Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:47 pm

Kame-sennin's libido vs. anyone's libido. Who wins?
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:09 pm

Perfect wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Too bad MKvs.DC is not canon :P.
Considering DC doesn't have a stable time line, who's to say?
I believe it was mention in the Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe Kollector's Edition DVD featurette.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:08 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Kame-sennin's libido vs. anyone's libido. Who wins?
Kame Sen'nin. He's got a bigger libido than a teenager, and he's over one hundred years old! :P

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Bussani » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:44 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Kame-sennin's libido vs. anyone's libido. Who wins?
Happosai. He spends all of his free time stealing girls' underwear, and his libido is so big that he literally almost died when he wasn't able to grope women.

He's also a 300 year old martial arts master... He and Roshi would probably get along.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Onikage725 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:03 am

Perv-fight: Muten Roshi vs Happosai vs Jiraiya vs Guiseppi (Wicked City)
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:20 am

Goku (21st Budokai) vs Sage Naruto :/
23rd Budokai vs One Piece Verse
Pre Crisis Superman vs SSJ4 Gogeta
Mr Satan vs Chuck Norris
Alucard vs King Piccolo
DBE Goku vs Naruto
King Kong vs Oozaru
Raditz vs The Entire Jedi Order
Galactus vs A Thousand Vegitos. (Rocketman would hate that)
23rd Piccolo vs Yusuke
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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:12 am

Bussani wrote:I think the scene is too vague and too "gaggy" to be used to make calculations, and I doubt Toriyama or Toei thought about it that hard.
Doesn't matter if it is "gaggy" though, as it happened anyways, and since the trail of his ki was there even though he had flown past it numerous times, I think it's safe to say he was an unspefied amount faster than light.

And also as with the real world fighting speed >>>>> Flight speed/travel speed what ever, so claiming Raditz was faster than light by the Saiyan saga, but only, when moving certain parts of his body isn't that far fetched.

Mr. Popo said he was faster than lightning, no one contradicted him, so he spoke the truth. Kami is stronger/more talented whatever than Mr. Popo is, so he is probably even beyond that. 3 Years later Goku and Piccolo move so fast, that Kami even with his GODly eyes is unable to see them, Goku and Piccolo are without a doubt a lot faster than lightning, when fighting.

The speed of lightning is hard to figure out though, but the general consensus is that its highest speed is 148.800 Km/sec. ca. ½ of the speed of light in vacuum(and its lowest at approximately 1/10th). So even if we can't properly figure out how long it took for Piccolo's blast to reach the moon, it doesn't contradict anything to claim, that Raditz was faster than light, while fighting, because it's only logical to assume Piccolo's best attack was, besides being his strongest, also the fastest he could muster, explaining his surprise at Raditz evading it.

In the same arc we see Goku travelling a distance of 1.000.000 kilometres in 6 months!!! proving that fighting speed >>>>>>>> Travelling speed, as Goku's goal on the lookout was to get faster than lightning, and surpass Popo, which he did, when we saw, that not even Kami could see him.

EDIT: If you don't believe that then there is also Muten Roshi running 100 metres in 5,6 seconds giving him an average speed of 64,3 km/h, while he later on was able to catch 12 bullets shot by a Red Ribbon soldier, proving that travel speed is far from being equal to fighting speed, just like in the real world.

EDIT2: Shunkan Ido is more than 10x faster than light at least!

At the topic
What about Tekken vs. 21st Budokai DB fighters(ALL of them).
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:23 pm

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:Goku (21st Budokai) vs Sage Naruto :/
I think the battle can go either way, I can see Goku winning after a good fight due to speed
23rd Budokai vs One Piece Verse
23rd Goku did surrived a attack that wipe out a Island with no damage, and is stronger then Roshi who can blow up a Moon with enough ki. I'm not sure how can deal with the logias, and WB seems the only who has a decent chance of winning. I see Goku winning with some major effort.
Pre Crisis Superman vs SSJ4 Gogeta
I'm gussing you are talking about Silver Age Superman (60's - early 80's before the events of COIE)? While SA Superman might not always fight at his top speed, I still say wins for having a better durability, and strength. Both SA Superman and Super Girl surrived Galaxy busting with no damage, and can pick up large starts then throw them like toys.
Mr Satan vs Chuck Norris
Chuck Norris duh :P
Alucard vs King Piccolo
End of Series Alucard or Pre-Schrodinger Alucard before the end of the manga? I'm not sure if Piccolo Diamo would be strong enough to kill EOS Alucard seeing that EOS Alucard can't die unless his soul is remove. He might able to BFR him, but Alucard might win.
DBE Goku vs Naruto
Which Nartuo. Seeing that DBE Goku almost die after getting stab from Mai, I see Nartuo winning this unless he fires his kamehameha.
King Kong vs Oozaru
Which Oozaru and Kong are we using? If its Goku when he first become a Oozaru against Toho's Kong then Kong should able to win if he is power up seeing that he was able to stand up to Godzilla's ray at full force (Which melt large rocks easily), and that he has decent combat skills. I think Kong '33 and Kong '76 might lose, I have no idea how Jackson's Kong would put up a fight.
Raditz vs The Entire Jedi Order
The Entire Jedi Order would likely win
23rd Piccolo vs Yusuke
Yusuke after fusing with Raizen right? From what I can remember Yusuke's strongest attack destroy mountains, and Piccolo is much stronger then his father who can pretty much the samething as well. I think in the end, Piccolo would win.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by caejones » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:29 pm

Ussj Future Trunks wrote: Pre Crisis Superman vs SSJ4 Gogeta
We didn't see enough of SSJ4Gogeta to guess if he was anything r...
Oh, wait. Fusion timelimit. Right.
That aside... XD
Mr Satan vs Chuck Norris
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DBE Goku vs Naruto
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Raditz vs The Entire Jedi Order
The new or old Jedi Order?
In either case, if it's Raditz Vs the entire order... I give the edge to the Jedi.
Raditz Vs one, or even a small group... Raditz has the edge.
Galactus vs A Thousand Vegitos. (Rocketman would hate that)
Ah, Galactus...
To "kill" a Galactus that was weakened from hunger, it took the combined efforts of three galaxies, including the Fantastic Four, the Shiar Empire, and some Kree warships. I tend to think of that as similar to Goku's Genkidama in GT.

Galactus wasn't really dead, though. All of that only managed to break his armor, rendering him incapacitated for a while.

However... Galactus being really, really, really hard to kill doesn't mean he can take down Vegetto. :P
Survive, perhaps, but...
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Post by Savage68 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:30 pm

caejones wrote:Superman is weak to Magic.
No, he isn't. It only affects him in the same fashion as it would a normal person. Probably less so, seeing as how he's Super and stuff.
Perfect wrote:Considering DC doesn't have a stable time line, who's to say?
DC does have a stable time line, so...
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:31 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Doesn't matter if it is "gaggy" though, as it happened anyways, and since the trail of his ki was there even though he had flown past it numerous times, I think it's safe to say he was an unspefied amount faster than light.
Light can travel around the world seven times in one second. Gotenks was nowhere near that fast.
Ah, Galactus...
To "kill" a Galactus that was weakened from hunger, it took the combined efforts of three galaxies, including the Fantastic Four, the Shiar Empire, and some Kree warships. I tend to think of that as similar to Goku's Genkidama in GT.
So... base Vegetto, who's getting his knob polished by his wives at the same time.

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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:42 pm

Rocketman wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Doesn't matter if it is "gaggy" though, as it happened anyways, and since the trail of his ki was there even though he had flown past it numerous times, I think it's safe to say he was an unspefied amount faster than light.
Light can travel around the world seven times in one second. Gotenks was nowhere near that fast.
On the panel, where we see it from outer space Gotenks circled the Earth 5 times, but his loops were not done on the surface of the planet, they were high above that meaning we don't know how much he really did, in that instant.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:01 pm

Rocketman wrote:So... base Vegetto, who's getting his knob polished by his wives at the same time.
We could all stand to be more like Vegetto. :)
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Post by mysticboy » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:55 pm

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:Goku (21st Budokai) vs Sage Naruto :/
23rd Budokai vs One Piece Verse
Pre Crisis Superman vs SSJ4 Gogeta
Mr Satan vs Chuck Norris
Alucard vs King Piccolo
DBE Goku vs Naruto
King Kong vs Oozaru
Raditz vs The Entire Jedi Order
Galactus vs A Thousand Vegitos. (Rocketman would hate that)
23rd Piccolovs Yusuke
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23rd Goku vs. Ryu (SF) Stats equalized [pure skill].
Murasaki vs. Ryu Hayabusa.

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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:06 pm

Roshi Vs Boa Hancock
Any idea on how quickly, Roshi would turned into stone? :wink:

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Post by Kaboom » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:05 pm

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Roshi Vs Boa Hancock
Any idea on how quickly, Roshi would turned into stone? :wink:
Just like with Sanji, she wouldn't even have to use her Love-Love powers. Roshi would get turned to stone just by looking at her.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:59 pm

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Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Roshi Vs Boa Hancock
Any idea on how quickly, Roshi would turned into stone? :wink:
Faster than he can say "boobies". :P

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Post by Perfect » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:03 pm

Some of these ideas are just ludicrous...The physics conflict way too much.
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Post by NeoKING » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:47 pm

So, I've been getting into Saint Seiya(I'm at the part where SAORI WAS SHOT WITH AN EVIL ARROW AND THE HEROES MUST PLAY AT HOROSCOPES TO STOP THE POPE!) and I was wondering if Goku could beat any of the Gold Saints. I know he can dominate Seiya but the GS seem so broken, especially the Virgo(who is said REPEATEDLY to be "second to God") and the Leo("Seiya! Your Meteor of Pegasis can reach speeds of one-hundred blows per second, but being the Gold Saint that I am, ALL of my blows travel at light velocity, so I can fire one-hundred MILLION blows per second!!")

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