Give me:
-Japanese Broadcast Audio
-4:3 Aspect Ratio
-Limited Edition Box
-Dragonbook
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-Faulconer Score
-Pioneer Dub
-Original DBZ Dub
-Redubbed DBZ
-Next Episode Previews
-Grain
-Did I miss anything?
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"Localized" means ported to another language, meaning translated. In this case, the set will include the audio mixes for the dub & the 2 different music tracks & subs for the Japanese audio, same as their other releases.SuperSaiyanPan wrote:Does localized mean English dialogue or US Broadcast Audio (Faulconer/Menza/Johnson) Music?Robo4900 wrote:Geekdom said an interesting thing in the other thread...
He's often been right about these things, but it is ultimately unconfirmed so take it with a grain of salt as you always should for anything not officially announced, but...
30th Anniversary Remasters ARE coming.
Will be announced VERY soon.
Z first (presumably)
4:3
Audio is also stellar
WILL be localized
Like Funi's $250~$550 Bebop sets (where the extra costs went towards new physical packaging and novelty items) which they also mandated minimum pledges for?Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: It won't be the season sets repackaged. There wouldn't be high costs associated with that, especially when 2,500 preorders are required to cover it.
Everything is worded in such a way that they're stressing the costs and focus on the physical Collector's Edition packaging rather than the costs associated with licensing a new Toei master, or production costs of an actual in-house remaster or reauthoring (or even localization of a Japanese remaster).WHY HOLD A RESERVATION CAMPAIGN?
Due to the high costs associated with the set, we need to guarantee a minimum number to print. We think a DBZ 30th anniversary set is an awesome idea, but we need to measure the interest!
WHY 2,500 UNITS?
This is the minimum build order for sets from our printers. This minimum makes sure that we can sell the product to you at an affordable price.
WHY ARE YOU HOSTING THIS HERE INSTEAD OF ON A PLATFORM LIKE KICKSTARTER?
The short answer? We aren’t looking to crowdfund this set. We feel that Kickstarter and similar crowdfunding platforms are typically asking fans to fund the creation of new content, not something like a collector’s edition which may be cool but isn’t quite the same as new content. We love and support (and back!) lots of projects for new anime, new dubs, or new forays into the North American market, though!
IF THE SET DOESN’T HIT 2,500 UNITS, WILL IT REALLY NEVER BE CREATED?
We’re holding ourselves to the commitment that your pledge actually means something and is more than a gesture, so if we don’t hit the minimum, we will not create the set.
I believe "localized" refers to the video track in this instance (meaning the title cards and credits will be in English), obviously any FUNi DBZ release will include their standard English audio offerings.SuperSaiyanPan wrote:Does localized mean English dialogue or US Broadcast Audio (Faulconer/Menza/Johnson) Music?Robo4900 wrote:Geekdom said an interesting thing in the other thread...
He's often been right about these things, but it is ultimately unconfirmed so take it with a grain of salt as you always should for anything not officially announced, but...
Kunzait_83 wrote:No matter what twisted pretzel logic you contort yourself into to try and convince yourself otherwise, Raditz landing on Earth is the middle of the fucking story. Zero context, zero setup. Its in NO way meant to be seen as a "beginning point" for ANYTHING other than the next story arc. It flows precisely and fluidly from where things left off in the aftermath of the 23rd Budokai and mostly hits the ground running from there without really stopping to look back. You're plopping someone into the middle of a book starting at chapter 195 out of 519 for absolutely no good goddamn reason, with very minimal opportunity to look back at much needed context and character/story growth.
Localized probably just means it’s getting released in the US. I doubt they’d mess with the title cards if it was a new remaster from Toei. I didn’t really think much of the word.PremiumSalt wrote:I believe "localized" refers to the video track in this instance (meaning the title cards and credits will be in English), obviously any FUNi DBZ release will include their standard English audio offerings.SuperSaiyanPan wrote:Does localized mean English dialogue or US Broadcast Audio (Faulconer/Menza/Johnson) Music?Robo4900 wrote:Geekdom said an interesting thing in the other thread...
He's often been right about these things, but it is ultimately unconfirmed so take it with a grain of salt as you always should for anything not officially announced, but...
Incorrect, localization and translation are two similar but different ideas. Translation is simply translating the dialogue into another language. Localization is a bit more complicated because it involves taking ideas that are region-specific and making them work in another culture. For example, in the fourth episode of the Pokémon anime, Misty screams "Mushi! Mushi! Mushi!" ("Bug! Bug! Bug!"), to which Ash pops in and says "Ushi?" ("Cow?"). This pun doesn't work in English, so 4Kids went with Ash saying "Maybe it's a... cowterpie!". The dubbers had their hands tied with that because it includes a shot of Ash popping in wearing a cow costume, and if they only stuck to translation rather than localization, Ash would have just said "Cow?" in English for seemingly no reason. Manga is at least able to include margin-text to explain certain jokes and phrases, but anime has to fit mouth-flaps and not use on-screen text to explain its own jokes.DBZfan29 wrote:Localized probably just means it’s getting released in the US. I doubt they’d mess with the title cards if it was a new remaster from Toei. I didn’t really think much of the word.PremiumSalt wrote:I believe "localized" refers to the video track in this instance (meaning the title cards and credits will be in English), obviously any FUNi DBZ release will include their standard English audio offerings.SuperSaiyanPan wrote:Does localized mean English dialogue or US Broadcast Audio (Faulconer/Menza/Johnson) Music?
I agree. The artbook is nice but I suspect it's just the one announced earlier in the year that's the Chogasu translation (in which case Funi lied, again), and I have no need for Super Saiyan Goku Statue #641. I just want the discs and the box!Kinokima wrote:I hope there are different price points like the Cowboy Bebop set but as DBZ is much longer than Cowboy Bebop I can see it being at least double the price
I am not very confident I’ll be able to afford this
That's kinda why Funimation have said "We'll reveal more details soon".LostTimeLord wrote:The trouble with a reservation model is that you have to be confident that Funimation won't disappoint and, well, Funimation has a habit of disappointing when it comes to DBZ. I'm not expecting anything other than the existing BDs (plus a new bonus disc) until Funimation directly says otherwise.
You and me both.Kinokima wrote:I am not very confident I’ll be able to afford this
I mean, even if they weren't, it doesn't matter. Remember the level Blu-Rays? If FUNi tapped the company that did those again, we'd still get a good remaster, even with FUNi's 3rd generation film masters (which, yeah, they have film masters already, so they could do their own remasters again anyways). I mean, come on, bruh, give them SOME credit. The levels were great & to see them complete would be awesome.jaisonas wrote:Is japan getting this? Cause if they're not, i don't see toei giving funi the master negatives to do the remaster.
Kunzait_83 wrote:No matter what twisted pretzel logic you contort yourself into to try and convince yourself otherwise, Raditz landing on Earth is the middle of the fucking story. Zero context, zero setup. Its in NO way meant to be seen as a "beginning point" for ANYTHING other than the next story arc. It flows precisely and fluidly from where things left off in the aftermath of the 23rd Budokai and mostly hits the ground running from there without really stopping to look back. You're plopping someone into the middle of a book starting at chapter 195 out of 519 for absolutely no good goddamn reason, with very minimal opportunity to look back at much needed context and character/story growth.
I'm concerned that Funi took the wrong lesson from that, where they're asking fans to unknowingly pledge for the most expensive version by withholding information from them. Like "AHA! The art book and statue means that this 300 episode set will cost $499!"Spoofer wrote:It is indeed good for fans' wallets that the mid and top tier options ($370 & $570) hardly attracted much support whatsoever. A couple hundred pledges for each, while the cheapest set got over 1,500 just in pledges (and likely far more in actual pre-orders). And it's probably a good thing that Sentai's Legend of the Galactic Heroes set is still up on Sentai's shop, rather than selling even 1,000 copies for one of OG anime's most beloved and requested series. That, and DBZ fatigue, is the only thing that might temper Funi's temptation to charge Ed's arm and Ed's leg. But it's still gonna be more than most of you want to pay, and if it's announced (as I think is more realistic) that these aren't remastered, I look forward to the PR fallout explosion that will certainly ensue. They're still likely to get the 2,500 pledges regardless, however. Bebop more than met its target, after all.