Discussion specifically regarding the "refreshed" TV version of DBZ created in Japan for its 20th anniversary, including individual threads for each episode.
Time Program Viewers (000) 18-49 Rtg 18-49 (000)
8:00p DBZ Kai (Rerun) 590 (0.40 HH) 0.19
12:00a DBZ Kai 1403 0.67 855
12:30a DBZ Kai 1273 0.58 737
1:00a Hunter x Hunter 1029 0.47 600
1:30a Samurai Champloo 952 0.42 532
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden 926 0.42 528
2:30a One Piece 875 0.39 497
3:00a Parasyte (Rerun) 790 0.35 449
Never underestimate the staying power of DBZ in terms of ratings.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:Never underestimate the staying power of DBZ in terms of ratings.
The ratings show that Z in on a completely different level from everything else.
It's the only anime that can be that old and not only hold it's own against modern anime but surpass them as well.
It's the only anime that can be released as many times as it has and still sell well.
It's the only anime that can release a game every year with the same exact story and still sell well.
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Yeah Baby! Now we are talking! I have no fear for when Super comes then!
There's a huge quality drop between the 2 and it's very childish compared to Z so the ratings will more than likely go down after the 1st few episodes.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
sintzu wrote:
The ratings show that Z in on a completely different level from everything else.
It's the only anime that can be that old and not only hold it's own against modern anime but surpass them as well.
It's the only anime that can be released as many times as it has and still sell well.
It's the only anime that can release a game every year with the same exact story and still sell well.
Don't underestimate original Dragon Ball. It had Path to Power movie for its 10 year anniversary and the most viewed Dragon Ball video (in general) on YouTube is "No Balls" scene.
It's also 37% of Toriyama's story, it had Dragon Box release and even Funi one is better than Z, because it's 4:3. A lot of American fans love it more than Z, once they learned that it exists. Rest of the world saw it in order.
OG DB doesn't even need Kai treatment, filler is faaaaar more tolerable and it's usually just filler episodes that you can skip.
And it's not like people weren't sick of Raditz to Boo story in every game ever, they weren't buying it for the story, that's for damn sure.
Kuririn Fan wrote:Respect! I thought you're a Z fanboy who thinks of OG DB as a useless "prequel".
It's set before Z so it's a prequel to Z like how Z is a prequel to Super but in no way is it useless, sure you could watch Z without it but you'd get 10× more invested in the characters and world if you start with DB like it was meant to be seen.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
Kuririn Fan wrote:Respect! I thought you're a Z fanboy who thinks of OG DB as a useless "prequel".
It's set before Z so it's a prequel to Z like how Z is a prequel to Super but in no way is it useless, sure you could watch Z without it but you'd get 10× more invested in the characters and world if you start with DB like it was meant to be seen.
It's not a prequel, it's one story.
Manga is first, it comes before everything, and it's called Dragon Ball from chapter 1 to final chapter 519.
Kuririn Fan wrote:
It's not a prequel, it's one story.
Manga is first, it comes before everything, and it's called Dragon Ball from chapter 1 to final chapter 519.
I was talking about the anime but you're right, it was originally made as one story.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
Kuririn Fan wrote:
It's not a prequel, it's one story.
Manga is first, it comes before everything, and it's called Dragon Ball from chapter 1 to final chapter 519.
I was talking about the anime but you're right, it was originally made as one story.
A prequel would imply that it was made after but takes place before the original work. The Dragon Ball anime was made before the Z anime, therefore it is not a prequel.
Kuririn Fan wrote:
It's not a prequel, it's one story.
Manga is first, it comes before everything, and it's called Dragon Ball from chapter 1 to final chapter 519.
I was talking about the anime but you're right, it was originally made as one story.
A prequel would imply that it was made after but takes place before the original work. The Dragon Ball anime was made before the Z anime, therefore it is not a prequel.
Heads-up that, starting this Saturday, Dragon Ball Z Kai will be back at its original timeslot of 11:30pm. The rest of Toonami will also be shifting up half an hour, running 11:30 to 3am.
TIME PROGRAM VWRS (000) A 18-49 (HH) A 18-49 (000)
8:00p Dragon Ball Z: Kai (RERUN) 558 0.18
11:30p Dragon Ball Z: Kai 1316 0.59 750
12:00a Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orhpans 1139 0.50 637
12:30a Hunter X Hunter 1037 0.43 549
1:00a Samurai Champloo 874 0.36 460
1:30a Naruto: Shippuden 802 0.34 426
2:00a One Piece 729 0.31 393
2:30a Parasyte: The Maxim (RERUN) 606 0.27 339
Gundam and Dragon Ball Z on Toonami. It's the 90s all over again.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Kai and Gundam are the two shows I'm excited for the most to watch on Toonami every Saturday, it's like reliving my childhood, even though I've already watched all of Kai, I still hoping they have the Buu arc somehow when Kai finishes its run on Toonami.
TIME PROGRAM VWRS (000) A 18-49 (HH) A 18-49 (000)
8:00p Dragon Ball Z: Kai (RERUN) 732 0.22 273-285*
11:30p Dragon Ball Z: Kai 1310 0.61 779
12:00a Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orhpans 1116 0.54 683
12:30a Hunter X Hunter 1086 0.51 647
1:00a Samurai Champloo 962 0.46 584
1:30a Naruto: Shippuden 852 0.40 509
2:00a One Piece 766 0.35 450
2:30a Parasyte: The Maxim (RERUN) 685 0.31 393
*Indicates Range of Potential Values
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Hellspawn28 wrote:So how many episodes of the Cell saga on Toonami do we have left before Kai moves on to the Buu saga?
23 episodes left till we get to the buu arc
So if we don't get an announcement of an FUNi English dub of Kai to be airing on Toonami between now and January 2017, something ain't right.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
TIME PROGRAM VWRS (000) A 18-49 (HH) A 18-49 (000)
8:00p Dragon Ball Z: Kai (RERUN) 711 0.21 261-273*
11:30p Dragon Ball Z: Kai 1201 0.56 704
12:00a Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orhpans 893 0.45 568
12:30a Hunter X Hunter 826 0.40 610
1:00a Samurai Champloo 715 0.35 448
1:30a Naruto: Shippuden 678 0.33 423
2:00a One Piece 668 0.32 400
2:30a Parasyte: The Maxim (RERUN) 539 0.25 314
*Indicates Range of Potential Values
Rough week for everyone. Over 300,000 viewers tuned out after Kai and never came back in any capacity. They basically stuck around for Kai and then bailed.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
