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Imo. If you're retreating then you lost. But that was apart of Boo's plan. So even if he lost the battle. He won the war.
Also Pure Boo never lost a 1v1 battle and neither did grey Boo.
Also Pure Boo never lost a 1v1 battle and neither did grey Boo.
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Grey/Evil Buu is Super Buu. Same mind, same person.
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No.18 is a boring character, both as a goodie and as a badie.
(What, it's called an unpopular opinion for a reason).
(What, it's called an unpopular opinion for a reason).
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And you guys answered it. Super Buu also had some really awesome moments.
I always found Cell really dull. He's King Piccolo, Freeza, and Buu light. He gains ultimate power and literally does nothing. He has a boring fight with Gohan. Wasted potential.
I always found Cell really dull. He's King Piccolo, Freeza, and Buu light. He gains ultimate power and literally does nothing. He has a boring fight with Gohan. Wasted potential.
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Both #17 and #18 where pretty weak characters. They felt like plot devices made for Cell just to absorb them. Why Toei choose to make #17 into a major bad guy in GT is beyond me. #17 did nothing besides kill Dr. Gero and kill a truck driver. #16 was the best out of three cyborgs since I felt like that you felt some level of lost when #16 was killed. He loved animals and was never design to be evil. You felt sorry when he was killed and that he would never be wished back to life given that he most likely not had a soul. #16 had some character to him while #17 and #18 where totally wasted and boring.Avery wrote:No.18 is a boring character, both as a goodie and as a badie.
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17 did have a personality. He wasn't out for destruction for its own sake, but he wanted to have fun. Even though he can get anywhere he wants in basically an instant, he'd rather drive because he thinks it's more fun.
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I love Broly.
I like Big Green even though its not that good.
I dont mind diffferent takes on the dubs, its always interesting to see how each one is done.
I like Big Green even though its not that good.
I dont mind diffferent takes on the dubs, its always interesting to see how each one is done.
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I think all of the new material is fantastic including Episode of Bardock and Minus, in fact I need to watch Resurrection 'F' a few more times, but I think it's one of my favorite animated films ever. I think the hardcore Kanzenshuu fanbase is just way too pessimistic and wound up, got a Power Pole or two stuck up their butts.
When it comes to the side stories of Dragon Ball, I don't care about canon. In my mind I somehow have three entirely separate versions of Bardock existing all at the same time, and I don't mind at all. People are way too specific with this canon debate, I would only really take offense if their were major retcons or inconsistencies with the main arcs. Side stories like Yo! and Bardock and whatever... really who cares? The thing to keep in mind is that they do not effect the story going forward, so what does it matter if they're canon? It wouldn't CHANGE anything.
When it comes to the side stories of Dragon Ball, I don't care about canon. In my mind I somehow have three entirely separate versions of Bardock existing all at the same time, and I don't mind at all. People are way too specific with this canon debate, I would only really take offense if their were major retcons or inconsistencies with the main arcs. Side stories like Yo! and Bardock and whatever... really who cares? The thing to keep in mind is that they do not effect the story going forward, so what does it matter if they're canon? It wouldn't CHANGE anything.
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I kind of have different opinion. I think that both of them are interesting, but they kind of should have stayed dead exactly because of that to let the next generation take the torch like Roshi once did. Both of them (especially Goku) could apparently assist them while being dead, like Goku did in Bojack movie for example, but not more than that.gohann wrote:-Both Vegeta and Goku are uninteresting, and they both should have stayed dead.
Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
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Not really. Super Buu actually talks, for example.fadeddreams5 wrote:Grey/Evil Buu is Super Buu. Same mind, same person.
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Canon is dead and Dragon Ball (especially with all the recent material) was slowly but surely heading that way for a while. No matter how you define it ("because Toriyama wrote it", "because it was part of the original manga", etc) there are always going to be valid counter arguments to refute your case. Unless TOEI do a Lucasfilm and come out with an established canon all such debates are becoming meaningless.
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Master Roshi was over three centuries old when he stepped down to the next generation. I don't understand why people think Goku should have retired at the age of 30.Mystic Tien wrote:I kind of have different opinion. I think that both of them are interesting, but they kind of should have stayed dead exactly because of that to let the next generation take the torch like Roshi once did. Both of them (especially Goku) could apparently assist them while being dead, like Goku did in Bojack movie for example, but not more than that.gohann wrote:-Both Vegeta and Goku are uninteresting, and they both should have stayed dead.
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Well, I don't mean exactly now, more like after the ending of Z, and to be honest Roshi didn't exactly have strong students (besides Gohan) before Goku and Krillin started studying under him.nickzambuto wrote:Master Roshi was over three centuries old when he stepped down to the next generation. I don't understand why people think Goku should have retired at the age of 30.Mystic Tenshinhan wrote:I kind of have different opinion. I think that both of them are interesting, but they kind of should have stayed dead exactly because of that to let the next generation take the torch like Roshi once did. Both of them (especially Goku) could apparently assist them while being dead, like Goku did in Bojack movie for example, but not more than that.gohann wrote:-Both Vegeta and Goku are uninteresting, and they both should have stayed dead.
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Marco Polo wrote:He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
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Evil Boo talked in the anime.rereboy wrote:Not really. Super Buu actually talks, for example.fadeddreams5 wrote:Grey/Evil Buu is Super Buu. Same mind, same person.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Evil Buu spoke in the anime. Super Buu is Evil Buu with Mr. Buu absorbed. Same person, only with some influence from that fatso that keeps him from killing Mr. Satan. Likewise, Buutenks and Buuhan are also Super Buu. Same mind, same conscience, only with greater intellect, knowledge, and power.rereboy wrote:Not really. Super Buu actually talks, for example.fadeddreams5 wrote:Grey/Evil Buu is Super Buu. Same mind, same person.
Fat Buu, on the other hand, was his own person, only with the influence from the toothpick making him more violent and powerful.
The real question is where Kid Buu falls in all this...
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Same consciousness, so same individual but heavily controlled by his instinctive desire of destruction, which he feared in his Super form. He is like an Oozaru. The guy, with reason supressed by the animal within. Of course much of his learned and formed character has also been reduced to how he was originally. It is true though that fat Boo also consists a part of what Boo was. But Kid Boo still managed to restore himself. More or less. Psycholgically there is not too much thought in it.fadeddreams5 wrote:Evil Buu spoke in the anime. Super Buu is Evil Buu with Mr. Buu absorbed. Same person, only with some influence from that fatso that keeps him from killing Mr. Satan. Likewise, Buutenks and Buuhan are also Super Buu. Same mind, same conscience, only with greater intellect, knowledge, and power.rereboy wrote:Not really. Super Buu actually talks, for example.fadeddreams5 wrote:Grey/Evil Buu is Super Buu. Same mind, same person.
Fat Buu, on the other hand, was his own person, only with the influence from the toothpick making him more violent and powerful.
The real question is where Kid Buu falls in all this...
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a lot of people don't seem to like it but I think this French opening is awesome!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFOvKQPk9LI the singer's voice is just beautiful :3 somebody needs to pay a female singer (maybe the one who sang the dubbed Dragonball ending? (don't know her name, sorry!) to do a good English translation
and I like the lyrics too (Possible bad translation warning!!! its from Google translate)
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
The nice San Gohan,
Dragon Ball Z z z
Fight all the baddies .
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
It has all the powers,
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
The strength and knowledge.
His father was a hero ,
The great valiant San Goku,
The world will know soon ,
His spirit remains with us.
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
Our hero with a big heart ,
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
Will always win !
this alternate one is good too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ1NcxAZUYk
now brace yourself, this post is going to get a bit more negative.......
and I like the lyrics too (Possible bad translation warning!!! its from Google translate)
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
The nice San Gohan,
Dragon Ball Z z z
Fight all the baddies .
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
It has all the powers,
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
The strength and knowledge.
His father was a hero ,
The great valiant San Goku,
The world will know soon ,
His spirit remains with us.
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
Our hero with a big heart ,
Dragon Ball Z Z Z
Will always win !
this alternate one is good too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ1NcxAZUYk
now brace yourself, this post is going to get a bit more negative.......
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Grey Buu was simply Fat Buu's evil side with a body, like Piccolo Daimao was Kami's evil side with a body. Super Buu, on the other hand, was a "reworked" Fat Buu, which still had good and evil inside him (unlike grey Buu) but his evil side was much more in control than before and the Kaioshin's influence over him was much less pronounced. So actually, they are plenty different, but even by their demeanor we notice that they are different, which is why I stated that Super Buu actually talks (filler is irrelevant).fadeddreams5 wrote:Evil Buu spoke in the anime. Super Buu is Evil Buu with Mr. Buu absorbed. Same person, only with some influence from that fatso that keeps him from killing Mr. Satan. Likewise, Buutenks and Buuhan are also Super Buu. Same mind, same conscience, only with greater intellect, knowledge, and power.rereboy wrote:Not really. Super Buu actually talks, for example.fadeddreams5 wrote:Grey/Evil Buu is Super Buu. Same mind, same person.
Fat Buu, on the other hand, was his own person, only with the influence from the toothpick making him more violent and powerful.
The real question is where Kid Buu falls in all this...
As for Kid Buu, that's easy. He is simply Buu, with no other influence, with means he has no Kaioshin's influence in him. Super Buu still had that, thanks to his connection to Mr. Buu. You should also notice that Kid Buu, like Grey Buu, also doesn't really talk, which I take as a subtle sign of both being more similar in terms of personality than any other two Buus, since both had no good in them. In fact, your argument would make more sense if you had said that Kid Buu is basically Grey Buu.
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I like the first half of the series more then the second half (Z) and I dislike vegeta.
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Unpopular DB opinions huh? well i guess i have two i dunno if they're actually unpoular or not tho
1. Kid Buu > Buutenks > Buuhan > Super Buu > Gray Buu(or whatever his name was) > Fat Buu
2. Gohan was completely useless until he went super saiyan 2 , he defeated cell and then became useless again.

1. Kid Buu > Buutenks > Buuhan > Super Buu > Gray Buu(or whatever his name was) > Fat Buu
2. Gohan was completely useless until he went super saiyan 2 , he defeated cell and then became useless again.