Dragon Ball: The Complete Illustrations. *Updated With Pics*

laserkid · Post by **laserkid** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:39 pm

I think that they waited this long to get TO the Daizenshuu shows that they're doing this because enough people pestered them for so long for it. If they had released it much earlier it would have been more likely a "It has DBZs name on it lets sell it!" deal - which wouldn't necessarily bode well for further Daizenshuu.

Because the DBZ heyday in the states is dead (its off television, the manga is done, though being forever rereleased) that they released a random ass DBZ book would HAVE to be by popular demand. Otherwise there's no sense in it. The popular thing to do would be to release something for Naruto or Bleach instead.

Therefore, if this is being done for popular demand, the liklihood of a second Daizenshuu perfectly hinges on how well the Daizenshuu sells.

In short, Viz heard cries for the Daizenshii long enough, and consistant enough that they finally released one. Now we have to prove to them its worth doing more by paying for it.

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:58 pm

Do they have that first Daizen in the bookstores like Borders? I go there a lot and haven't seen it.

Post by **Herms** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:01 pm

Incidently, does anyone know when Glenat released the French editions of Daizenshuu 1 and 7, and where that was in releation to the manga and anime's release in France?

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:26 pm

Adamant wrote:
Forgotten Hero wrote: Also, it is not that I don't think Europe has DBZ fans at all. But I am sure they don't have as many fans as we do here in the states. Plus this is America, anything to make quick buck.
Is that why they waited 10 years after introducing the series before releasing a single daizenshuu?

They? Funimation did start operations until DBZ ended. Plus, Anime wasn't really around back then. Funimation bring over DBZ was really a pioneering factor to the anime phenomenon.

Post by **Herms** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:27 pm

I think he means Viz.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:53 pm

Forgotten Hero wrote:
Adamant wrote:
Forgotten Hero wrote: Also, it is not that I don't think Europe has DBZ fans at all. But I am sure they don't have as many fans as we do here in the states. Plus this is America, anything to make quick buck.
Is that why they waited 10 years after introducing the series before releasing a single daizenshuu?
They? Funimation did start operations until DBZ ended. Plus, Anime wasn't really around back then. Funimation bring over DBZ was really a pioneering factor to the anime phenomenon.

Cartoon Network pushing the show to number one status was more a factor, and also them pushing anime as top priority programming.

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:18 pm

Herms wrote:I think he means Viz.

Oh ok, I don't really know anything about Viz's history.

Raki wrote:Cartoon Network pushing the show to number one status was more a factor, and also them pushing anime as top priority programming.

Yeah pushing it on to Toonami was a big factor, but I think basing your entire operations, at on point, on a single property is more important.

INVINCEABLE · Post by **INVINCEABLE** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:13 am

mAcChaos wrote:Do they have that first Daizen in the bookstores like Borders? I go there a lot and haven't seen it.

Yes. I picked it up yesterday, from Borders. It may be an early release though.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:00 pm

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:53 pm

Yeah, that was bad response to Raki there...

But you are right, DBZ did make Anime mainstream.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:13 pm

Forgotten Hero wrote:Yeah, that was bad response to Raki there...

But you are right, DBZ did make Anime mainstream.

I think Sailor Moon and other anime helped to do it as well. DBZ didn't do it by itself.

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:32 pm

Raki wrote:
Forgotten Hero wrote:Yeah, that was bad response to Raki there...

But you are right, DBZ did make Anime mainstream.
I think Sailor Moon and other anime helped to do it as well. DBZ didn't do it by itself.

No, I really think DBZ did it on its own. Sailor Moon, I think, made it acceptable for Girls to jump on the anime train. But a lot of girls already loved DBZ anyway.

But this only my opinion, so you are just as right or wrong as I am.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:56 pm

I always thought it was Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, and Pokemon together that launched the super-rise of 'anime being more widely known in the mainstream.'

I'll be honest though, I had barely any clue what anime was when I first started watching them. I knew all three series were from Japan, but that didn't seem to factor into it.

Anyway, I bought my Daizenshuu earlier today and I LOVE IT! I want Viz to release all the other volumes now too.

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:44 am

I hope so too, I've been checking Amazon everyday.

mysteriousdbzgt · Post by **mysteriousdbzgt** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:48 am

I just ordered it yesterday. Can't wait till it arrives!!!

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:35 pm

Mine came today, I've gone over it like 5 times already.

Sshadow5001 · Post by **Sshadow5001** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:15 pm

I ordered mine 4 days ago and it arrived today.

I hope they release the rest of the Daizenshuu because there pure awesome.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:52 pm

Sshadow5001 wrote:I ordered mine 4 days ago and it arrived today.

I hope they release the rest of the Daizenshuu because there pure awesome.

Check out the Akira Toriyama interview, it says PART 1! Mother fucking PART 1! That definitely means MOAR!

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:31 pm

lol, this is the happiness I like to see. All because of Dragonball.

Anyways, I've been rereading my Daizenshuu like once a day.
I've also read that Shenlong Times, on Kanzentai, like a bunch of times.
Maybe they'll release all the Shenlong Times in one printing, I hope.

Smindas · Post by **Smindas** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:56 pm

Got my book the other day, and I have to say, it's a lovely package. It's great to have all these high quality images and examine how Toriyama's style evolved over the decade. Good purchase indeed.

Kanzenshuu

Dragon Ball: The Complete Illustrations. Updated With Pics