Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again

[Tweaker]

I'd imagine Trunks should be a single page, with different sections within the article detailing the relevant incarnations of the character. I might be missing out on the organizational advantages of separate pages, though, so take that with a grain of salt.

[JulieYBM]

I don't know, I think Future and Present Trunks are different enough two seperate artcles can be justified for them. It'd certainly allow for more breathing space when it comes down to the specifics of their characters, at least...

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think it would be good to have Future & Present Trunks as two different pages. Essentially, they are the same character, but they follow two completely different timelines. And yes, as aforementioned by JulieYBM, it will allow for more breathing space when it comes down to the specifics of their characters. For example, Present Trunks in GT. I dunno, but it seems like maybe a page with both Future and Present Trunks on it, including both incarnations' information and all, would be a bit cramped. And that's not what we want.

But how about Nappa? He doesn't have as much information as the other main characters in the series, but he is still an important character in the series. DB Wiki have a character page on Nappa, and there is plenty of information on there (albeit, some of it unneeded). Wikipedia decided to have him included on a "list of Dragon Ball characters" instead (actually, I don't see him anywhere on that list anymore). I think Nappa should have a page to himself, though. I'm not yet decided on the idea that all minor characters should have a page to themself, but at least minor characters who have actually been, like, how to put it...more in the spotlight, if you know what I mean.

[VegettoEX]

Individual characters will have individual pages.

We are not catering to an audience of general members that don't want in-depth information on each character. We're the exact opposite of that.

Nappa gets his own page. Appule gets his own page. Farmer gets his own page. OK, maybe not him.

[Innagadadavida]

Individual characters will have individual pages.

What about Future Trunks and Trunks. According to us, are they going to be the same character or not?

[VegettoEX]

Individual characters will have individual pages.

What about Future Trunks and Trunks. According to us, are they going to be the same character or not?

I would separate them out. They are two different characters from two different timelines.

Of course, since we can do this however we want, we can have all sorts of extra clarifications and links to the "other Trunks".

[Herms]

What about other alternate timeline people, like Future Gohan and the Cell which Trunks kills?

[JulieYBM]

Future Gohan, I think, would be deserving of his own article (if just barely), but the Cell Trunks kills, I think, really doesn't constitute one.

[VegettoEX]

Future Gohan, I think, would be deserving of his own article (if just barely), but the Cell Trunks kills, I think, really doesn't constitute one.

I'm with ya'. "Future Gohan" at least got some screen time, a different appearance, back-history, etc.

The Trunks that Cell killed? All we know is that he existed . That's something that would be worth including in the standard "Future Trunks" article.

[Herms]

The Trunks that Cell killed? All we know is that he existed :P. That's something that would be worth including in the standard "Future Trunks" article.

You've got it backwards: I said the Cell who Trunks kills, the imperfect form Cell which Trunks kills in his own timeline at the very end of the android/Cell arc. Obviously he's not the most major character, but he's around for longer than the farmer with a shotgun, and if we're going to be going super-duper in-depth and have seperate pages for alternate timeline versions of the same character, he might be worth a page.

[VegettoEX]

The Trunks that Cell killed? All we know is that he existed . That's something that would be worth including in the standard "Future Trunks" article.

You've got it backwards: I said the Cell who Trunks kills, the imperfect form Cell which Trunks kills in his own timeline at the very end of the android/Cell arc. Obviously he's not the most major character, but he's around for longer than the farmer with a shotgun, and if we're going to be going super-duper in-depth and have seperate pages for alternate timeline versions of the same character, he might be worth a page.

Oh-oh-oh~

Well, the Trunks that Cell kills also exists .

I dunno about that Cell. Sure, he's got screen time, but along the lines of that timeline's 17 and 18, is there enough to really dedicate something other than a confusing single-page-entry for him? I'm all for ignoring all conventions from Wikipedia and Wikia stuffage (since, like I said, we're not catering to those audiences)... but I want it to be coherent, too. If it's just a minor variation on the character, then maybe it's not necessary. That Cell is still Cell trying to absorb everyone and get "perfect", so his motivations are pretty much the same... it's just that his circumstances are different.

I suppose you could say the same for Future Gohan, too, but...

I say we just take it as it comes once it gets off the ground. If it looks like an extra page makes sense, sure!

[JulieYBM]

I figured--looking at the set up of the Character History section of the article...

"Second Time Machine Discovered/More Interesting Name"

Blah, Blah, blah...

"Ginger Town Massacre/MIN"

Piccolo confronts Cell, Blah, blah, blah.

"The Hunt For the Artificial Humans"

Blah, blah, interrupts Piccolo's fight with #17, absorbes Artificial Humans, fights Vegeta and Trunks, announces Cell Games.

"The Cell Games"

Blah, blah.

"Trunks' Return to the Future"

Fights Trunks, dies (only...more detailed of course)!

[Bussani]

The Trunks that Cell killed? All we know is that he existed . That's something that would be worth including in the standard "Future Trunks" article.

You've got it backwards: I said the Cell who Trunks kills, the imperfect form Cell which Trunks kills in his own timeline at the very end of the android/Cell arc. Obviously he's not the most major character, but he's around for longer than the farmer with a shotgun, and if we're going to be going super-duper in-depth and have seperate pages for alternate timeline versions of the same character, he might be worth a page.

Oh-oh-oh~

Well, the Trunks that Cell kills also exists .

I dunno about that Cell. Sure, he's got screen time, but along the lines of that timeline's 17 and 18, is there enough to really dedicate something other than a confusing single-page-entry for him? I'm all for ignoring all conventions from Wikipedia and Wikia stuffage (since, like I said, we're not catering to those audiences)... but I want it to be coherent, too. If it's just a minor variation on the character, then maybe it's not necessary. That Cell is still Cell trying to absorb everyone and get "perfect", so his motivations are pretty much the same... it's just that his circumstances are different.

I suppose you could say the same for Future Gohan, too, but...

I say we just take it as it comes once it gets off the ground. If it looks like an extra page makes sense, sure!

Confusing multiple timelines make it difficult to word this, but the Cell that Trunks kills is technically the Cell that was going to take his time machine, go back and cause trouble. Because of the way time travel in Dragon Ball works, I suppose he isn't literally the Cell that ends up going back in time...but as far as we know, his life leading up to getting killed by Trunks is exactly the same as the Cell we know. The only difference is Trunks killed him instead of vice versa.

So yeah, probably just worth sticking on the end of Trunks and Cell's histories.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Future Gohan deserves a page to himself. He is completely different from the Gohan in the present timeline, has a different appearance, backstory etc. The Cell that Trunks kills, I don't think he needs a page to himself. Shouldn't we just stick him on somewhere in Cell's individual page? He is essentially the same Cell that goes back in time and attempts to absorb #17 & #18. The only difference is that he's killed in Trunks' timeline.

I know that what I'm saying looks like I'm contradicting myself. If all that I've aforementioned is true, shouldn't we just incorporate Future Gohan into Gohan's main page and Present Trunks into Future Trunks' page? But the thing is, it's all about difference. Present Trunks has enough difference between him and Future Trunks for the present Trunks to benefit from a single page. Future Gohan has enough difference between him and Present Gohan for the future Gohan to benefit from a single page. The Cell that Trunks kills is barely different from the Cell who Gohan killed, considering their appearance and backstory.

Future #17 & Future #18 is tricky, however. They do have different personalities and different motivations, and they are killed while their present timeline counterparts are not. Maybe they will benefit from their own pages? I don't know. There seems to be too many situations concerning different versions of characters and the like to firmly decide on whether they should have an individual page or not. I guess somehow we'll come to a conclusion. And if we don't like it, we can always change it. But not too many changes, that's the problem with Wikipedia. They are always making changes that can be percieved as unnecessary when no-one had a problem with them in the first place.

[Kendamu]

Farmer gets his own page. OK, maybe not him.

I think the farmer and the shotgun should have their own separate pages. Also, a separate page for Yamucha's nunchaku that I never remember him actually using. I mean, the Scouter is probably going to get its own page, right?

[JulieYBM]

Farmer gets his own page. OK, maybe not him.

I think the farmer and the shotgun should have their own separate pages. Also, a separate page for Yamucha's nunchaku that I never remember him actually using. I mean, the Scouter is probably going to get its own page, right?

Might as well copy and paste the Battle Power Guide on Kanzentai. :p

[linkdude20002001]

Farmer gets his own page. OK, maybe not him.

I think the farmer and the shotgun should have their own separate pages. Also, a separate page for Yamucha's nunchaku that I never remember him actually using. I mean, the Scouter is probably going to get its own page, right?

That would be hilarious having a page about "Farmer with a Shotgun's Shotgun".

When did Yamcha ever have nunchaku?

[Kendamu]

When did Yamcha ever have nunchaku?

When everyone was going to try to help out GOku during the end of the Red Ribbon arc. He had them in-hand but Goku had already taken everyone out by that point.

[caejones]

When did Yamcha ever have nunchaku?

When everyone was going to try to help out GOku during the end of the Red Ribbon arc. He had them in-hand but Goku had already taken everyone out by that point.

And in movie1, so far as Sprite Satan saw in DB movie1...

[Piccolo Daimao]

When did Yamcha ever have nunchaku?

When everyone was going to try to help out Goku during the end of the Red Ribbon arc. He had them in-hand but Goku had already taken everyone out by that point.

Maybe Yamcha's nunchaku could be in a list of minor weapons or objects that the characters use or do not use throughout the series? I'm not sure about ones that actually play some sort of part in the series or are actually used, like Goku's Nyoibo or Trunks' sword.