The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:59 am

DBZ Macky wrote:Base Trunks (Manga, Current) VS Base Goku (Current)
Gohan (BoG) VS Goku (BoG)
SSJ3 Gotenks (BoG) VS SSJ3 Goku (BoG)
Raging Vegeta (Bog) VS Vegeta (Current, Without SSJB)
Base Gohan (Current) VS Piccolo (Current)
SSJ Gohan (Current) VS Piccolo (Current)
Vados VS Whis
Pass, unfortunately haven't read the manga up to that point.
Goku, of course. Taking Goku and Vegeta as comparably even, Gohan is clearly weaker based on how he and Vegeta fared against Beerus.
Gotenks, surprisingly. Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Base Gotenks did awful, so I'd expect the latter with a massive power boost to be much stronger.
Pass for the moment; could you please specify which Rageta you mean (movie or Super)?
If Piccolo can "train" Gohan, then he's obviously stronger.
I'd personally say Piccolo.
I thought perhaps they said that Vados is stronger than Whis, but I suppose I could have inferred that from her being older. Regardless, I'd say Vados.
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Post by DBZ Macky » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:16 pm

There should be no difference between BoG Rageta and Super Rageta since that 10% line was obviously retconned.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:24 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:There should be no difference between BoG Rageta and Super Rageta since that 10% line was obviously retconned.
In the movie he landed a few blows directly on Beerus, but in Super, I don't recall him landing a single blow (or maybe just a couple?). But, regardless, I think I'd say current Vegeta. Again, taking him and Goku as around equals, Beerus gets pretty nervous when people compare anyone to him, and he did when someone compared Goku.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:45 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:Base Trunks (Manga, Current) VS Base Goku (Current)
Gohan (BoG) VS Goku (BoG)
SSJ3 Gotenks (BoG) VS SSJ3 Goku (BoG)
Raging Vegeta (Bog) VS Vegeta (Current, Without SSJB)
Base Gohan (Current) VS Piccolo (Current)
SSJ Gohan (Current) VS Piccolo (Current)
Vados VS Whis
Goku smashes hard. I dont see any reason to put manga trunks above gotenks IN BASE.

Goku. He was heavily implied to be more powerful and is far better fighter.

Same as above. Also, goku has to last 5 minutes only/

Vegeta can put up a fight in base if not win. With SS, he finger flicks

Already happened, piccolo won

Gohan was even with piccolo in base. He smashes in SS.

No way to tell, but vados implied to be stronger, she wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:54 pm

1) Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks (after traveling back once more to the past and being given a Senzu Bean by Vegeta in the Future Trunks Saga) vs. Hell Fighter 17.

2) Super Perfect Cell (if he had barely survived the Father Son Kamehameha and regenerated back to full health for another Zenkai boost) vs. Goku Black.

3) Super Saiyan 2 Vegito (if he was born during the time of Battle of Gods) vs. Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Helios518 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:04 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks (after traveling back once more to the past and being given a Senzu Bean by Vegeta in the Future Trunks Saga) vs. Hell Fighter 17.

2) Super Perfect Cell (if he had barely survived the Father Son Kamehameha and regenerated back to full health for another Zenkai boost) vs. Goku Black.

3) Super Saiyan 2 Vegito (if he was born during the time of Battle of Gods) vs. Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

2. I doubt SP Cell could get another Zenkai that would put him near SSJ3 Goku (Manga Black's strength) let alone 100x stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks (Anime Black's strength).

3. If this is the Broly from 2nd coming that suddenly gained SSJ4 then he loses to even a Buu Saga SSJ Vegetto all the time. If this is the one from DBH then BoG SSJ2 Vegetto beats Broly 7/10 times
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:39 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks (after traveling back once more to the past and being given a Senzu Bean by Vegeta in the Future Trunks Saga) vs. Hell Fighter 17.

2) Super Perfect Cell (if he had barely survived the Father Son Kamehameha and regenerated back to full health for another Zenkai boost) vs. Goku Black.

3) Super Saiyan 2 Vegito (if he was born during the time of Battle of Gods) vs. Super Saiyan 4 Broly.
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Which broly? From his 2nd coming? Vegetto taps his finger and broly dies. Hell, SS1 vegetto, from buu arc can do the same.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Zeno vs One Above All.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:10 pm

Grimlock wrote:Zeno vs One Above All.
TOAA is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient for all practical purposes so he blinks Zeno out of existance. The best power Zeno has shown is destroying 6 universes, which is something that eternity could do.
Eternity was basically fodderized by IG Thanos, and IG is beliw the LT. LT isn't even comparable to TOAA, who can create or destroy infinite LTs with ease.


Actually, eternity will beat Zeno based on feats.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MaxZ » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:57 am

DBZ Macky wrote:Base Trunks (Manga, Current) VS Base Goku (Current)
Gohan (BoG) VS Goku (BoG)
SSJ3 Gotenks (BoG) VS SSJ3 Goku (BoG)
Raging Vegeta (Bog) VS Vegeta (Current, Without SSJB)
Base Gohan (Current) VS Piccolo (Current)
SSJ Gohan (Current) VS Piccolo (Current)
Vados VS Whis
-Goku stomps Trunks with zero effort
-Ultimate Gohan is far above SSJ3 Goku, he wins with ease.
-Gotenks stomps Goku with zero effort
-current Vegeta takes it
-Gohan might be able to inch out a victory over Piccolo, he seems to have some of his ultimate power remaining in base
-Gohan stomps Piccolo as a SSJ
-Vados beats Whis just barely, as all the information we currently have suggests Vados is slightly stronger

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:04 am

Mr. Satan vs. Captain Chicken.

The fight takes place on a fully evacuated, indestructible planet.

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Post by DBZ Macky » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:23 am

If EOZ is supposed to be after Super then I'd say Satan would win. He has access to Super Satan God as shown in Dragon Ball Super. Besides He's a trained martial artist and helped in defeating Cell and Majin Boo.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Roronoa-pt » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:27 am

MaxZ wrote:
DBZ Macky wrote:Base Trunks (Manga, Current) VS Base Goku (Current)
Gohan (BoG) VS Goku (BoG)
SSJ3 Gotenks (BoG) VS SSJ3 Goku (BoG)
Raging Vegeta (Bog) VS Vegeta (Current, Without SSJB)
Base Gohan (Current) VS Piccolo (Current)
SSJ Gohan (Current) VS Piccolo (Current)
Vados VS Whis
Base Goku, easily.
I assume that Goku didn't improve that much after the Buu saga, let alone be on par with Ultimate Gohan. Gohan wins.
Gotenks, if he's not fooling around.
Raging Vegeta seems to be somewhat a new level of SSJ2, stronger than SSJ3 Goku, so he wins.
Piccolo was fighing on par with a "inferior version" of Ultimate Gohan. Piccolo wins.
Piccolo is weaker but as Gohan is right now, Piccolo has a chance, if he plays his cards right.
Probably Whis. Just a hunch.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:47 am

In Brightest Day wrote:Mr. Satan vs. Captain Chicken.

The fight takes place on a fully evacuated, indestructible planet.
After seeing Mr Satan take blows from Cell AND Majin Boo without being turned into a fine red mist, I'd say that he has no trouble beating the poultry-themed nut job.
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Post by simtek34 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:48 am

Kid Goku (Pilaf Saga) vs Hercule
Arale vs Hercule
SS3 Gotenks (DBS RF) vs SS2 GT Kid Goku
SSGSS Goku (EoZ) vs Whis
Angry Uub vs Kid Buu
Baby Pan vs Pilaf, Mai, and Shu (Androids Saga) Before Becoming Babies
Nam vs Eighter
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:12 pm

simtek34 wrote:Kid Goku (Pilaf Saga) vs Hercule
Arale vs Hercule
SS3 Gotenks (DBS RF) vs SS2 GT Kid Goku
SSGSS Goku (EoZ) vs Whis
Angry Uub vs Kid Buu
Baby Pan vs Pilaf, Mai, and Shu (Androids Saga) Before Becoming Babies
Nam vs Eighter
End of Z Goku SS3 vs Black
Krillin (Cell Games Saga) vs Imperfect Cell (No Absorbtions)
Yamcha (Other World Kid Buu Saga) vs First Form Freeza
Goku one shots and accidentally kills him

Same as above, but arale does that

SS3 gotenks wins by default as there is no SS2 in GT.

No way to tell how strong EoZ goku will be so whis by feats

Kid buu blows up the planet, including uub, goku, vegeta, piccolo

Really? Baby pan beat base trunks

#8 stomps. Nam was fairly weaker than goku, who despite getting a lot powered up, was weaker than #8.

No way to tell how strong is EoZ goku or black.

This Yamcha should be a lot closer to base goku from CG arc, he stomps.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:31 pm

Not actually doing this set, but I wanted to point this out.
apex_pretador wrote:SS3 gotenks wins by default as there is no SS2 in GT.
Shouldn't you assume it's hypothetical instead of skipping over it?
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Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:21 pm

simtek34 wrote:Kid Goku (Pilaf Saga) vs Hercule
Arale vs Hercule
SS3 Gotenks (DBS RF) vs SS2 GT Kid Goku
SSGSS Goku (EoZ) vs Whis
Angry Uub vs Kid Buu
Baby Pan vs Pilaf, Mai, and Shu (Androids Saga) Before Becoming Babies
Nam vs Eighter
End of Z Goku SS3 vs Black
Krillin (Cell Games Saga) vs Imperfect Cell (No Absorbtions)
Yamcha (Other World Kid Buu Saga) vs First Form Freeza
- Oh Goku, no question. Kid is strong enough to lift cars and take bullets head on. Greatest feat Mr Satan has under his belt (outside of filler and cartoon physics) is Karate chopping 14 out or 15 stacked tiles.
- Arale cracked the Earth with a single punch, and you expect Mr. Satan to fight her? Even by Dragon Ball's comparatively conservative standards, she's well above Goku during the Red Ribbon Army arc.
- GT and Super? Pass.
- Pass.
- Oob at his absolute best is as being exactly as strong as Pure Boo, but he barely has a handle on his power and can't manipulate Ki like Boo can. Oob is super dead.
- Whether they're children or adults, they definitely lose to Super Baby.
- Namu was at a definite disadvantage against Goku whereas Hatchan was quite a bit stronger than a Goku who was slightly more powerful than he was in the tournament. Namu's Tenkū x Jiken fails to even scratch the android.
- Skip!
- No way in hell is Kuririn anywhere near someone on the Super Saiyan tier.
- First Form Freeza is a line I don't think any of the earthlings ever cross. Yamcha himself doesn't even break the 100,000 wall in my book. Freeza slaughters.
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Post by Alruneia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:50 pm

simtek34 wrote:Kid Goku (Pilaf Saga) vs Hercule
Arale vs Hercule
SS3 Gotenks (DBS RF) vs SS2 GT Kid Goku
SSGSS Goku (EoZ) vs Whis
Angry Uub vs Kid Buu
Baby Pan vs Pilaf, Mai, and Shu (Androids Saga) Before Becoming Babies
Nam vs Eighter
End of Z Goku SS3 vs Black
Krillin (Cell Games Saga) vs Imperfect Cell (No Absorbtions)
Yamcha (Other World Kid Buu Saga) vs First Form Freeza
Goku, Arale, Goku, Buu, Whis, Pan, Eighter, Black, Cell, Yamcha.
The Uub one is interesting, but it really just depends on what time period you're choosing. EoZ Uub is as strong as Kid Buu when angry and using 100 % of his power, something he's not good at, and Buu has techniques and regeneration, but Uub from any point in GT would beat Kid Buu no problem, because he's been training with Goku for five years.
The Yamcha vs Frieza one depends on filler feats. He didn't get demolished by Olibu, that's why I say he wins. In a canon-only fight he'd lose.
I'm also assuming that when you say "Baby Pan" you mean Pan from Super, not a Pan who's possessed/being controlled by Baby.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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