The general American fanbase really annoys me.

[ABED]

Once an American fan says Goku sounds like a girl or anything of that sort, their opinions no longer matter to me. I don't think you can have an intelligent conversation about anime or any form of foreign entertainment with that person at any point.

Yeah, I get how the uninitiated would be put off by a strong man sounding awfully young for his age but dismissing the whole JPN version is pretty close-minded

Does Nozawa make Goku sound young for his age? He's 23 at the beginning of DBZ.

[Axiom]

American voices and music are better, and no amount of complaining, yelling, or anything else will make me change my mind.

[Tyro]

American voices and music are better, and no amount of complaining, yelling, or anything else will make me change my mind.

Please stop being 10.

[VegettoEX]

American voices and music are better, and no amount of complaining, yelling, or anything else will make me change my mind.

Please stop being 10.

That's not only not a particularly good way to counter and have a discussion, but it's also pretty against the community rules of conduct.

I'm 100% completely on-board with disagreeing on that statement, but there's a way to respond to it, and yours is not it.

[Axiom]

I don't think a ultra masculine character should sound like a girl. I don't like the Japanese voices, the don't just bother me - I can't stand them. I usually put the video on mute and read the subtitles. The music is unexpectedly dated, but I think some of the newer soundtracks sound awesome. Vegeta's theme, SSJ3 Goku - Cell, All of those are awesome.

[Rocketman]

Once an American fan says Goku sounds like a girl or anything of that sort, their opinions no longer matter to me.

That's an objectively correct fact, though.

[FNF]

Once an American fan says Goku sounds like a girl or anything of that sort, their opinions no longer matter to me.

That's an objectively correct fact, though.

But some little boys sound like girls so...yer no.

[Thanos]

The logical part of my brain knows it doesn't matter, and understands the ignorance. By and large, the more ignorant someone is, the more vocal and arrogant they are about their opinion... which is I think what annoys me.

I recently saw a video on YouTube of something Dragon Ball subtitled in Japanese, and one of the top comments, with like 65 up votes, was something like, "DBZ, the one anime where the English voices are so much better." It took a lot of power to take the rational side, otherwise I would've gone into a fit of rage and been way too tempted to not reply and lash out at this person... because to me it just seems disrespectful. You have all of this wonderful, veteran talent of the Japanese actors who are being shat on by 10-year-olds. But then I realized that, again, it doesn't matter, and I'd likely make myself even angrier because I'd probably be bullied by YouTube FUNi fanboys and downvoted into oblivion. There are many facets of this that annoy me, but chief among them is that it's another example of Western arrogance. In the same way many Americans pretend that the US is the center of the universe, FUNi fanboys act like the Faulconer score still holds some merit, despite the fact that it was only used for licensing reasons in one corner of the planet... The vast majority of the world grew up with their own voices, which is fine, but most of them are familiar with the Kikuchi score.

The criticism I hear about the Kikuchi score from dubbies is that it sounds old/cheesy or whatever. To me, that's the kind of reaction someone has to something old they had no attachment to. If they had actually grown up with it instead of the Faulconer score, do they actually think they'd still think of it as old/cheesy!? Of course they're not loyal to it--they have no familiarity with it.

American voices and music are better, and no amount of complaining, yelling, or anything else will make me change my mind.

You're entitled to your opinion, but the fact of the matter is, your position is rampent on YouTube. Please allow us who are loyal to the source material to have our corner of the internet. I'm sure YouTube would welcome you with open arms.

[Hellspawn28]

I recently saw a video on YouTube of something Dragon Ball subtitled in Japanese, and one of the top comments, with like 65 up votes, was something like, "DBZ, the one anime where the English voices are so much better." It took a lot of power to take the rational side, otherwise I would've gone into a fit of rage and been way too tempted to not reply and lash out at this person... because to me it just seems disrespectful.

I hate when that happens. It seems like most American fans don't respect the original source material that much. It reminds how people are with Japanese monster movies by saying that they are silly and stupid. It's okay if you don't like it, but you should respect it nevertheless.

[Tyro]

I don't think a ultra masculine character should sound like a girl. I don't like the Japanese voices, the don't just bother me - I can't stand them. I usually put the video on mute and read the subtitles. The music is unexpectedly dated, but I think some of the newer soundtracks sound awesome. Vegeta's theme, SSJ3 Goku - Cell, All of those are awesome.

And that's a perfectly legitimate, understandable stance to have. Presumably you're from America where manly characters doing manly things have deep, manly voices. But don't close your mind to seeing things from a different perspective- the original perspective, at that. The reason Dragonball is still alive is because it has done so well. Maybe just try to voice your disgust of the product in a more polite way? If one dub isn't for you, don't HATE it. Just let others like it and let them know how you think other dubs are superior and why. (Sorry for the 10-year-old comment before.)

[Zephyr]

Once an American fan says Goku sounds like a girl or anything of that sort, their opinions no longer matter to me.

That's an objectively correct fact, though.

So high pitched = female, 100% of the time then?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Hmm Goku's voiced by a female that tries to sound like a child yet doesn't sound like a girl? seems legit. It's when said American fan has a problem with Maskao's voice, that's when their opinion becomes invalid to you.

[Mewzard]

You're entitled to your opinion, but the fact of the matter is, your position is rampent on YouTube. Please allow us who are loyal to the source material to have our corner of the internet. I'm sure YouTube would welcome you with open arms.

If you were loyal to the source material, you wouldn't care about the voices or music, you'd care about the manga. THAT is the source material. If an anime was adapted from a manga, the manga is the source material.

And that's a perfectly legitimate, understandable stance to have. Presumably you're from America where manly characters doing manly things have deep, manly voices. But don't close your mind to seeing things from a different perspective- the original perspective, at that. The reason Dragonball is still alive is because it has done so well. Maybe just try to voice your disgust of the product in a more polite way? If one dub isn't for you, don't HATE it. Just let others like it and let them know how you think other dubs are superior and why. (Sorry for the 10-year-old comment before.)

Most people think of muscular men who do badass things as having deep, "manly" voices. Ever notice how people make fun of Mike Tyson's voice for being so strange for a musclebound guy (not to his face though, as he could destroy most people with a punch, lol)?

I like Nozawa's Goku, it took me a while to get used to, but I like it now. That said, it is still a little strange for a guy with Goku's build to sound like that. In real life if you heard a voice like that coming out of a full grown man, you'd at least think about it for a moment.

For me, I'm just glad to have two Goku VAs I enjoy (Nozawa and Schemmel *more for Kai now than Z. Kai let the dub quality grow with my expectations, lol*), and that's enough for me.

[ABED]

It depends on what build you are talking about. At the end of Dragon Ball, he's not nearly as buff.

[TheGmGoken]

American voices and music are better, and no amount of complaining, yelling, or anything else will make me change my mind.

That's your opinion but sorry to say! The voice acting in English dub are boring. At least the JPN brought something new. The music is horrible. Why play it 24/7? Half the time it doesn't fit. I remember when they played Hell Bells for Freeza. Seriously Funi ._.

The music is unexpectedly dated

Dbz isn't a young anime. I think it came out in the 80's.

What I hate most about the common USA DBZ fanbase is that they not only disrespect the original audio but sometimes they ignore Dragonball. I remember one comment saying " Funimation is the only real version of Dbz and to me your(yes he spelled it your not you're) not a true fan if you don't like it. It's how dbz should be. All the other dubs suck because no Bruce and the script is different."

[Thanos]

You're entitled to your opinion, but the fact of the matter is, your position is rampent on YouTube. Please allow us who are loyal to the source material to have our corner of the internet. I'm sure YouTube would welcome you with open arms.

If you were loyal to the source material, you wouldn't care about the voices or music, you'd care about the manga. THAT is the source material. If an anime was adapted from a manga, the manga is the source material.

We're not talking about the manga. The source material being the original Dragon Ball Z series as it was produced by TOEI.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It's true, since the material in the original Funimation dub doesn't match the original Japanese anime, it doesn't match the source material since the Japanese anime is the source.

[Tyro]

And that's a perfectly legitimate, understandable stance to have. Presumably you're from America where manly characters doing manly things have deep, manly voices. But don't close your mind to seeing things from a different perspective- the original perspective, at that. The reason Dragonball is still alive is because it has done so well. Maybe just try to voice your disgust of the product in a more polite way? If one dub isn't for you, don't HATE it. Just let others like it and let them know how you think other dubs are superior and why. (Sorry for the 10-year-old comment before.)

Most people think of muscular men who do badass things as having deep, "manly" voices. Ever notice how people make fun of Mike Tyson's voice for being so strange for a musclebound guy (not to his face though, as he could destroy most people with a punch, lol)?

I like Nozawa's Goku, it took me a while to get used to, but I like it now. That said, it is still a little strange for a guy with Goku's build to sound like that. In real life if you heard a voice like that coming out of a full grown man, you'd at least think about it for a moment.

I've never been outside the US so I don't know what may or may not be true for another country, but I would agree that men are "supposed" to have deeper voices than women. But while Goku may sound womanly to some, maybe he sounds natural to children in Japan? Maybe being more high pitched is reflective of his innocent nature? If JPN Goku sounds like a woman to people around the world then I humbly retract my statement.

You say "in real life" but I think it's important to frame this as an anime thing. We've all heard tons of voices, from the highest pitched to the deepest, like FUNi Piccolo, that I think wouldn't sound natural to some degree, but they definitely sound badass on screen.

[TheGmGoken]

Man reason why I like Goku's JPN voice is because it's different. You also can tell who's the main character. It's something differ and new. Not to mention Brock Lesnar(Wrestler and UFC fighter) was build and his voice was high pitched.

[ABED]

Man reason why I like Goku's JPN voice is because it's different. You also can tell who's the main character. It's something differ and new. Not to mention Brock Lesnar(Wrestler and UFC fighter) was build and his voice was high pitched.

It's not super deep but Brock's voice isn't that high.