed it in the Dead Zone movie IIRC.
I'm thinking a Double Super Kamehameha from Popo and Roshi could be a great Hail Mary, and Akkuman can use his 'evil expanding beam' to potentially explode Garlic himself if they can catch him before he grows big. Yajirobe can probably handle 1 or 2 Spice Boys.

Is the earth doomed?

If this is Garlic without the Makyo star, Yajirobe is probably strong enough to beat him on his own. The problem is, with his immortality, Garlic will be almost impossible to put down for good. The only hope is that Kami or Muten Roshi could seal him away with the Mafuba. If this is powered-up Garlic, nobody stands a chance. Also, Nieze, Doore, and Sauzer are Cooler's goons, not Garlic's.

Okay wow, not sure how I ballsed that one up. Of course I meant Ginger, Sansho, and Nikki.

I'm sorry but I totally forgot what the Makyo Star does. I know in Dead Zone he transforms but I believe even in his transformed state he is meant to be weaker than Raditz. Technically Yajirobee beat Vegeta, so I'd say by that metric he stands the best chance. Roshi did clobber some Bio-men, which I believe are only marginally weaker than Saibamen. So I think Kame Sen'nin could also do some work. I think those two plus Popo would be the most effective and could probably save the world. That is, barring Garlic's immortality.

[DanielSSJ]

Okay wow, not sure how I ballsed that one up. Of course I meant Ginger, Sansho, and Nikki.

I'm sorry but I totally forgot what the Makyo Star does. I know in Dead Zone he transforms but I believe even in his transformed state he is meant to be weaker than Raditz. Technically Yajirobee beat Vegeta, so I'd say by that metric he stands the best chance. Roshi did clobber some Bio-men, which I believe are only marginally weaker than Saibamen. So I think Kame Sen'nin could also do some work. I think those two plus Popo would be the most effective and could probably save the world. That is, barring Garlic's immortality.

Honestly, World's Strongest doesn't have a very good power scale. The Bio-men lose to Roshi (PL: 139), but beat Gohan (PL: 981 at least), and Roshi puts up a halfway decent fight against the Bio-warriors, who somehow have Goku (PL: 8,000+) on the ropes. If you're looking for decent feats of power, it's probably best to avoid the movies.
Anyway, Buff Garlic is definitely weaker than Raditz, seeing how Piccolo and Goku were able to overwhelm him without too much trouble. I personally have him at around 600~700, which is comfortably below Yajirobe's 970, and Garlic's goons are pretty pathetic, seeing how pre-Kaio Goku beat two of them at the same time without taking off his weights. They'd probably be too much for anyone but Yajirobe, but they'd be fodder for the fat samurai.

[apex_pretador]

Honestly, World's Strongest doesn't have a very good power scale. The Bio-men lose to Roshi (PL: 139), but lose to Gohan(PL: 981 at the least), and Roshi puts up a halfway decent fight against the Bio-warriors, who somehow have Goku (PL: 8,000+) on the ropes. If you're looking for decent feats of power, it's probably best to avoid the movies.

Well, if you consider it as an alternate timeline where goku reached to kaio almost immediately, learnt kaioken and spirit bomb and came back, before saiyan arrival, then the issues of power scaling will be solved. Piccolo and gohan underwent some training, no training for humans so far.

- Piccolo and goku being equals
- Oolong still fearing of piccolo
- Roshi (139) vs bio-men (120) , very calm gohan (70) vs bio-men (120)
- Roshi doing something against bio-warriors (300 - 400)
- Goku (510) having trouble with bio-warriors (300-400)
- Enraged gohan (~1600) above KK x3 goku (1530)
- Krillin far, far weaker than gohan
- Krillin not wearing weights and kami-symbol

[DanielSSJ]

Honestly, World's Strongest doesn't have a very good power scale. The Bio-men lose to Roshi (PL: 139), but lose to Gohan(PL: 981 at the least), and Roshi puts up a halfway decent fight against the Bio-warriors, who somehow have Goku (PL: 8,000+) on the ropes. If you're looking for decent feats of power, it's probably best to avoid the movies.

Well, if you consider it as an alternate timeline where goku reached to kaio almost immediately, learnt kaioken and spirit bomb and came back, before saiyan arrival, then the issues of power scaling will be solved. Piccolo and gohan underwent some training, no training for humans so far.

- Piccolo and goku being equals
- Oolong still fearing of piccolo
- Roshi (139) vs bio-men (120) , very calm gohan (70) vs bio-men (120)
- Roshi doing something against bio-warriors (300 - 400)
- Goku (510) having trouble with bio-warriors (300-400)
- Enraged gohan (1600) above KK x2 goku (1530)
- Krillin far, far weaker than gohan
- Krillin not wearing weights and kami-symbol

Never once is anything like that suggested.
- It's highly unlikely that Goku would be able to handle the Kaioken at all, much less the higher multiplications like x3 or x4, if his base level is only 1.25x higher than when he died, not to mention that it makes no sense for him to leave Kaio's if he's not even as strong as him with Kaioken x2, seeing how Kaio admits that the Saiyans are even stronger than him. Unless this alternate universe also has Nappa and Vegeta being much weaker than their manga counterparts as well.
- If Goku's regular power level is 510, then his Kaioken x2 level would be 1,020, not 1,530, which is still barely Raditz level, I might add.
- Kuririn never wore God's symbol on his gi. In fact, I don't believe anyone but God himself did. And Kuririn wasn't wearing weights in the Saiyan battle, and he dropped them pretty early into the Namek arc.
- The movie has to take at least a year after Goku's revival, seeing how the Dragon Balls are being used in this movie, which would mean that the Saiyans have already arrived and been defeated. And even if this somehow takes place before the Saiyans arrive, everyone is pretty casual considering the huge threat racing their way. Only Goku and Piccolo are training and they do that in times of peace anyway. Gohan and Oolong are hunting the Dragon Balls in order to get panties of all things, rather than save them in case they need them to undo any casualties that the Saiyans cause. Frankly, if this is how they're preparing for the Saiyans, then they deserve to die.

I think it's easier and makes more sense to say that Toei wasn't really putting much thought into how strong everyone should be at that point in time and just wanted to make cool fight scenes, which they admittedly did.

[apex_pretador]

- If Goku's regular power level is 510, then his Kaioken x2 level would be 1,020, not 1,530, which is still barely Raditz level, I might add.

I meant times three. And enraged gohan has always been below base goku (post kaio). He was probably above kaioken goku in movie.

I think it's easier and makes more sense to say that Toei wasn't really putting much thought into how strong everyone should be at that point in time and just wanted to make cool fight scenes, which they admittedly did.

Agreed.
However, I myself feel that it is better fitted in the way I explained. Maybe saiyans collided with an asteroid and died in this timeline (and kaio told everyone)?




New battles:
(No self-destruct or planet destruct)

- Kid gohan, Super perfect cell, M vegeta, SS2 goku, SS gotenks (pre), super Bojack , Buu arc piccolo, base gotenks (post) VS SS3 goku (dead).

- Goku, M Vegeta, Gohan (SS2, buu arc) vs SS gotenks pre

- Goku, M Vegeta (SS2 , buu arc), Kid gohan , M10 broly , SPC vs Fat buu (pre)

- Goku and vegeta (SS2) vs fat buu (post split)

- Kid gohan vs buu arc piccolo , Kid goten, Kid trunks, future trunks (when he killed cell) , CG Goku , buu arc SS vegeta, green bojack, 4 cell jrs

- current base goku vs SS vegetto

[DanielSSJ]

New battles:
(No self-destruct or planet destruct)

- Kid gohan, Super perfect cell, M vegeta, SS2 goku, SS gotenks (pre), super Bojack , Buu arc piccolo, base gotenks (post) VS SS3 goku (dead).

- Goku, M Vegeta, Gohan (SS2, buu arc) vs SS gotenks pre

- Goku, M Vegeta (SS2 , buu arc), Kid gohan , M10 broly , SPC vs Fat buu (pre)

- Goku and vegeta (SS2) vs fat buu (post split)

- Kid gohan vs buu arc piccolo , Kid goten, Kid trunks, future trunks (when he killed cell) , CG Goku , buu arc SS vegeta, green bojack, 4 cell jrs

- current base goku vs SS vegetto

- Goku has more than enough power to vaporize everyone in one shot, and is strong and fast enough to fend everyone off with hand to hand. The only problem is that if this fight takes place on Earth, Goku is on a timer. If it's in Other World, dead Goku can probably last a while. Either way, I don't think Goku will have too much trouble finishing off his opponents before he runs out of energy.
- I go with Daizenshuu 7's explanation that Gotenks only surpassed Vegeta after he trained in the Room of Spirit and Time. Base on that, Gotenks gets stomped into the ground. Maybe he'll learn some humility.
- Majin Boo is not the type of fighter who could be overwhelmed with numbers, only power that matches or exceeds his own. As such, Boo wins without too much trouble.
- Boo post split is actually quite a bit weaker than Goku and Vegeta at SS2, and only has regeneration and magical candy powers to make up the difference. Goku or Vegeta on their own could probably handle this Boo. The two of them together are overkill.
- Gohan is stronger, but unless he's royally pissed of, I doubt he'd be able to fend off so many characters who are more skilled than him.
- Super, Skip!

[Khin]

- Kid gohan, Super perfect cell, M vegeta, SS2 goku, SS gotenks (pre), super Bojack , Buu arc piccolo, base gotenks (post) VS SS3 goku (dead).
- Goku, M Vegeta, Gohan (SS2, buu arc) vs SS gotenks pre
- Goku, M Vegeta (SS2 , buu arc), Kid gohan , M10 broly , SPC vs Fat buu (pre)
- Goku and vegeta (SS2) vs fat buu (post split)
- Kid gohan vs buu arc piccolo , Kid goten, Kid trunks, future trunks (when he killed cell) , CG Goku , buu arc SS vegeta, green bojack, 4 cell jrs
- current base goku vs SS vegetto

— See the SS2 Gohan vs. Cell Juniors fight ? That's basiaclly how this fight goes.
— If Gotenks doesn't dick around, he destroys the team.
— Buu turns all of them into candy.
— If this is the Buu that fought Grey Buu, Vegeta and Goku can win if they work hard. However, if this is the Buu that fought Kid Buu, Goku and Vegeta gets stomped.
— FPSS Gohan ? If so, i can see Vegeta alone taking this, but it wouldn't be an easy work for him.
— Pass.

[TenshinFan]

New battles:
(No self-destruct or planet destruct)

- Kid gohan, Super perfect cell, M vegeta, SS2 goku, SS gotenks (pre), super Bojack , Buu arc piccolo, base gotenks (post) VS SS3 goku (dead).

- Goku, M Vegeta, Gohan (SS2, buu arc) vs SS gotenks pre

- Goku, M Vegeta (SS2 , buu arc), Kid gohan , M10 broly , SPC vs Fat buu (pre)

- Goku and vegeta (SS2) vs fat buu (post split)

- Kid gohan vs buu arc piccolo , Kid goten, Kid trunks, future trunks (when he killed cell) , CG Goku , buu arc SS vegeta, green bojack, 4 cell jrs

- current base goku vs SS vegetto

SS3 Goku even against all that

Goku, M Vegeta, and SS2 Gohan go to town on SS Gotenks

Buu handles both waves

Ok I'm taking Piccolo, Gotens, Both Trunkses, Goku, Vegeta, and Bojack here. That's a posse.

How about these:

Tullece (no fruit) vs Kwi

Nappa vs Selipa

Giant Lord Slug vs Piccolo+Nail fusion

Salza, Dore, Naise vs Cell Saga Ten, Kuririn, Yamcha

Ginger, Sansho, Nikki vs suicidal Chaozu

14 & 15 vs Metal Coola & Mecha Freeza