Unpopular DB opinions

[MCDaveG]

3. I wish that Gokuu was actually a human descendant of the Monkey King, or just a strong as HFIL human
4. Dragon Ball is better than Dragon Ball Z.
5. Pioneer movies for DBZ 1-3 are the best English dubbed movies
6. I think Vegeta should of stayed dead in the Freeza Saga, and that Gokuu stayed dead in the Boo saga (maybe he could visit every month or so)

I like these opinions a lot!!!

3. This is more cooler version based on legend rather the one present, that he just happened to be some alien from race of aliens, who are 1000x stronger than humans.
4. Sure, I think so too, but I also prefer manga to the anime, so my 42 volumes of Dragon Ball are the best
5. From what I saw, being familiar to Japanese version, these movies really are watchable even in english.
6. Not sure about Vegeta, as I like him and it was my fav character in past, but the dead Goku in Buu saga definitely!
It was so fresh at the time I watched the series first, with Gohan in the opening and as I didn't like so much, he really went by lot of levels on my popularity poll
and exceeded my favorite Vegeta! Then the Goku came back and everything was same as in the sagas before.

[DBZAOTA482]

1. Chichi is more physically attractive than Bulma
2. Saiya-jins are nothing more than a weak ass plot device
3. I wish that Gokuu was actually a human descendant of the Monkey King, or just a strong as HFIL human
4. Dragon Ball is better than Dragon Ball Z.
5. Pioneer movies for DBZ 1-3 are the best English dubbed movies
6. I think Vegeta should of stayed dead in the Freeza Saga, and that Gokuu stayed dead in the Boo saga (maybe he could visit every month or so)

1. I agree.
2. I agree again.
4. It's not as unpopular as you think, a decent amount of fans (myself included) also seem to consider it the superior product.
5. I agree here too.

[Lord Eeyore Haw-Haw]

Eh, oh, yeah, I guess it has that too. And if you really care, English credits and title cards. I always forget they exist since I never found a use for any of them.

Oh, wait. I just thought of another potentially unpopular opinion: I hate, hate, hate, hate the term Z-Warriors. Not only does it just sound dumb on its own, it's almost completely nonsensical in context. Okay, I get it. The show is Dragon Ball Z, so they're the *groan* Z-Warriors. Okay... so what was this same group of people who were doing the same stuff pre-Z? Given that the whole Z thing is an arbitrary distinction in the first place, it drives me crazy that the anime gave them a name based on that arbitrary distinction. Eh, after posting this I'll probably come to find out it was Toriyama's idea, which will be disheartening but still won't keep me from hating it. Glad I can stay in the manga, where the term never comes up.

At least, though, I can take some solace in the fact that they were never referred to as that in-universe. Oh, wait. The dub did! That was probably the last straw for me with the dub, when Gohan's having his fever dream in the ROSAT, and Chichi breaks in, calling Goku a delinquent, to which Gohan responds, "He's not a delinquent. He's a Z-Fighter!" Again, stupid-sounding line all on its own, but what sense does that make? What does that even mean? What's a Z-Fighter to them? Where does the Z come from? Why would they call each other that?! In the dub continuity, do they know they're in a show called Dragon Ball Z? I have to say I actually preferred the older dub term of "Earth's Special Forces." It was still wildly inaccurate in regards to what they did, made them sound like a paramilitary force, but at least it didn't sound completely stupid on its own!

Just gonna add a little something. They were REAAAALLY trying to make this use of Z thing a major thing in the early parts of Z. Particularly, for some odd reason, "Ultra Z". For instance, Chala-Head-Chala uses it, and there's the image song "Burn On, Dragon Soldiers!" where it talks about both the power of the Ultra Z and the final showdown of the Ultra Z.

[Gaffer Tape]

Possibly, but the term Z-Warriors is not used in the anime until the beginning of the Cell arc.

[TripleRach]

Possibly, but the term Z-Warriors is not used in the anime until the beginning of the Cell arc.

Actually, it's also used in the title of the Bardock TV special, which aired halfway through the Freeza arc. But I don't know if that was the very first use of it either.

[Gaffer Tape]

Possibly, but the term Z-Warriors is not used in the anime until the beginning of the Cell arc.

Actually, it's also used in the title of the Bardock TV special, which aired halfway through the Freeza arc. But I don't know if that was the very first use of it either.

Oh, blah, you're right. I forgot about that. But I don't think it's used before that, for what it's worth.

[csl002]

This counts, right?...

Funimation's Dragon Boxes look bad. Too much low-pass filtering and mosquito noise, it's especially noticeable when you watch it on an HDTV with an upscaling player -- lots of huge ringing everywhere. The R2J DVDs look much better. I realize that Funi had to fit more episodes per disc than the R2J set, but it's not an issue of bitrate really. Funi's DVD encoder is just... really bad. This isn't the only release of theirs with the same problem, but it's definitely made worse when the grain in a grainy source like the Dragon Box masters is turned into a clumpy mess of noise that sort-of-but-not-really resembles grain. Discotek's Fist of the North Star anime release is sourced from Toei's recent remaster of that series which is similar in quality to the Dragon Box masters also has 7 episodes per disc (the first boxset also has two audio tracks too) yet doesn't suffer from the same issues that Funi's Dragon Box does.

Also, they're too bright. I'm aware of the brightness differences between Japan and America, but that is for analog only and shouldn't really apply to digital sources. I don't know why Funi does that to their releases.

I still want to complete my set because they're nice packages though.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

but that is for analog only and shouldn't really apply to digital sources. I don't know why Funi does that to their releases.

Dragon Boxes are film transfers, they aren't a digital source. Do notice the ringing and how bright they can be at times, but neither of those really bother me- perhaps having the level 11 brightness of the Orange Bricks and the blurry color correction of Kai's warped my perception? I think it's just fine for the quasi-pastel look the DBox remaster produces. Opinions thread, of course.

[csl002]

but that is for analog only and shouldn't really apply to digital sources. I don't know why Funi does that to their releases.

Dragon Boxes are film transfers, they aren't a digital source. Do notice the ringing and how bright they can be at times, but neither of those really bother me- perhaps having the level 11 brightness of the Orange Bricks and the blurry color correction of Kai's warped my perception? I think it's just fine for the quasi-pastel look the DBox remaster produces. Opinions thread, of course.

True, but film doesn't have the IRE difference either! It's only for old analog inputs to TVs, analog formats like VHS/LD, analog broadcasts, and such. The brightness boost shouldn't be done on a digital format like DVD as far as I know.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

but that is for analog only and shouldn't really apply to digital sources. I don't know why Funi does that to their releases.

Dragon Boxes are film transfers, they aren't a digital source. Do notice the ringing and how bright they can be at times, but neither of those really bother me- perhaps having the level 11 brightness of the Orange Bricks and the blurry color correction of Kai's warped my perception? I think it's just fine for the quasi-pastel look the DBox remaster produces. Opinions thread, of course.

True, but film doesn't have the IRE difference either! It's only for old analog inputs to TVs, analog formats like VHS/LD, analog broadcasts, and such. The brightness boost shouldn't be done on a digital format like DVD as far as I know.

Ok, didn't know we were talking storage medium -> TV, not source -> storage medium.

[DBZAOTA482]

Funimation hates Yamcha

[Pokewhiz7]

I'm not sure if you're aware but the last two boxes are encoded much better and are noticeably sharper. (That isn't to say that the first five boxes look bad by any means. They definitely look great, but the last two are better-looking.)

[Godo]

Power differences are not as steep as fans seem to think.
Power alone doesn't determine the outcome of a fight.
The humans got a lot stronger than some fans believe due to the Shônen factor.
Vegeta didn't get any real character development, and is not deep.
Piccolo is stronger than fans give him credit for, Kaioshin weaker than some fans believe.
Except for Piccolo, any other character is pretty much stupid (including most of Gohan's life until he started to train with the Z-sword).

[Saiga]

Power differences are not as steep as fans seem to think.
Power alone doesn't determine the outcome of a fight.
The humans got a lot stronger than some fans believe due to the Shônen factor.
Vegeta didn't get any real character development, and is not deep.
Piccolo is stronger than fans give him credit for, Kaioshin weaker than some fans believe.
Except for Piccolo, any other character is pretty much stupid (including most of Gohan's life until he started to train with the Z-sword).

I disagree with pretty much all of this (well except the second). There's no denying the steep power differences in the Freeza battle, even if you disregard the Daizenshuu (what with the Kaio-ken x20 and Freeza at 50% power and so on). And I find that people overrate Piccolo's strength greatly, while underrating Kaioshin's (after all, Kaioshin was stated to be stronger, yet I've seen people guess him as being below Freeza.).

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

I'm not sure if you're aware but the last two boxes are encoded much better and are noticeably sharper. (That isn't to say that the first five boxes look bad by any means. They definitely look great, but the last two are better-looking.)

Considering Dragon Box 6 is the one most recently in my head, a popping in of an earlier box is in order.

Power differences are not as steep as fans seem to think.
The humans got a lot stronger than some fans believe due to the Shônen factor.
Piccolo is stronger than fans give him credit for, Kaioshin weaker than some fans believe.

Preach!

[Jackal puFF]

Krillin does not deserve the hate he gets. Everyone seems to be bagging on the strongest human for some reason. He's been in Dragonball from the start practically and in 12 movies out of 13. I think people like Yamcha better than Krillin. How many movies has Yamcha been in? That is very laughable.

[son veku]

No way is Krillin stronger than Tenshinhan (has this been verified)

[DarkPrince_92]

No way is Krillin stronger than Tenshinhan (has this been verified)

Thank you. I'm pretty sure out of all the Human characters, Tenshinhan was worked the hardest. I don't understand why Krillin, by the end of Z, was labeled as strongest Human.

[Saiga]

No way is Krillin stronger than Tenshinhan (has this been verified)

Thank you. I'm pretty sure out of all the Human characters, Tenshinhan was worked the hardest. I don't understand why Krillin, by the end of Z, was labeled as strongest Human.

Because of Guru unlocking his potential and raising his power level far, far higher than Tenshinhan's had been.

[son veku]

Krillin may be stronger but
I'm sure tenshinhan's kikohocould beat krillin's kamehameha