Weird Old Dub Stuff

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Re: Weird Old Dub Stuff

Post by VegettoEX » Wed May 13, 2026 2:23 pm

Scsigs wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 1:16 pm I doubt that they couldn't have got him. He was still traveling back to Texas to do the Z movie dubs & GT at the time they would've been rerecording the Z episodes. The only thing I can think of is if it was a timing thing since I can buy him not being able to record from NYC since that was before they did the voice recording over the phone thing since they would've had the money to pay him & pay for his plane ticket to & from Texas, especially since NYC has 2 different airports & Texas has multiple they could've bought tickets from.
You're misremembering the timeframe here.

The orange bricks were released across 2007-2009, so while any earliest re-recordings would have been late 2006, getting beyond the first 67 episodes for the actual substantial re-recodings wouldn't be for anything until stuff toward the end of the second box there in May 2007.

GT (with the "Lost Episodes" coming last) was done in 2005. Movies were done by mid/late 2006.

It was close at the nearest point, but it was indeed after all that.

For whatever it's worth, my memory is that Schemmel felt proud enough of the original work being done at the time as it was for what it was and stated as much, even if other factors also contributed to non-availability to go back and re-record things -- that doesn't preclude someone from ALSO thinking "hey my earlier stuff is nowhere as good as my more recent stuff".

Heck, some of those citations might even be kicking around from him on this very forum.
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Re: Weird Old Dub Stuff

Post by Scsigs » Wed May 13, 2026 4:02 pm

VegettoEX wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 2:23 pm You're misremembering the timeframe here.

The orange bricks were released across 2007-2009, so while any earliest re-recordings would have been late 2006, getting beyond the first 67 episodes for the actual substantial re-recodings wouldn't be for anything until stuff toward the end of the second box there in May 2007.

GT (with the "Lost Episodes" coming last) was done in 2005. Movies were done by mid/late 2006.

It was close at the nearest point, but it was indeed after all that.

For whatever it's worth, my memory is that Schemmel felt proud enough of the original work being done at the time as it was for what it was and stated as much, even if other factors also contributed to non-availability to go back and re-record things -- that doesn't preclude someone from ALSO thinking "hey my earlier stuff is nowhere as good as my more recent stuff".

Heck, some of those citations might even be kicking around from him on this very forum.
Alright, gotcha. Another thing to bring up is that he would've also went back to Texas to record the video games every year, I imagine, so they could've also done it when he was doing those.

As for being proud of the work, maybe it was because of recency at the time, but I don't understand that. From my samplings of that point in the Z dub, he was really wooden & robotic sounding. The later parts of it, he wasn't GOOD, but certainly not those.
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Re: Weird Old Dub Stuff

Post by WittyUsername » Thu May 14, 2026 12:46 am

I always heard that the supposed reason Schemmel didn’t redub his lines is because he wanted to keep his old performance intact as a reminder of how far he had come as a voice actor.

To this day, I’d still say the weirdest thing about the remastered redub is the fact that they went through the trouble of reducing several characters during the Garlic Jr. episodes, including Maron. Why bother? They even got J. Michael Tatum to redub the lines for Spice/Gasshu.

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Re: Weird Old Dub Stuff

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu May 14, 2026 2:02 am

WittyUsername wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 12:46 am I always heard that the supposed reason Schemmel didn’t redub his lines is because he wanted to keep his old performance intact as a reminder of how far he had come as a voice actor.

To this day, I’d still say the weirdest thing about the remastered redub is the fact that they went through the trouble of reducing several characters during the Garlic Jr. episodes, including Maron. Why bother? They even got J. Michael Tatum to redub the lines for Spice/Gasshu.
Yeah. Honestly I find the product worse for it. It both becomes an inconsistent mess, the new performances making the old lines and performances seem EVEN worse in comparison, and it is so inconsistent and half assed. Fucking Kyle Hebert redubs Ox King until like... the VERY end of the Cell games? You couldn't get him for ONE or TWO more episodes? lol Not to mention the revisionist history aspect where FUNimation treats it as the "original broadcast audio" on their releases. Not to mention all the previously unused lines like Babidi screaming when Vegeta's charging a blast against Buu or Goku's stupid speech about how "killing is wrong, so now I'm going to kill you" to Kid Buu during the spirit bomb.
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Re: Weird Old Dub Stuff

Post by MasenkoHA » Thu May 14, 2026 4:51 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 12:46 am I always heard that the supposed reason Schemmel didn’t redub his lines is because he wanted to keep his old performance intact as a reminder of how far he had come as a voice actor.

To this day, I’d still say the weirdest thing about the remastered redub is the fact that they went through the trouble of reducing several characters during the Garlic Jr. episodes, including Maron. Why bother? They even got J. Michael Tatum to redub the lines for Spice/Gasshu.
That’s what I always heard as well.

Though I kinda figured not wanting to buy a plane ticket on his own dime to re-record old lines of dialog also played a factor. Can’t imagine he would turn it down if Funimation compensated enough to justify a plane ticket

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Re: Weird Old Dub Stuff

Post by Yellow Flower King » Thu May 14, 2026 5:31 pm

I was about to wonder why he didnt go and re record, because recording more means more money... and then remembered Funimation hardly pays their VA's...

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