Based on how Super Saiyan 2 Gohan's Ki (the weakest of the Super Saiyan 2 characters) restored nearly half of Fat Boo's power, I'd say that he's probably closer to Super Saiyan 2 than he is Super Saiyan 3. Goku displayed complete confidence in his ability to defeat Fat Boo by the end of the arc.Angelus wrote:Fat Buu is an unfused SSJ3 tier. Meaning he's around 8x more powerful than Buu Arc SSJs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is 2x a SSJ. So even if Good Buu is only 25% of Fat Buu's power, it would put him dead equal with SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. Good Buu takes this due to regen
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But Fat Buu kept up with SSJ3 Goku. Goku was holding back but Fat Buu's regen and technique-copying enabled him to keep up with a SSJ3. If Fat Buu was only half the power of SSJ3 Goku, then he would have been one-shotted the same way SSJ2 Gohan was able to one-shot Full Power Perfect Cell. Same ratio of power, one being only half as powerful as the other. The lowest, Fat Buu would be 6x more powerful than a Buu Arc SSJ. Then again, lower ratios of power have been shown, like Vegeta and Cui/Dodoria. Alright, now I'm not sure lolDanielSSJ wrote:Based on how Super Saiyan 2 Gohan's Ki (the weakest of the Super Saiyan 2 characters) restored nearly half of Fat Boo's power, I'd say that he's probably closer to Super Saiyan 2 than he is Super Saiyan 3. Goku displayed complete confidence in his ability to defeat Fat Boo by the end of the arc.Angelus wrote:Fat Buu is an unfused SSJ3 tier. Meaning he's around 8x more powerful than Buu Arc SSJs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is 2x a SSJ. So even if Good Buu is only 25% of Fat Buu's power, it would put him dead equal with SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. Good Buu takes this due to regen
Here's a versus though:
DBS SSJG Goku VS Post-ROSAT SSJ3 Gotenks (that's 100x more powerful; just multiply Gotenk's power by 100)
[No time limits for both. No playing around for Gotenks]
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Buu wins. He is still stronger than any SS2 prior to BoGTheUltimateNinja wrote:Good Buu vs Majin Vegeta.
God goku godstomps.Angelus wrote:
Here's a versus though:
DBS SSJG Goku VS Post-ROSAT SSJ3 Gotenks (that's 100x more powerful; just multiply Gotenk's power by 100)
[No time limits for both. No playing around for Gotenks]
God goku is far more powerful than current SS Goku, who should be able to beat SS3 gotenks x100
Base goku dies lol. If this is base goku, who punched the beerus's sphere of destruction, he wins.Angelus wrote:DBS Post-SSJG ritual Base Goku VS Manga Buu Arc SSJ Vegito (that's 80x more powerful)
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But I thought base Goku, post-SSJG ritual, was already as powerful as a SSJG
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If he was, then SS post ritual would be 50x as stronger as SSG.Angelus wrote:But I thought base Goku, post-SSJG ritual, was already as powerful as a SSJG
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Piccolo (Super) Vs SSJ3 Vegetto.
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DanielSSJ wrote:He's so inherently childlike that I bet he would qualify as pure-hearted.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Akkuman could beat him if he's not pure of heart.
Well I do not think erasing universes and its inhabitants just because something has bothered you could classify you the pure-hearted.
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Piccolo gets wasted. By all accounts in Super, he still below the Super Saiyans as he dominated by Tagoma, who got his ass kicked by SSJ Gohan and was only able to hold his own against a fatigued Frost, who got his ass handed to him by SSJ Goku.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Piccolo (Super) Vs SSJ3 Vegetto.
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The fact that Super's power scaling is so amazingly awful that people think this is a good match-up is really a testament as to how bad Toei is when left with too much influence.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Piccolo (Super) Vs SSJ3 Vegetto.
Anyway Vegetto God-stomps all over the poor Namekian.
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I think it's obvious for Vegito to stomp Piccolo. I have Piccolo at Fat Buu level maybe.
What if...
Tenshinhan (after training in King Kai's planet for 260 days) vs Goku (Ginyu Saga, no Kaioken allowed)
Chiaotzu (after training in King Kai's planet for 260 days) vs Zarbon (normal and transformed)
Just remember that they trained more days than Goku, who got stronger 20 times stronger and was only training alone, and even if they are not saiyans they still trained together at the planet which could make them even stronger. Who wins?
What if...
Tenshinhan (after training in King Kai's planet for 260 days) vs Goku (Ginyu Saga, no Kaioken allowed)
Chiaotzu (after training in King Kai's planet for 260 days) vs Zarbon (normal and transformed)
Just remember that they trained more days than Goku, who got stronger 20 times stronger and was only training alone, and even if they are not saiyans they still trained together at the planet which could make them even stronger. Who wins?
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Not in our sense, but I think the Omni King functions off of Blue/Orange morality as opposed to our Black/White morality.Noah wrote:Well I do not think erasing universes and its inhabitants just because something has bothered you could classify you the pure-hearted.
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Whilst being in Buu's body, Vegeta doesn't consider Good Buu a threat, whereas some days earlier Goku stated that even if he teamed up with Majin Vegeta, Fat Buu would have still won. Basically:TheUltimateNinja wrote:Good Buu vs Majin Vegeta.
Fat Buu >> Majin Vegeta >> Good Buu.
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What Base Goku did against Beerus, Ssj3 Vegito from the Buu saga could have never done it. So the answer's obvious.Angelus wrote:DBS Post-SSJG ritual Base Goku VS Manga Buu Arc SSJ Vegito (that's 80x more powerful)
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To be fair, it's Toriyama's fault to begin with. He's the one who introduced the whole "Goku absorbed God Ki into his base form" concept and then seemingly forgot all about it in the Champa and Black arcs.The Monkey King wrote:The fact that Super's power scaling is so amazingly awful that people think this is a good match-up is really a testament as to how bad Toei is when left with too much influence.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Piccolo (Super) Vs SSJ3 Vegetto.
Anyway Vegetto God-stomps all over the poor Namekian.
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What the heck?TheUltimateNinja wrote:Piccolo (Super) Vs SSJ3 Vegetto.
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But SSJ3 Vegito will only be 8x more powerful as SSJ Vegito. This match is with an 80x more powerful SSJ Vegito thoughZamasu55 wrote:What Base Goku did against Beerus, Ssj3 Vegito from the Buu saga could have never done it. So the answer's obvious.Angelus wrote:DBS Post-SSJG ritual Base Goku VS Manga Buu Arc SSJ Vegito (that's 80x more powerful)
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The two-base theory was confirmed right after the Piccolo vs Frost fight. So it's not Toriyama's fault if people don't want to get this and they either think Piccolo is SsjG level or blame Super. The power levels of the Champa arc make perfect sense.Doctor. wrote:To be fair, it's Toriyama's fault to begin with. He's the one who introduced the whole "Goku absorbed God Ki into his base form" concept and then seemingly forgot all about it in the Champa and Black arcs.The Monkey King wrote:The fact that Super's power scaling is so amazingly awful that people think this is a good match-up is really a testament as to how bad Toei is when left with too much influence.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Piccolo (Super) Vs SSJ3 Vegetto.
Anyway Vegetto God-stomps all over the poor Namekian.
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As far as we're concerned, SsjG's multiplier could even be higher than 80x.Angelus wrote:But SSJ3 Vegito will only be 8x more powerful as SSJ Vegito. This match is with an 80x more powerful SSJ Vegito thoughZamasu55 wrote:What Base Goku did against Beerus, Ssj3 Vegito from the Buu saga could have never done it. So the answer's obvious.Angelus wrote:DBS Post-SSJG ritual Base Goku VS Manga Buu Arc SSJ Vegito (that's 80x more powerful)
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But there's no evidence to support that. So you're sort of right. It could be a x40 multiplier or a x160 multiplier.Zamasu55 wrote:As far as we're concerned, SsjG's multiplier could even be higher than 80x.






