The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:09 pm

New matches (equal power, limited stamina):

- Android 17 vs. Android 19
- Goku (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arc) vs. Android 16
- Master Roshi vs. Tapion
- Master Shen (Crane Hermit) vs. Dodoria
- Raditz vs. Saibamen
- Son Gohan (Uranai Baba arc) vs. Jeice
- Vegeta (Boo arc) vs. Krillin (Android arc)
- Yajirobe vs. King Cold
- Yamcha (Android arc) vs. Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan arc)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:31 pm

Akkuman vs Staff Officer Black with Battle Jacket (No Devilmite Beam allowed)

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:27 pm

Noah wrote:New matches (equal power, limited stamina):

- Android 17 vs. Android 19
- Goku (23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arc) vs. Android 16
- Master Roshi vs. Tapion
- Master Shen (Crane Hermit) vs. Dodoria
- Raditz vs. Saibamen
- Son Gohan (Uranai Baba arc) vs. Jeice
- Vegeta (Boo arc) vs. Krillin (Android arc)
- Yajirobe vs. King Cold
- Yamcha (Android arc) vs. Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan arc)
- With energy absorption as an ability, I could definitely see No. 19 taking this match.
- Given his extra durable body and his drive to kill Goku, I would say No. 16 takes the win.
- Aside from some sword skills, Tapion doesn't really haven anything to boast about. Muten Roshi is incredibly skilled and experienced, and has numerous techniques to take advantage of. He wins, according to me.
- The Saiyan and Freeza arcs make it pretty clear that, while the Earthlings typically lack the same kind of strength as the space-thug types like the Saiyans and Freeza's goons, they have an advantage in regards to technique and spiritual abilities, including being able to concentrate extra power into attacks. Without a power advantage, Dodoria would almost undoubtedly loose to any of the martial artists who can use Ki. This is especially true for a centuries old Sennin who's martial arts style is specifically designed to be as lethal as possible.
- Raditz would almost undoubtedly win against a creature that has barely enough intelligence to take simple orders like a Saibaiman. Unless if Raditz gets careless and lets himself get Kamikaze'd, he's gonna win.
- See my response to the Crane Hermit vs Dodoria match, and you'll know why Grandpa Gohan wins.
- Kuririn vs Vegeta could go either way, honestly. Vegeta is a very skilled and experienced fighter. Kuririn's martial arts schooling might put him slightly ahead of Vegeta in hand-to-hand, and he has a more varied repertoire of Ki attacks, but Vegeta is a vicious and tenacious S.O.B. I think I'll say Vegeta's overconfidence would prevent him from taking Kuririn as seriously as he should, and let Kuririn win.
- Yajirobe is strong and skilled with a sword, but that's about it. King Cold can at least control Ki, so I'd give the advantage to him.
- Depends on if this is Vegeta after he's been beaten up already. Because if so, Yamcha should have no trouble taking an injured Great Ape, even if it is Vegeta.
dragonball0900 wrote:Akkuman vs Staff Officer Black with Battle Jacket (No Devilmite Beam allowed)
Something tells me that Akkuman lacks the raw power to do much to Black's Battle Jacket without his Akkumiato Beam. Black wins.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:37 pm

Who wins this durability bout: Harry & Marv from Home Alone or Future Zamasu?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:54 pm

DanielSSJ wrote: Something tells me that Akkuman lacks the raw power to do much to Black's Battle Jacket without his Akkumiato Beam. Black wins.
I completely agree. Considering how Goku didn't have any problems with Akkuman, and he did have some with Black, then yes, Black would win.

Here's another one more tricky. Staff Officer Black with Battle Jacket vs Mercenary Tao

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Post by Doctor. » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:06 pm

Demigra's Monster form runs a DBS gauntlet.

1. Enraged Vegeta
2. Super Saiyan God Goku
3. Super Saiyan Blue Goku
4. Super Saiyan Rosé Black
5. Hit
6. Kaioken x10 Goku
7. Merged Zamasu
10. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto

How far does he get?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:57 pm

dragonball0900 wrote:I completely agree. Considering how Goku didn't have any problems with Akkuman, and he did have some with Black, then yes, Black would win.

Here's another one more tricky. Staff Officer Black with Battle Jacket vs Mercenary Tao
If nothing else, Taopaipai's Dodon Pa would probably do the trick.
ekrolo2 wrote:Who wins this durability bout: Harry & Marv from Home Alone or Future Zamasu?
Harry and Marv survive until it stops being funny. Then they die.

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Post by TobyS » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:59 am

Doctor. wrote:Demigra's Monster form runs a DBS gauntlet.

1. Enraged Vegeta
2. Super Saiyan God Goku
3. Super Saiyan Blue Goku
4. Super Saiyan Rosé Black
5. Hit
6. Kaioken x10 Goku
7. Merged Zamasu
10. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto

How far does he get?

Hmm good one, not enough xv story love on this forum.

Enraged Vegeta loses badly, he couldn't hold that power for a long battle even if it was relavent.

If we go with the Goku absorbed Godki post BoG idea then SSJ3 post God Goku has got to be like 60-90% of ssgod red. But because it takes Goku and CaC1 to beat him, then I'd say Goku loses on his own.

I'm not sure about Blue Goku, I feel like he could probably win, he's above Cac1 and red god individually at that stage judging by how Beerus prefers Goku and 'geets to cac1 circa xv1.

If its current blue goku then I'd give it to Goku, RoF era Goku is less certain though.

I think peak Black would win.

Assuming he had no hax to fight Hit or Hit could use his powers in a time rift Hit would won overall.

KK Blue Goku/Merged Zamasu/Vegetto. slaughter him.
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Post by Zamasu55 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:44 am

Doctor. wrote:Demigra's Monster form runs a DBS gauntlet.

1. Enraged Vegeta
2. Super Saiyan God Goku
3. Super Saiyan Blue Goku
4. Super Saiyan Rosé Black
5. Hit
6. Kaioken x10 Goku
7. Merged Zamasu
10. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto

How far does he get?
He stops at SsjB Goku.

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Post by Almighty Majin » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:14 am

Spike the Devilman (BT3 What-if scenario where he defeats Freeza and King Cold) runs the Android Saga gauntlet:

1. SSJ Future Trunks
2. SSJ Goku
3. Android 19
4. Android 20
5. Android 18
6. Android 17
7. Piccolo
8. Imperfect Cell
9. Android 16
10. Semi-Perfect Cell

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Post by DanielSSJ » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:30 am

Almighty Majin wrote:Spike the Devilman (BT3 What-if scenario where he defeats Freeza and King Cold) runs the Android Saga gauntlet:

1. SSJ Future Trunks
2. SSJ Goku
3. Android 19
4. Android 20
5. Android 18
6. Android 17
7. Piccolo
8. Imperfect Cell
9. Android 16
10. Semi-Perfect Cell
I personally think Future Trunks is pure enough to survive the Devilmite Beam. No word on whether or not Super Saiyan would change that. Same with Goku, obviously.
No. 19 and No. 16 are completely artificial and No. 20 no longer has a heart, so they would be unaffected.
As long as Cell's head remains intact, he should survive... Probably... Unlike Cell, Piccolo doesn't have Freeza's "I can survive obscene bodily damage and come back for more" trait, so an exploding heart should kill him fine. It it's pre-God Piccolo, he dies. If it's post-God Piccolo, he survives.
Everyone else is perfectly vulnerable to the Devilmite Beam. Though that doesn't mean anything if they dodge it.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DSB » Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:28 am

Base Cabba vs Super Perfect Cell

Super Saiyan Cabba vs Super Buu


Keep in mind by feats , Base Cabba is a somewhat weaker than Base Universe 6 Arc vegeta , who is stronger than the Base Goku who took on Final Form Freeza in the F arc , WHO in turn was strong enough to almost kill a Super Saiyan Gohan in his First Form and kill Super Namekian Piccolo in one hit .



How far Cabba goes ?

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Post by Angelus » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:30 am

Base Gohan VS Tien (additively and permanently given the full power levels of Krillin, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and Yajirobe)
[No Ki attacks match. All are during Androids Saga. Gohan is pre-ROSAT, specifically a full hour before entering the ROSAT]

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Post by dragonball0900 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:17 pm

DSB wrote:Base Cabba vs Super Perfect Cell

Super Saiyan Cabba vs Super Buu


Keep in mind by feats , Base Cabba is a somewhat weaker than Base Universe 6 Arc vegeta , who is stronger than the Base Goku who took on Final Form Freeza in the F arc , WHO in turn was strong enough to almost kill a Super Saiyan Gohan in his First Form and kill Super Namekian Piccolo in one hit .



How far Cabba goes ?
I'm not a Super expert, considering the power scaling on that series is ruined, but I have Cabba winning both rounds. He was already strong enough to battle Vegeta, who was much stronger than Super Buu at that point.

Angelus wrote:Base Gohan VS Tien (additively and permanently given the full power levels of Krillin, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and Yajirobe)
[No Ki attacks match. All are during Androids Saga. Gohan is pre-ROSAT, specifically a full hour before entering the ROSAT]
I have Gohan at 4M, Tien at 1,8M, Krillin at 1,2M, Yamcha at 600K, Chiaotzu probably 200-300k, and Yajirobe a bit less than 910 (his saiyan saga power level).
Gohan takes this, since he trained with 2 strong partners for 3 years, and is a half saiyan.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:26 pm

DSB wrote:Base Cabba vs Super Perfect Cell

Super Saiyan Cabba vs Super Buu
Cabba loses in both those matches horribly. He's really nothing special. The best could do was rough up SSJ Vegeta.

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Post by ryan1227 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:31 pm

DSB wrote:Base Cabba vs Super Perfect Cell

Super Saiyan Cabba vs Super Buu


Keep in mind by feats , Base Cabba is a somewhat weaker than Base Universe 6 Arc vegeta , who is stronger than the Base Goku who took on Final Form Freeza in the F arc , WHO in turn was strong enough to almost kill a Super Saiyan Gohan in his First Form and kill Super Namekian Piccolo in one hit .



How far Cabba goes ?
Cabba finger flicks in both rounds. He was able to fight with Vegeta for a short while, who is stronger than SSj3 Gotenks in his base form.

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Post by Noah » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:16 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Cabba loses in both those matches horribly. He's really nothing special. The best could do was rough up SSJ Vegeta.
So you ignore the whole Base (Post God) > SSJ3 thing? Not a complaint, just interested in the way you think bout' Super power levels.
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Post by DSB » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:32 pm

Noah wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Cabba loses in both those matches horribly. He's really nothing special. The best could do was rough up SSJ Vegeta.
So you ignore the whole Base (Post God) > SSJ3 thing? Not a complaint, just interested in the way you think bout' Super power levels.
actually its Base [post God] > SSj3 Gotenks ... Thats a different ballgame

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Post by Angelus » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:34 pm

Spike the Devilman (no flying, weapons, or Devilmite Beam) VS Pre-Korin Tower climb Goku (minutes before Mercenary Tao arrives at Bora's yard)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:34 pm

Angelus wrote:Spike the Devilman (no flying, weapons, or Devilmite Beam) VS Pre-Korin Tower climb Goku (minutes before Mercenary Tao arrives at Bora's yard)
I have Akkuman winning this. Roshi found Mummy Man to have great speed, and was surprised to see Goku didn't think the same, so Mummy Man should be around or possible stronger than Roshi, who is just slightly weaker or equal to Pre-Korin Tower climb Goku. Akkuman is much faster and stronger than Mummy Man. They would make a fine battle (unlike Tao's stomp agaisnt Goku), but Akkuman would end up winning the match.

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