Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

[miguelnuva1]

Woah waoh waoh waoh... Are we seriously comparing Broly to Buu? Buu would buttf**** Broly into oblivion....

Bud Prepare to be surprise because 1 day Toei is going to give him is level, And seeing how far he ranks him in game. Never said 1 negative thing about him and Crush everyone in his path.

Who is he and TOEI has nothing to do what the games.

[dbzfan7]

Woah waoh waoh waoh... Are we seriously comparing Broly to Buu? Buu would buttf**** Broly into oblivion....

Bud Prepare to be surprise because 1 day Toei is going to give him is level, And seeing how far he ranks him in game. Never said 1 negative thing about him and Crush everyone in his path.

This Broly wank. Holy cow.

One thing I need to ask is, do we even know Goku was there at the fight? Maybe he was helping them on in spirit like the Cell vs Gohan fight. And obviously Gohan + Goten were extremely drained. He couldn't push back a simple weakened kamehameha. Couldn't cancel it out, couldn't repel it, nothing. I don't see him anywhere NEAR half of SSJ3 tier.

I listed a page back the relevant quotes for both sides. Broly seemed to be messing with Gohan and Goten as the D6 description says he wasn't bothered by their kamehameha at all. I think Goku showed up because Broly seems to see him too as he gives of a puzzled "Kakarotto." Unlike with Cell who thought Gohan went insane and was talking to himself. I definitely agree Brolly isn't half of SSJ3.

[Cardle grave]

Woah waoh waoh waoh... Are we seriously comparing Broly to Buu? Buu would buttf**** Broly into oblivion....

Bud Prepare to be surprise because 1 day Toei is going to give him is level, And seeing how far he ranks him in game. Never said 1 negative thing about him and Crush everyone in his path.

This Broly wank. Holy cow.

One thing I need to ask is, do we even know Goku was there at the fight? Maybe he was helping them on in spirit like the Cell vs Gohan fight. And obviously Gohan + Goten were extremely drained. He couldn't push back a simple weakened kamehameha. Couldn't cancel it out, couldn't repel it, nothing. I don't see him anywhere NEAR half of SSJ3 tier.

Are you seriously asking me if Goku was there, And your complain about the Broly wank. And what movie where you watching, he Control 3 SSj with 1 hand Laughing. It was a all in his advantage and was going to end it. The ball was on the ground. And Let me remind you that Blast was only made for 1 SSj2. yet it needed his Distraction+ 2 SSj2 and SSj to Overpower it. Not to mention the family kamehameha >> SSj3 goku himself

Dazienshuu 6

However, he is pushed back by Broli's overwhelming power. From there, Gohan executes a strategy to make Broli fall into lava.

But Kuririn rescues Gohan, who had used up all his strength and was about to be swallowed up by the lava. However, Broli is still alive!

While Gohan escapes this crisis through Videl's aid, Broli continues attacking him all the more. Gohan and Goten then combine their power, and fire a Kamehameha at Broli with the last of their strength!

Even Gohan and Goten's Kamehameha doesn't bother Broli. As the two of them feel that they have lost the battle, the supposedly dead Goku appears before them. At Goku's encouragement, Gohan and Goten power up. Goku assists as well, and as they fire a three-man father and son Kamehameha, Broli is finally obliterated.

[Draken]

That's nothing SPC or even FPC couldn't do. The series has shown time and time again, unless they're close in power, numbers don't do shit. Nappa vs entire cast bar Goku, Freeza vs cast, even in GT where Goku plainly states numbers won't do shit against Omega.

How do you get that KMH being stronger than SSJ3 Goku again?

[Cardle grave]

SPC and FPPC Get real Serious Get down to earth and stay there for a while because your living in your own land for far too long

1 SSj2 Wiped out SPC
2 SSj2 and SSj Didn't put anything on broly

Do the maths

A kamehameha is 2.3x of the user going by Saiyan Saga on raditz. But it could be much higher

SSj3=4x of SSj2

2 SSj2 kamehameha 4.6x of SSj2+SSJ kamehameha

Its 5.9x of SSj2 thus making it 1.9x stronger then SSj3 goku

[Draken]

SPC and FPPC Get real Serious Get down to earth and stay there for a while because your living in your own land for far too long

1 SSj2 Wiped out SPC
2 SSj2 and SSj Didn't put anything on broly

Do the maths

This SSJ2 was also stronger than Pre-Majin Vegeta probably, and still an extremely high tier fighter at the start of Buu Saga, and MUCH stronger than the same Gohan who fought Broly (ESPECIALLY at the KMH where they were explicitly stated to be very, very low on ki). Do your own math.

Fine.

SSJ3 Goku 1000.
SSJ2 Goku 250
SSJ Goku 125

(250 x 2.3) + (250 x 2.3) + (125 x 2.3) = 1437.5
1000 x 2.3 = 2300.

Say what?

And lol attacks really have no set multipliers.

[dbzfan7]

That's nothing SPC or even FPC couldn't do. The series has shown time and time again, unless they're close in power, numbers don't do shit. Nappa vs entire cast bar Goku, Freeza vs cast, even in GT where Goku plainly states numbers won't do shit against Omega.

How do you get that KMH being stronger than SSJ3 Goku again?

FPC can't take on SSJ2 Teen Gohan, SPC can arguably do what Broly did though. But I don't see the KH being SSJ3 level.

[Cardle grave]

SPC and FPPC Get real Serious Get down to earth and stay there for a while because your living in your own land for far too long

1 SSj2 Wiped out SPC
2 SSj2 and SSj Didn't put anything on broly

Do the maths

This SSJ2 was also stronger than Pre-Majin Vegeta probably, and still an extremely high tier fighter at the start of Buu Saga, and MUCH stronger than the same Gohan who fought Broly (ESPECIALLY at the KMH where they were explicitly stated to be very, very low on ki). Do your own math.

Why does this look like Manga Gohan to you, This gohan stated he powered up not got Weaker.

And your excuse wont work, First its stated they power up and second if i went by that excuse. Goku kamehameha on Cell is weak, Goku kamehameha on Raditz is weak and Goku kamehameha on Kid buu is weak. If anything since there SSJ and higher they should put al ot more power into the kamehameha

The kamehameha is stronger then SSj3 level, Multiplier Shows that. Trust me it can be a whole lot higher

[Draken]

SPC and FPPC Get real Serious Get down to earth and stay there for a while because your living in your own land for far too long

1 SSj2 Wiped out SPC
2 SSj2 and SSj Didn't put anything on broly

Do the maths

This SSJ2 was also stronger than Pre-Majin Vegeta probably, and still an extremely high tier fighter at the start of Buu Saga, and MUCH stronger than the same Gohan who fought Broly (ESPECIALLY at the KMH where they were explicitly stated to be very, very low on ki). Do your own math.

Why does this look like Manga Gohan to you, This gohan stated he powered up not got Weaker.

And your excuse wont work, First its stated they power up and second if i went by that excuse. Goku kamehameha on Cell is weak, Goku kamehameha on Raditz is weak and Goku kamehameha on Kid buu is weak. If anything since there SSJ and higher they should put al ot more power into the kamehameha

Who says it's a multiplier? What if it was additive? What if it was just all their ki concentrated, thus making the attack whatever stronger?

Yea, ofc Gohan's powered up. He was an absolute shitstain in M8 compared to his SSJ2 power.

I just proved the KMH is weaker than SSJ3 level. Unless 2300 < 1437.5 now, in which case what did I miss?

[Cardle grave]

Why was gohan in SSj2 to for to comment on it, His not even in SSJ let alone in SSj2. And why would he comment on it if his not using it.

a Kamehameha is 2.3x of the User am i correct ?

SEG show SSj3=4x of SSj2

Going by addition NOT MULTIPLICATION 2.3+2.3=4.6x+SSJ kamehameha which is 2.3x it makes 5.9x of SSJ2

What is your numbers ?

[Draken]

Why was gohan in SSj2 to for to comment on it, His not even in SSJ let alone in SSj2. And why would he comment on it if his not using it.

a Kamehameha is 2.3x of the User am i correct ?

SEG show SSj3=4x of SSj2

Going by addition NOT MULTIPLICATION 2.3+2.3=4.6x+SSJ kamehameha which is 2.3x it makes 5.9x of SSJ2

What is your numbers ?

Did you seriously not bother to read above? When you give SSJ2/SSJ's the KMH multiplier you have to give SSJ3 his KMH multiplier.

[RandomGuy96]

The day we take a brolytard seriously is the day everyone loses. Seriously. This is the guy arguing that Broly is on the same level as Buu and SS3 Goku- actually, no, it appears that he's arguing that Broly is STRONGER THAN JANEMBA. Based purely on their performances vs "a Super Saiyan 2" and an absurd assertion that the Family Kamehameha would disintegrate a Super Saiyan 3. Okay, let's get one thing straight. Broly was not that much stronger than the weaksauce Gohan. Look at the fight:

Broly charges at Gohan. He tanks a punch, socks Gohan in the face and slams him into the ground. Gohan breaks out of Broly's gold and knees him in the face, following it with a kick to the face. Broly gets pissed off and grabs Gohan. Gohan breaks out of the hold and knees Broly in the face again. Broly gets pissed off (again) and then tries to chase Gohan before falling in lava like a dumbass. Then he gets out and the beam struggle happens, where he fails to cancel out a blast from/immediately win against a heavily injured Gohan (+Goten). These are the only feats he has that even place him in the SS2 tier, and they really don't place him that high.

He failed to easily beat a weakened, injured, and out of shape SS2 Gohan. He got repeatedly hit which hurt him and annoyed him and then died in the beam struggle. He'd get his ass handed to him by SPC, saying that he's anywhere near the SS3 tier is just fucking ludicrous.

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[Draken]

Also you fail to realize you don't just add attacks together like that. If a guy who punches with 1 lb of force and another guy who punches at 2 lb's of force punches, that DOESN'T add up to suddenly getting hit by 3 lb's of foce.

[Cardle grave]

Why was gohan in SSj2 to for to comment on it, His not even in SSJ let alone in SSj2. And why would he comment on it if his not using it.

a Kamehameha is 2.3x of the User am i correct ?

SEG show SSj3=4x of SSj2

Going by addition NOT MULTIPLICATION 2.3+2.3=4.6x+SSJ kamehameha which is 2.3x it makes 5.9x of SSJ2

What is your numbers ?

Did you seriously not bother to read above? When you give SSJ2/SSJ's the KMH multiplier you have to give SSJ3 his KMH multiplier.

I know, Why wouldn't the SSj3 kamehameha not have a multiplier.But I Don,t know if toei Made the family kamehameha and addition or a multiplier. if your saying the SSj3 kamehameha is stronger then yes i would but SSj3 Goku himself is Stronger then no

[dbzfan7]

The day we take a brolytard seriously is the day everyone loses. Seriously. This is the guy arguing that Broly is on the same level as Buu and SS3 Goku- actually, no, it appears that he's arguing that Broly is STRONGER THAN JANEMBA. Based purely on their performances vs "a Super Saiyan 2" and an absurd assertion that the Family Kamehameha would disintegrate a Super Saiyan 3. Okay, let's get one thing straight. Broly was not that much stronger than the weaksauce Gohan. Look at the fight:

Broly charges at Gohan. He tanks a punch, socks Gohan in the face and slams him into the ground. Gohan breaks out of Broly's gold and knees him in the face, following it with a kick to the face. Broly gets pissed off and grabs Gohan. Gohan breaks out of the hold and knees Broly in the face again. Broly gets pissed off (again) and then tries to chase Gohan before falling in lava like a dumbass. Then he gets out and the beam struggle happens, where he fails to cancel out a blast from/immediately win against a heavily injured Gohan (+Goten). These are the only feats he has that even place him in the SS2 tier, and they really don't place him that high.

He failed to easily beat a weakened, injured, and out of shape SS2 Gohan. He got repeatedly hit which hurt him and annoyed him and then died in the beam struggle. He'd get his ass handed to him by SPC, saying that he's anywhere near the SS3 tier is just fucking ludicrous.

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You missed the part where Gohan used up all his strength in the fight as stated in the D6. If they were close then Broly should have been drained as well. Yet he is perfectly fine and seems to show no fatigue at all.

I have Broly Below SPC if we put him at his lowest point and above SSJ2 at highest. I have yet to settle on a place.

[miguelnuva1]

Guys I already told you if this is the same guy I delt with whic I'm sure it is he's not going to stop.

[Cardle grave]

The day we take a brolytard seriously is the day everyone loses. Seriously. This is the guy arguing that Broly is on the same level as Buu and SS3 Goku- actually, no, it appears that he's arguing that Broly is STRONGER THAN JANEMBA. Based purely on their performances vs "a Super Saiyan 2" and an absurd assertion that the Family Kamehameha would disintegrate a Super Saiyan 3. Okay, let's get one thing straight. Broly was not that much stronger than the weaksauce Gohan. Look at the fight:

Broly charges at Gohan. He tanks a punch, socks Gohan in the face and slams him into the ground. Gohan breaks out of Broly's gold and knees him in the face, following it with a kick to the face. Broly gets pissed off and grabs Gohan. Gohan breaks out of the hold and knees Broly in the face again. Broly gets pissed off (again) and then tries to chase Gohan before falling in lava like a dumbass. Then he gets out and the beam struggle happens, where he fails to cancel out a blast from/immediately win against a heavily injured Gohan (+Goten). These are the only feats he has that even place him in the SS2 tier, and they really don't place him that high.

He failed to easily beat a weakened, injured, and out of shape SS2 Gohan. He got repeatedly hit which hurt him and annoyed him and then died in the beam struggle. He'd get his ass handed to him by SPC, saying that he's anywhere near the SS3 tier is just fucking ludicrous.

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People on Youtube Say stupid shit like this, And You description is wrong lol did you even watch the movie ? And broly is stronger then janemba LOL WTF are you serious. Geez i just have him SSj3 tier not janemba. He would die form a slap across the face form fat janemba

[Cardle grave]

Guys I already told you if this is the same guy I delt with whic I'm sure it is he's not going to stop.

I don't know who worse you are them, Your Picture of Comparing SSJ to MSSJ or This guy thinking 3 Shoting a SSj2 is not impressive.

[dbzfan7]

This Broly topic should be taken elsewhere. Create a thread for it.

Back on the real topic. I'm not sure how strong SSJ3 Vegetto would be and if he was considered at all. History of Z can put Birus above SSJ Vegetto, but SSJ3 Vegetto wasn't apart of the history. I would also like to know what SSJG's description is in Choezenshu 4 if it has one.

[Draken]

Guys I already told you if this is the same guy I delt with whic I'm sure it is he's not going to stop.

I don't know who worse you are them, Your Picture of Comparing SSJ to MSSJ or This guy thinking 3 Shoting a SSj2 is not impressive.

Well SPC one shot Gohan Till he got Goku's rage encouragement.