Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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by kinisking » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:56 pm
Lapislettuce wrote:Pantheon wrote:There's a heroes card with the team of three Goku,Vegeta and 17. I feel like this confirms my suspicion that 17 is gonna have a lot of screen time probably 2nd or 3rd most. (I know heroes cards aren't usually indicative of anything)
Universe 7 Screen time Prediction:
Goku
Vegeta
17
Gohan
Krillin
18
Roshi
Piccolo
Tien
Buu
I'm happy i'm not the only one who thinks that 17 is going to have a huge part this time,i don't know if Toriyama is trolling us but he legit looks like Goku's sidekick in the poster,he has a place right next to him in the front and the others are all thrown in the back.
https://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@ ... 270002.jpg
He has a big placing here too. I think 17 will do a great job and I think he'll be just as relevant as Gohan this arc. I think this is the first time Piccolo's been shown in merchandising ? I have a feeling he'll job hard
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by Lapislettuce » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:02 pm
kinisking wrote:Lapislettuce wrote:Pantheon wrote:There's a heroes card with the team of three Goku,Vegeta and 17. I feel like this confirms my suspicion that 17 is gonna have a lot of screen time probably 2nd or 3rd most. (I know heroes cards aren't usually indicative of anything)
Universe 7 Screen time Prediction:
Goku
Vegeta
17
Gohan
Krillin
18
Roshi
Piccolo
Tien
Buu
I'm happy i'm not the only one who thinks that 17 is going to have a huge part this time,i don't know if Toriyama is trolling us but he legit looks like Goku's sidekick in the poster,he has a place right next to him in the front and the others are all thrown in the back.
https://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@ ... 270002.jpg
He has a big placing here too. I think 17 will do a great job and I think he'll be just as relevant as Gohan this arc. I think this is the first time Piccolo's been shown in merchandising ? I have a feeling he'll job hard
Oh wow thanks for the pic dude ! i'm rooting for both 17 and Gohan my favorite character and my favorite saiyan.
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by kinisking » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:06 pm
I'm rooting for 17 too. We didn't see enough of him in the cell arc but I think he has potential to be one of my favorite characters.
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by Dbzfan94 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:08 pm
I'm in the group of wanting 17 to get some great moments too
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by incarnati0n » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:13 pm
kinisking wrote:I'm rooting for 17 too. We didn't see enough of him in the cell arc but I think he has potential to be one of my favorite characters.
From where was that image you shared with us?
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by pacz360 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:22 pm
kinisking wrote:Lapislettuce wrote:Pantheon wrote:There's a heroes card with the team of three Goku,Vegeta and 17. I feel like this confirms my suspicion that 17 is gonna have a lot of screen time probably 2nd or 3rd most. (I know heroes cards aren't usually indicative of anything)
Universe 7 Screen time Prediction:
Goku
Vegeta
17
Gohan
Krillin
18
Roshi
Piccolo
Tien
Buu
I'm happy i'm not the only one who thinks that 17 is going to have a huge part this time,i don't know if Toriyama is trolling us but he legit looks like Goku's sidekick in the poster,he has a place right next to him in the front and the others are all thrown in the back.
https://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@ ... 270002.jpg
He has a big placing here too. I think 17 will do a great job and I think he'll be just as relevant as Gohan this arc. I think this is the first time Piccolo's been shown in merchandising ? I have a feeling he'll job hard
Though i wouldn't put too much in that card (considering gohan has his bang)
But if it means anything guys like piccolo and buu are gonna do good in the saga.
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by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:32 pm
kinisking wrote:We might do a lot of complaining about super, but the fact that we dislike weeks off shows that its truly a positive thing in our lives. I'll be distraught when super ends. Hopefully we get a new anime, even if it's a reboot / side story or whatever.
Pretty much,
Super airs midnight over here on Saturday (well technically Sunday I guess lol) and it is the perfect top off for the day, whether it is shit day or good, either makes the day greater for me or the day salvageable and unfortunately my Saturday was pretty shit and no
Super excitement to hold me throughout the day... Though today I got the Dub and Kai to look forward too so that's good!
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by kinisking » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:43 pm
pacz360 wrote:kinisking wrote:Lapislettuce wrote:
I'm happy i'm not the only one who thinks that 17 is going to have a huge part this time,i don't know if Toriyama is trolling us but he legit looks like Goku's sidekick in the poster,he has a place right next to him in the front and the others are all thrown in the back.
https://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@ ... 270002.jpg
He has a big placing here too. I think 17 will do a great job and I think he'll be just as relevant as Gohan this arc. I think this is the first time Piccolo's been shown in merchandising ? I have a feeling he'll job hard
Though i wouldn't put too much in that card (considering gohan has his bang)
But if it means anything guys like piccolo and buu are gonna do good in the saga.
It seems like the marketing team are unaware of the bang changes for Gohan ( or don't care). Even Super dragonball heroes kept the bang for their Universal survival marketing. So, this is definitely marketing for the US Arc. I think Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, 17, and Krillin will be the main players in this arc.
incarnati0n wrote:kinisking wrote:I'm rooting for 17 too. We didn't see enough of him in the cell arc but I think he has potential to be one of my favorite characters.
From where was that image you shared with us?
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/bunbougu-shibuya/802270002/
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by namekiansaiyan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:13 pm
kinisking wrote:I'm rooting for 17 too. We didn't see enough of him in the cell arc but I think he has potential to be one of my favorite characters.
If 17 has the biggest contribution other than Goku and Vegeta then I think it will damage the franchise as a whole. As it would be stupid to have a character never shown even though he is on the same planet doing better then the other 7 fighters who are seen all the time. Since he is a ranger he probably has not trained and not got stronger so does not deserve to be more important then characters who always train consistently and like to fight.
I still think Toei is marketing 17 just becuase he is retuning and this is an easy way to create hype for the universal tournament.
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by kinisking » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:19 pm
namekiansaiyan wrote:kinisking wrote:I'm rooting for 17 too. We didn't see enough of him in the cell arc but I think he has potential to be one of my favorite characters.
If 17 has the biggest contribution other than Goku and Vegeta then I think it will damage the franchise as a whole. As it would be stupid to have a character never shown even though he is on the same planet doing better then the other 7 fighters who are seen all the time. Since he is a ranger he probably has not trained and not got stronger so does not deserve to be more important then characters who always train consistently and like to fight.
I still think Toei is marketing 17 just becuase he is retuning and this is an easy way to create hype for the universal tournament.
Liking to fight doesn't matter when you're fighting to protect the universe. Heck, the people who are willing to sacrifice themselves for others deserve it more than people who are out there having fun imo.
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by namekiansaiyan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:44 pm
kinisking wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:kinisking wrote:I'm rooting for 17 too. We didn't see enough of him in the cell arc but I think he has potential to be one of my favorite characters.
If 17 has the biggest contribution other than Goku and Vegeta then I think it will damage the franchise as a whole. As it would be stupid to have a character never shown even though he is on the same planet doing better then the other 7 fighters who are seen all the time. Since he is a ranger he probably has not trained and not got stronger so does not deserve to be more important then characters who always train consistently and like to fight.
I still think Toei is marketing 17 just becuase he is retuning and this is an easy way to create hype for the universal tournament.
Liking to fight doesn't matter when you're fighting to protect the universe.
Heck, the people who are willing to sacrifice themselves for others deserve it more than people who are out there having fun imo.
Haven't nearly all the fighters on team Universe 7 done this.
Dragon ball is a fighting show. The characters who train and like to fights should be the ones to get the succes.
kinisking wrote:pacz360 wrote:
Though i wouldn't put too much in that card (considering gohan has his bang)
But if it means anything guys like piccolo and buu are gonna do good in the saga.
It seems like the marketing team are unaware of the bang changes for Gohan ( or don't care). Even Super dragonball heroes kept the bang for their Universal survival marketing. So, this is definitely marketing for the US Arc. I think Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, 17, and Krillin will be the main players in this arc.
You just ignored 2 fighters from that marketing card. Logically Piccolo and Buu should last longer than Android 17 and Krillin unless they are extremely lucky.
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by Beyond » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:48 pm
17 is stronger than half the team already so him doing better than them won't be surprising. He might even get a power up to pass Piccolo, and Buu given Super's track record. 17 might be a big deal in Japan? If dbz was made in America. I doubt he'd be in his current situation. 17 isn't that big a deal over here. He does have some SUPER fans though. I'm convinced Piccolo is unusually popularly in the U.S
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by sintzu » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:53 pm
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by incarnati0n » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:56 pm
Beyond wrote:17 is stronger than half the team already so him doing better than them won't be surprising. He might even get a power up to pass Piccolo, and Buu given Super's track record. 17 might be a big deal in Japan? If dbz was made in America. I doubt he'd be in his current situation. 17 isn't that big a deal over here. He does have some SUPER fans though. I'm convinced Piccolo is unusually popularly in the U.S
17 isn't that popular. While I think he is going to do well I think some people here are severely overestimating how well he is going to do, especially the ones who are basing this on how much he is showing in Heroes and stuff like that. He is a returning character, of couse he is going to show up in promotional material.
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by namekiansaiyan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:03 pm
Beyond wrote:17 is stronger than half the team already so him doing better than them won't be surprising. He might even get a power up to pass Piccolo, and Buu given Super's track record. 17 might be a big deal in Japan? If dbz was made in America. I doubt he'd be in his current situation. 17 isn't that big a deal over here. He does have some SUPER fans though. I'm convinced Piccolo is unusually popularly in the U.S
I will not accept that under any circumstances.
17 does not seem that popular in Japan either and if Dragon ball was made by anyone other than Troiyama, the other characyers would be getting more fights. This definitely seems like Toei marketing for merchandise. Piccolo is popular everyone whereas 17 is essentialy a random character that appeared in a part of an arc.
There are 70 characters who could potentially be beaten by Universe 7. That could be 7 each if the other universes deliberately try and get Universe 7 destroyed.
Everyone from team Universe 7 needs to win at least one match in a good way so everyone in the fanbase can actaully be satisfied.
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by Kagari » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:19 pm
I don't see the problem with Toei promoting a character who has been sidelined for over 20 years.
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by SansrivaaL » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:35 pm
They sure are hyping up 17 for some reason, Toei's taking a huge gamble with this guy if they plan on giving him a lot of screen time rather than Piccolo, Gohan, Krillin and the others, from the pictures and OP he sure has got it better than the other characters, other than Goku and Vegeta ofc, but I must say, 17's getup is dope af.
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by namekiansaiyan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:41 pm
Kagari wrote:I don't see the problem with Toei promoting a character who has been sidelined for over 20 years.
I am just saying that is the reason why he is getting promoted and not becuase of what he is going to do in the tournament I dont think 17 has the status tbat some of the other characters do to be very important.
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by Kagari » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:43 pm
namekiansaiyan wrote:Kagari wrote:I don't see the problem with Toei promoting a character who has been sidelined for over 20 years.
I am just saying that is the reason why he is getting promoted and not becuase of what he is going to do in the tournament I dont think 17 has the status tbat some of the other characters do to be very important.
Maybe. Keep in mind 17 is decently popular among Heroes players in Japan too so it makes sense they're promoting him there.
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by Kanassa » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:18 pm
Kagari wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:Kagari wrote:I don't see the problem with Toei promoting a character who has been sidelined for over 20 years.
I am just saying that is the reason why he is getting promoted and not becuase of what he is going to do in the tournament I dont think 17 has the status tbat some of the other characters do to be very important.
Maybe. Keep in mind 17 is decently popular among Heroes players in Japan too so it makes sense they're promoting him there.
Also, keep in mind that 17 is the arc's 'Old Returning Character'. Trunks got his asspulls for relevancy in his return arc, I wouldn't write off the same happening with 17.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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