Its' inescapable because all it has are spirits. Only in the anime had villains keep their bodies. Besides these people are gods, who's to say they can't go through if they wanted to.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:There is a reason I posted the map above. Between the AfterLife & the Living World is only Hell, and we know that Hell is inescapable (in the manga).dbzfan7 wrote:I don't remember that being mentioned either.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I don't know if we see them teleporting, but teleportation is the only way to travel from the AfterLife to the Living World.
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So? We have seen spirits in the Living World in the manga as well.dbzfan7 wrote:Its' inescapable because all it has are spirits.
Pass through the ground?dbzfan7 wrote:Besides these people are gods, who's to say they can't go through if they wanted to.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Again they are gods. How do you sense ki from another plane of existence?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So? We have seen spirits in the Living World in the manga as well.dbzfan7 wrote:Its' inescapable because all it has are spirits.
Pass through the ground?dbzfan7 wrote:Besides these people are gods, who's to say they can't go through if they wanted to.
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Why are even arguing about this? They can teleport. They teleported to go to Kaio's Planet (AfterLife) from their castle (Living World). Why should we assume they traveled physically? Why should we assume they can pass through the freaking ground because their are gods?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Isn't the Kai's consider Gods as well? They teleport to get from Earth back to Kai world. Kibito Kai did it for Supreme Kai. King Kai didn't even know how to do that. So I think it's safe to say Whis was like Kibito and teleported Birshu.
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Until teleporting is mentioned, nothing is confirmed.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Why are even arguing about this? They can teleport. They teleported to go to Kaio's Planet (AfterLife) from their castle (Living World). Why should we assume they traveled physically? Why should we assume they can pass through the freaking ground because their are gods?
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I checked the SD version, and they teleported.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Why not just ask someone who actually saw the film instead of all this speculation ._.
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Haven't you watched the movie, TheGmGoken
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?
SD version doesn't equal the movie version. I've heard from people that watched the movie that Bills and Wiss just show up with no teleporting.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I checked the SD version, and they teleported.
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Are we seriously arguing about obvious things? It's so freaking obvious that traveling from the AfterLife to the Living World is impossible without teleportation... Not only that, but if they used teleportation to go to the AfterLife from the Living World, why wouldn't they use it again to to go to the Living World from the AfterLife?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Because nothing is so clear cut in DBZ. If it were this forum would be useless.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are we seriously arguing about obvious things? It's so freaking obvious that traveling from the AfterLife to the Living World is impossible without teleportation... Not only that, but if they used teleportation to go to the AfterLife from the Living World, why wouldn't they use it again to to go to the Living World from the AfterLife?
@miguel, to be fair, third person information isn't the same as watching the movie either.
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Yea. But we didn't see them teleport from King Kai to Earth. But I thought it was common sense they did. Guess I was wrong.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Haven't you watched the movie, TheGmGoken
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Exactly, we don't know. The Kaioshin say Birus is on his way to Goku, but how would they know. Were they watching him and listening to his conversation.
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Are you serious? I'm out of this argument. I can't even believe there is such an argument.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Bye then.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are you serious? I'm out of this argument. I can't even believe there is such an argument.
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Because there is ALWAYS only one point of view in DBZ and there's ALWAYS hard, solid fact to every in-universe debate.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are you serious? I'm out of this argument. I can't even believe there is such an argument.
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So, there is the possibility that Beers & Whis can pass through ground, and travel at the speed of light. Just because. OK.Draken wrote:Because there is ALWAYS only one point of view in DBZ and there's ALWAYS hard, solid fact to every in-universe debate.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are you serious? I'm out of this argument. I can't even believe there is such an argument.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Why have forums if there was only one point of view. Like I said how would they know Birus is heading to Goku's location if Birus never met Goku. If they were watching Birus were they telling Kaio of Birus' arrival before teleporting.Draken wrote:Because there is ALWAYS only one point of view in DBZ and there's ALWAYS hard, solid fact to every in-universe debate.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are you serious? I'm out of this argument. I can't even believe there is such an argument.
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We are not talking about a different point of view, we are talking about fan fiction right now.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.