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[MasenkoHA]

I dont mind people using the Japanese terms, but when you have people on here using "Supa Saiyajin Dai San Dankai" for Grade 3/USSJ Trunks, it looks fucking ridiculous and in a normal conversation nobody would take you seriously.

Well, bear in mind that not every country speaks English and/or has access to the English material. So it'd be a little bit difficult for everyone to use "Super Saiyan Grade 2" and "Super Saiyan Grade 3". Those aren't a very common names or easy to find them.

In part, I thank Dende that's the case. Because I blame the games for these moronic things like "Kid Buu", "Teen Gohan" (referring to a 10-year-old boy), "Adult Gohan" (referring to a 16-year-old teenager)

Kid Buu, I can at least understand. Teen Gohan will forever be stupid (I find it hilarious and annoying that Teen Gohan is younger than Kid Goku even using the dub’s age for Gohan) adult Gohan is also stupid for a high school boy.

Kid Goku also just greatly annoys me because it implies he wasn’t introduced as a child. There’s just really a justifiable reason to use these video game adjectives.

[MyVisionity]

In part, I thank Dende that's the case. Because I blame the games for things like "Kid Buu", "Teen Gohan" (referring to a 10-year-old boy), "Adult Gohan" (referring to a 16-year-old teenager) and many other stupidities you see everywhere. I really don't know how and why other nonsensical terms like "Mystic Gohan", "Ascended Super Saiyan", "Ultra Super Saiyan" got popularized or even where the latter two come from. I'd prefer to use the Japanese terms over unofficial ones. At least the former are official ones.

"Kid Boo", "Mystic Gohan", and "Ultra Super Saiyan" are all fanmade terms that were around long before the Funimation dub and modern videogames. I'm not sure of the exact origins though. "Ascended" was a Funi term.

[Grimlock]

Kid Buu, I can at least understand.

I can't. Nothing about Buu warrants him being called "kid".

Teen Gohan will forever be stupid (I find it hilarious and annoying that Teen Gohan is younger than Kid Goku even using the dub’s age for Gohan) adult Gohan is also stupid for a high school boy.

Kid Goku also just greatly annoys me because it implies he wasn’t introduced as a child. There’s just really a justifiable reason to use these video game adjectives.

I have no problem with "boyhood/girlhood". Dragon Ball Heroes uses that one. We don't need to be so technical about it (but also we shouldn't use wrong terms either), so let's use a vague but accurate one and call it a day.

"Kid Boo", "Mystic Gohan", and "Ultra Super Saiyan" are all fanmade terms that were around long before the Funimation dub and modern videogames. I'm not sure of the exact origins though. "Ascended" was a Funi term.

Like I said, the origin of "Ultra Super Saiyan" is the manga to refer to Super Saiyan 3. It also appears on Kanzenshuu summary.



All these other terms should've been just burnt in hell by now.

[ABED]

I can't. Nothing about Buu warrants him being called "kid".

Except that he looks like a kid and has the maturity and temperament of a child.

[MasenkoHA]

Kid Buu, I can at least understand.

I can't. Nothing about Buu warrants him being called "kid".

He’s diminutive and temperamental. Also it’s somewhat useful when needing to distinguish him from Fat Buu/Skinny Buu/Super Buu.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

I've never gotten what lead them to use the name "Teen Gohan" in the games when referring to Cell arc Gohan seeing as that would better fit the Saiyaman/Buu arc version of the character where he actually is one there. Some of the naming schemes like this just make no sense at all.

[Grimlock]

Except that he looks like a kid and has the maturity

Except he looks nothing like a kid. Maturity is relative/arguable and...

and temperament of a child.

He’s diminutive and temperamental.

... Mind to elaborate on that "temperamental"?

Also it’s somewhat useful when needing to distinguish him from Fat Buu/Skinny Buu/Super Buu.

I just use Majin Buu (fat one), Super Buu (sknny one) and Buu (little one). I think those are more than enough to distinguish.

[Desassina]

I like to think of Boo's names like this:

• Pure Boo is the original small one.
• S. K. Boo is South Kaioshin absorbed.
• Majin Boo is the original fat one.
• D. K. Boo is Dai Kaioshin awakened.

The difference between fat Boo's Majin and D. K. title comes from his magic doubling as an evil growing inside of him. Majin is a magical evil being, written with the characters of magic and person, which concatenate into devil or demon.

Now here comes the hard part:

• Pure Evil Boo is the grey skinny one.
• Innocent Boo is the powerless fat other.
• Evil Boo is their joint effort in fighting shape.
• Mr. Boo is his Majin/D. K. self kept by Mister Satan.

The Pure in Pure Evil Boo is supposed to enhance its Evil, because he is the spitting image of Majin Boo's without the magical properties of Dai Kaioshin, hence why he is incomplete in spite of him being stronger. However, by completing himself when he ate Innocent Boo, the purity of his evil was lost and he became just Evil. Being Innocent was more like playing the role of victim. He went back to being D. K./Majin Boo in the end but was named Mister.

[ZeroNeonix]

I like to think of Boo's names like this:

• Pure Boo is the original small one.
• S. K. Boo is South Kaioshin absorbed.
• Majin Boo is the original fat one.
• D. K. Boo is Dai Kaioshin awakened.

The difference between fat Boo's Majin and D. K. title comes from his magic doubling as an evil growing inside of him. Majin is a magical evil being, written with the characters of magic and person, which concatenate into devil or demon.

Now here comes the hard part:

• Pure Evil Boo is the grey skinny one.
• Innocent Boo is the powerless fat other.
• Evil Boo is their joint effort in fighting shape.
• Mr. Boo is his Majin/D. K. self kept by Mister Satan.

The Pure in Pure Evil Boo is supposed to enhance its Evil, because he is the spitting image of Majin Boo's without the magical properties of Dai Kaioshin, hence why he is incomplete in spite of him being stronger. However, by completing himself when he ate Innocent Boo, the purity of his evil was lost and he became just Evil. Being Innocent was more like playing the role of victim. He went back to being D. K./Majin Boo in the end but was named Mister.

I think I'll just stick with the common names. Thanks. lol

[Matches Malone]

I think I'll just stick with the common names. Thanks. lol

Same here, If I try to memorize those my brain will shutoff.

[ABED]

... Mind to elaborate on that "temperamental"?

He goofs around, sees things as a game, and he's not calculating. He's very range of the moment, whatever gives him pleasure in the moment. In this case, destruction gives him pleasure. He has no other goal than his own satisfaction.

t use Majin Buu (fat one), Super Buu (sknny one) and Buu (little one). I think those are more than enough to distinguish.

Not really, as they are all Majin Buu and Buu.

[Psajdak]

Majin Buu is really the real name for all of them, since they were shown to often identify as one being, such as Super Buu mentioning how Goku promised him the worthy opponent, or Buuhan commenting on Vegeta killing himself, even though he was still Fat Buu, who is now part of him.

It may get a bit confusing, but all of Buu are different versions of the same being, with the same history.

Btw, even though I myself am someone who only cares about original version, I think at this point i is the easiest for most of us who don't live in Japan to just use dub/fan versions of Buu's different names, since, for instance, Kid Buu will always be more recognizable than Pure Buu, and if we use Majin Buu for all of them, it will be difficult to know who we are talking about.

[Desassina]

It's really not that difficult, and the Super manga used evil and good Boo at least, so we just have to differentiate them. Pure Boo is without any suppression to take from his purity. S. K. Boo is... well, South Kaioshin absorbed, while D. K. Boo is Dai Kaioshin awakened. Once the latter goes dormant, his magic shows through his evil, hence why the name Majin Boo. He releases his evil through anger in the form of another Boo, this time without the good side of him grown by Mr. Satan, so that his name is Pure Evil Boo. The fat one becomes powerless to defeat him and is therefore called Innocent. Once they become one, evil loses its purity through innocence, and the resulting Boo is just Evil. His absorptions of Gotenks, Piccolo and Gohan give him the names of Gotenks, Piccolo and Gohan Boo.

Easy! I repeated this once more, because it only takes practice before they stick, and they were not based off of nothing:

The Many Names of Majin Boo

[ABED]

We don't have to get that granular. Fat Buu because he's fat, Super Buu when he starts absorbing various characters, and Kid Buu when he's smaller and in his final original form. They're easy to remember, descriptive, and people know what you're talking about.

[SupremeKai25]

Majin Buu is really the real name for all of them, since they were shown to often identify as one being, such as Super Buu mentioning how Goku promised him the worthy opponent, or Buuhan commenting on Vegeta killing himself, even though he was still Fat Buu, who is now part of him.

It may get a bit confusing, but all of Buu are different versions of the same being, with the same history.

Btw, even though I myself am someone who only cares about original version, I think at this point i is the easiest for most of us who don't live in Japan to just use dub/fan versions of Buu's different names, since, for instance, Kid Buu will always be more recognizable than Pure Buu, and if we use Majin Buu for all of them, it will be difficult to know who we are talking about.

Didn't Super Buu consider himself a different being from Kid Buu? He said he didn't want to turn back into Kid Buu because he would've ceased to exist.

[Desassina]

Evil Boo ("Super Buu") is Pure Evil Boo's personality (the grey one) in a Pure Boo body with South Kaioshin's absorption ("Buff Buu") tamed to reduce his bulk by Innocent Boo (the good one). Since Dai Kaioshin's personality can pull his own body from within, I figured that the grey Boo did the same with the fatso, and placed himself at the core so that he was completely removed.

Pure Evil Boo != Pure Boo.
Evil Boo != Majin Boo.

Easy.

[Psajdak]

Didn't Super Buu consider himself a different being from Kid Buu? He said he didn't want to turn back into Kid Buu because he would've ceased to exist.

I'm too bored to go and check original Japanse version from anime, but from what I remember, Super Buu was afraid that he will stop being who he is.

Basically, like losing all his memories that made him who he currently was.

But then again, you could also then consider Buutenks, and Buuhan as different Buu from his shirtless self, since when he absorbed Piccolo, he started to talk calmly, and eloquently, like he was totally different.
But even that "Eloquent" Buu referred to his past experiences.

[Grimlock]

Yo, "Super Buu" does come from a Japanese source. I have used it albeit reluctantly as I always thought it was just another English term but I had no other choice if I wanted to distinguish him from the others. Thank goodness I've just learned about it. So it's perfectly okay to use that one.

Now if only we could get rid of "Kid Buu" to refer to a unknown being that exists since immemorial time.

[ZeroNeonix]

Didn't Super Buu consider himself a different being from Kid Buu? He said he didn't want to turn back into Kid Buu because he would've ceased to exist.

He did say that, "I won't be me anymore!" But I think it's just that he realized his personality would completely change. As Super Buu, he had the characteristics of all the people he absorbed. His strength aside (I'm not getting into that debate again), he had the intelligence of Piccolo and Gohan, and the interests of Good Buu. After losing all of that, he essentially did become an entirely different person. As Kid Buu, he would become a completely chaotic monster, with no reason for the things he does beyond pure impulse.

[ABED]

Majin Buu is really the real name for all of them, since they were shown to often identify as one being, such as Super Buu mentioning how Goku promised him the worthy opponent, or Buuhan commenting on Vegeta killing himself, even though he was still Fat Buu, who is now part of him.

It may get a bit confusing, but all of Buu are different versions of the same being, with the same history.

Btw, even though I myself am someone who only cares about original version, I think at this point i is the easiest for most of us who don't live in Japan to just use dub/fan versions of Buu's different names, since, for instance, Kid Buu will always be more recognizable than Pure Buu, and if we use Majin Buu for all of them, it will be difficult to know who we are talking about.

Didn't Super Buu consider himself a different being from Kid Buu? He said he didn't want to turn back into Kid Buu because he would've ceased to exist.

I think it was more a Flowers for Algernon thing. Still the same being, but a different form.