The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[Peach]

What if Goku was the Only Saiyan Left?

Basic stuff. Goku's pod is the only one to leave Planet Vegeta. Prince Vegeta, Nappa, Raditz, and any other mooks are executed by Frieza to prevent any kind of rebellion. For the purpose of this what-if, let's say Broly and Paragus were executed by King Vegeta or died on Vampa.

With no Raditz to come to Earth, what do you think would happen?

Goku dies to the heart virus, everyone else dies to the Androids, Cell becomes perfect, Babidi pits Cell vs Dabura to release Buu, and Majin Buu spreads terror across the universe until Zeno erases most of the universes due to low mortal levels.

Bulma could attempt to travel back in time with the heart medicine herself, but Goku would be significantly weaker from not having the experiences of the Saiyans, Namek, or Yardrat, and would just perish to the Androids/Cell after recovery, starting the whole chain of events up again.


Oh yeah. I suppose Beerus never wakes up to seek a Super Saiyan God, Broly is never discovered, Granolah kills Frieza if Buu hasn't beaten him to it, Granolah's wish (if made) only makes a little stronger than Buu or the weakened Moro, and Moro never breaks free without Cranberry.

[Peach]

What if Goku used the Potara Earings and Super Saiyan 4 against Beerus in Battle of Gods?

Maybe Vegeta gets the idea after Beerus tells him he just used 10% of his strength to beat him. And Vegeta deduces he just has to get 10x stronger to stop Beerus. Vegeta then powers up into SSJ3, tells Goku to go get the earrings + Super Saiyan 4 form, and come back to fuse with him. They do it and the light clears revealing... Super Saiyan 4 Vegito.

[Yuji]

What if Goku used the Potara Earings and Super Saiyan 4 against Beerus in Battle of Gods?

Maybe Vegeta gets the idea after Beerus tells him he just used 10% of his strength to beat him. And Vegeta deduces he just has to get 10x stronger to stop Beerus. Vegeta then powers up into SSJ3, tells Goku to go get the earrings + Super Saiyan 4 form, and come back to fuse with him. They do it and the light clears revealing... Super Saiyan 4 Vegito.

This new SS4 seems way weaker than the original, so basically the question is what if SS3 Vegetto fought Beerus, which would amount to much of nothing.

Even the original SS4 is only relative to Blue because GT Goku’s base form is way stronger.

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if Goku used the Potara Earings and Super Saiyan 4 against Beerus in Battle of Gods?

Maybe Vegeta gets the idea after Beerus tells him he just used 10% of his strength to beat him. And Vegeta deduces he just has to get 10x stronger to stop Beerus. Vegeta then powers up into SSJ3, tells Goku to go get the earrings + Super Saiyan 4 form, and come back to fuse with him. They do it and the light clears revealing... Super Saiyan 4 Vegito.

This new SS4 seems way weaker than the original, so basically the question is what if SS3 Vegetto fought Beerus, which would amount to much of nothing.

Even the original SS4 is only relative to Blue because GT Goku’s base form is way stronger.

1) Well, absolutely all of the characters from Dragon Ball Daima are pretty much very, VERY pale imitations of Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super, and Dragon Ball GT characters.

2) If Son Goku and Vegeta would have used the Potara Earrings to become Vegito to try to stop Hakaishin Beerus during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS, then Vegito in his Base Form would have been able to get the job done, as the Base Form of the version of Vegito that would have been fighting against Hakaishin Beerus would have been more than 300 times stronger than the combined might of SSJ3 Son Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS. And Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS wouldn't have been able to defeat the previously mentioned hypothetical Potara Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS.

3) Well, since Super Saiyan 4 is stronger than Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SSJ4 form would have been more than enough to defeat the version of Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG, but the hypothetical version of SSJ4 Son Goku from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS would have needed to use his 10X Kamehameha at full power or his Dragon Fist to defeat Hakaishin Beerus from the BoG Saga of DBS.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/MbMX6p3H__Y?si=YPMaFz-Av0GUBs3i

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if Goku used the Potara Earings and Super Saiyan 4 against Beerus in Battle of Gods?

Maybe Vegeta gets the idea after Beerus tells him he just used 10% of his strength to beat him. And Vegeta deduces he just has to get 10x stronger to stop Beerus. Vegeta then powers up into SSJ3, tells Goku to go get the earrings + Super Saiyan 4 form, and come back to fuse with him. They do it and the light clears revealing... Super Saiyan 4 Vegito.

1) The hypothetical version of SSJ4 Vegito from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS would have been more than enough to defeat Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS.

2) While SSJ3 is not that much weaker than GGA, SSJ3 is more than 100 times weaker than SSJ4 is.

3) If Son Goku didn't master his SSJ4 form and Vegeta didn't master his SSJ3 form before Son Goku and Vegeta would have used the Potara Earrings to become Vegito, then Son Goku, Vegeta, and Vegito's respective lifespans would have been drastically reduced. Which would mean that SSJ Caulifla, SSJB Kale, and SSJ Kefla from the ToP Saga of the DBS Manga would have unknowingly drastically shortened their respective lifespans from SSJ Caulifla and SSJB Kale having used their stolen Potara Earrings to become Kefla too.

4) If SSJ4 Son Goku and SSJ3 Vegeta would have used the Potara Earrings to become Vegito, then Vegito would have been in a hybrid form of SSJ3 and SSJ4.

5) I don't know if Hakaishin Beerus would have been telling the truth about him only using 10% of his full power to defeat the version of SSJ2 Vegeta who would have received a Rage Boost from Vegeta having witnessed Bulma having been Slapped by Hakaishin Beerus, as Hakaishin Beerus did lie an absolute whole lot during DBS.

[Saiyan007]

2) If Son Goku and Vegeta would have used the Potara Earrings to become Vegito to try to stop Hakaishin Beerus during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS, then Vegito in his Base Form would have been able to get the job done, as the Base Form of the version of Vegito that would have been fighting against Hakaishin Beerus would have been more than 300 times stronger than the combined might of SSJ3 Son Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS. And Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS wouldn't have been able to defeat the previously mentioned hypothetical Potara Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS.

Vegito would get finger flicked by SSJG Goku let alone Beerus why does everyone ignore Goku saying fusion isn't an option to beat Beerus, SSJG>> SSJ3 Vegito

3) Well, since Super Saiyan 4 is stronger than Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SSJ4 form would have been more than enough to defeat the version of Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG, but the hypothetical version of SSJ4 Son Goku from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS would have needed to use his 10X Kamehameha at full power or his Dragon Fist to defeat Hakaishin Beerus from the BoG Saga of DBS.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/MbMX6p3H__Y?si=YPMaFz-Av0GUBs3i

Super Saiyan 4 is not stronger than SSJG,current Beerus is above Mui Goku and you think ssj4 can beat him?

[Steven Bloodriver]

2) If Son Goku and Vegeta would have used the Potara Earrings to become Vegito to try to stop Hakaishin Beerus during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS, then Vegito in his Base Form would have been able to get the job done, as the Base Form of the version of Vegito that would have been fighting against Hakaishin Beerus would have been more than 300 times stronger than the combined might of SSJ3 Son Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS. And Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS wouldn't have been able to defeat the previously mentioned hypothetical Potara Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS.

Vegito would get finger flicked by SSJG Goku let alone Beerus why does everyone ignore Goku saying fusion isn't an option to beat Beerus, SSJG>> SSJ3 Vegito

3) Well, since Super Saiyan 4 is stronger than Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SSJ4 form would have been more than enough to defeat the version of Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG, but the hypothetical version of SSJ4 Son Goku from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS would have needed to use his 10X Kamehameha at full power or his Dragon Fist to defeat Hakaishin Beerus from the BoG Saga of DBS.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/MbMX6p3H__Y?si=YPMaFz-Av0GUBs3i

Super Saiyan 4 is not stronger than SSJG,current Beerus is above Mui Goku and you think ssj4 can beat him?

1) Vegito from the Majin Buu Saga would have kicked SSJG Son Goku's Ass just like how Kefla from the ToP Saga of the DBS Anime had kicked SSJG Son Goku's Ass.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/31UbejHOHiA?si=QH5tb_IFELChSqoQ

2) Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue are weaker than Super Saiyan 4, as SSJG Son Goku had lost to Hakaishin Beerus and SSJB Son Goku wasn't able to defeat Golden Frieza until only after Golden Frieza had started to slowly weaken, but SSJ4 Son Goku had been able to kick Super Baby Vegeta 2's Ass and then go on to have a tie with Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta. With SBV2 being almost as strong as or stronger than SSJG Son Goku from the BoG Saga and GGA BV being stronger than Golden Frieza from the Resurrection 'F' Saga too.

Spoiler:

https://mangadex.org/chapter/0d3fef8b-9 ... e907b9a/24

[SonTao]

2) If Son Goku and Vegeta would have used the Potara Earrings to become Vegito to try to stop Hakaishin Beerus during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS, then Vegito in his Base Form would have been able to get the job done, as the Base Form of the version of Vegito that would have been fighting against Hakaishin Beerus would have been more than 300 times stronger than the combined might of SSJ3 Son Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta during DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga from DBS. And Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS wouldn't have been able to defeat the previously mentioned hypothetical Potara Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS.

Vegito would get finger flicked by SSJG Goku let alone Beerus why does everyone ignore Goku saying fusion isn't an option to beat Beerus, SSJG>> SSJ3 Vegito

3) Well, since Super Saiyan 4 is stronger than Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SSJ4 form would have been more than enough to defeat the version of Hakaishin Beerus from DBZ: BoG, but the hypothetical version of SSJ4 Son Goku from DBZ: BoG or the BoG Saga of DBS would have needed to use his 10X Kamehameha at full power or his Dragon Fist to defeat Hakaishin Beerus from the BoG Saga of DBS.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/MbMX6p3H__Y?si=YPMaFz-Av0GUBs3i

Super Saiyan 4 is not stronger than SSJG,current Beerus is above Mui Goku and you think ssj4 can beat him?

1) Vegito from the Majin Buu Saga would have kicked SSJG Son Goku's Ass just like how Kefla from the ToP Saga of the DBS Anime had kicked SSJG Son Goku's Ass.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/31UbejHOHiA?si=QH5tb_IFELChSqoQ

2) Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue are weaker than Super Saiyan 4, as SSJG Son Goku had lost to Hakaishin Beerus and SSJB Son Goku wasn't able to defeat Golden Frieza until only after Golden Frieza had started to slowly weaken, but SSJ4 Son Goku had been able to kick Super Baby Vegeta 2's Ass and then go on to have a tie with Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta. With SBV2 being almost as strong as or stronger than SSJG Son Goku from the BoG Saga and GGA BV being stronger than Golden Frieza from the Resurrection 'F' Saga too.

Spoiler:

https://mangadex.org/chapter/0d3fef8b-9 ... e907b9a/24

I'm not exactly sure where you're getting your information from. Goku had been training for the years since the defeat of Majin Buu. While it could be argued that his training plateau'd due to Chi-Chi urging him to get a job, we see he can still go to King Kai's planet and access the otherworld, plus any sparring with Vegeta. Additionally, Kefla is far above Buu Saga Vegito. She has god knows what kind of boost from Legendary Super Saiyan, and whatever racial buffs she has from being a U6 Saiyan (there is some notion that U6 Saiyans, after having evolved not to have tails, must have some kind of boost due to being able to channel SSJ so easily). Both Goku and Vegeta were weaker than Fat Buu--or at least VEGETA was during the Buu arc at first. Buu is weaker than Vegeta, both in GT and in Super. Is it really so hard to believe that Goku could have risen in base power far enough to beat Z Vegito?

Additionally, the battle between Goku and Beerus quite literally shook the bounds of the universe. Omega Shenron, whom trumps SSJ4 Goku by a wide margin, didn't really do much when combatting SSJ4 Gogeta. Omega Shenron, who tops Baby Vegeta by an even WIDER scale. For all we know, by your logic--this logic--Shenron is probably not even at HIT level.

Can ya see what I'm getting at here? It's all kind of bunk. You can say SSJG Goku is weaker because he lost to Beerus and Frieza, and that SSJ4 Goku is tougher because he beat Baby. I can say SSJG Goku could shit on SSJ4 because he and Beerus shook the universe while Shenron didn't do jack.

Well, that and your comparison regarding Frieza makes no sense? You didn't say if Frieza was weaker or stronger than anyone--I assume you mean to say he's equal to or below Baby, but there's no evidence for that.

EDIT: Sorry, you're using Dragon Ball Legends and a non-canon manga as evidence? That's WORSE than bunk.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Vegito would get finger flicked by SSJG Goku let alone Beerus why does everyone ignore Goku saying fusion isn't an option to beat Beerus, SSJG>> SSJ3 Vegito






Super Saiyan 4 is not stronger than SSJG,current Beerus is above Mui Goku and you think ssj4 can beat him?

1) Vegito from the Majin Buu Saga would have kicked SSJG Son Goku's Ass just like how Kefla from the ToP Saga of the DBS Anime had kicked SSJG Son Goku's Ass.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/31UbejHOHiA?si=QH5tb_IFELChSqoQ

2) Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue are weaker than Super Saiyan 4, as SSJG Son Goku had lost to Hakaishin Beerus and SSJB Son Goku wasn't able to defeat Golden Frieza until only after Golden Frieza had started to slowly weaken, but SSJ4 Son Goku had been able to kick Super Baby Vegeta 2's Ass and then go on to have a tie with Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta. With SBV2 being almost as strong as or stronger than SSJG Son Goku from the BoG Saga and GGA BV being stronger than Golden Frieza from the Resurrection 'F' Saga too.

Spoiler:

https://mangadex.org/chapter/0d3fef8b-9 ... e907b9a/24

I'm not exactly sure where you're getting your information from. Goku had been training for the years since the defeat of Majin Buu. While it could be argued that his training plateau'd due to Chi-Chi urging him to get a job, we see he can still go to King Kai's planet and access the otherworld, plus any sparring with Vegeta. Additionally, Kefla is far above Buu Saga Vegito. She has god knows what kind of boost from Legendary Super Saiyan, and whatever racial buffs she has from being a U6 Saiyan (there is some notion that U6 Saiyans, after having evolved not to have tails, must have some kind of boost due to being able to channel SSJ so easily). Both Goku and Vegeta were weaker than Fat Buu--or at least VEGETA was during the Buu arc at first. Buu is weaker than Vegeta, both in GT and in Super. Is it really so hard to believe that Goku could have risen in base power far enough to beat Z Vegito?

Additionally, the battle between Goku and Beerus quite literally shook the bounds of the universe. Omega Shenron, whom trumps SSJ4 Goku by a wide margin, didn't really do much when combatting SSJ4 Gogeta. Omega Shenron, who tops Baby Vegeta by an even WIDER scale. For all we know, by your logic--this logic--Shenron is probably not even at HIT level.

Can ya see what I'm getting at here? It's all kind of bunk. You can say SSJG Goku is weaker because he lost to Beerus and Frieza, and that SSJ4 Goku is tougher because he beat Baby. I can say SSJG Goku could shit on SSJ4 because he and Beerus shook the universe while Shenron didn't do jack.

Well, that and your comparison regarding Frieza makes no sense? You didn't say if Frieza was weaker or stronger than anyone--I assume you mean to say he's equal to or below Baby, but there's no evidence for that.

EDIT: Sorry, you're using Dragon Ball Legends and a non-canon manga as evidence? That's WORSE than bunk.

Dragon Ball Super takes place several years before Dragon Ball GT, absolutely all of the characters from DBS are overrated fifth-rate knock-offs of other Fictional characters, and the Dragon Ball Legends Mobile Game and the Super Dragon Ball Heroes Manga are official and canon. But DBL and the SDBH Manga simply take place in one or more alternate versions of the original Dragon Ball Manga kind of like how DBS and Dragon Ball Daima are pretty much different versions of the original DB Manga too.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/MbMX6p3H__Y?si=e3rB_WYMJpcxH6pK

[SonTao]

1) Vegito from the Majin Buu Saga would have kicked SSJG Son Goku's Ass just like how Kefla from the ToP Saga of the DBS Anime had kicked SSJG Son Goku's Ass.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/31UbejHOHiA?si=QH5tb_IFELChSqoQ

2) Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue are weaker than Super Saiyan 4, as SSJG Son Goku had lost to Hakaishin Beerus and SSJB Son Goku wasn't able to defeat Golden Frieza until only after Golden Frieza had started to slowly weaken, but SSJ4 Son Goku had been able to kick Super Baby Vegeta 2's Ass and then go on to have a tie with Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta. With SBV2 being almost as strong as or stronger than SSJG Son Goku from the BoG Saga and GGA BV being stronger than Golden Frieza from the Resurrection 'F' Saga too.

Spoiler:

https://mangadex.org/chapter/0d3fef8b-9 ... e907b9a/24

I'm not exactly sure where you're getting your information from. Goku had been training for the years since the defeat of Majin Buu. While it could be argued that his training plateau'd due to Chi-Chi urging him to get a job, we see he can still go to King Kai's planet and access the otherworld, plus any sparring with Vegeta. Additionally, Kefla is far above Buu Saga Vegito. She has god knows what kind of boost from Legendary Super Saiyan, and whatever racial buffs she has from being a U6 Saiyan (there is some notion that U6 Saiyans, after having evolved not to have tails, must have some kind of boost due to being able to channel SSJ so easily). Both Goku and Vegeta were weaker than Fat Buu--or at least VEGETA was during the Buu arc at first. Buu is weaker than Vegeta, both in GT and in Super. Is it really so hard to believe that Goku could have risen in base power far enough to beat Z Vegito?

Additionally, the battle between Goku and Beerus quite literally shook the bounds of the universe. Omega Shenron, whom trumps SSJ4 Goku by a wide margin, didn't really do much when combatting SSJ4 Gogeta. Omega Shenron, who tops Baby Vegeta by an even WIDER scale. For all we know, by your logic--this logic--Shenron is probably not even at HIT level.

Can ya see what I'm getting at here? It's all kind of bunk. You can say SSJG Goku is weaker because he lost to Beerus and Frieza, and that SSJ4 Goku is tougher because he beat Baby. I can say SSJG Goku could shit on SSJ4 because he and Beerus shook the universe while Shenron didn't do jack.

Well, that and your comparison regarding Frieza makes no sense? You didn't say if Frieza was weaker or stronger than anyone--I assume you mean to say he's equal to or below Baby, but there's no evidence for that.

EDIT: Sorry, you're using Dragon Ball Legends and a non-canon manga as evidence? That's WORSE than bunk.

Dragon Ball Super takes place several years before Dragon Ball GT, absolutely all of the characters from DBS are overrated fifth-rate knock-offs of other Fictional characters, and the Dragon Ball Legends Mobile Game and the Super Dragon Ball Heroes Manga are official and canon. But DBL and the SDBH Manga simply take place in one or more alternate versions of the original Dragon Ball Manga kind of like how DBS and Dragon Ball Daima are pretty much different versions of the original DB Manga too.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/MbMX6p3H__Y?si=e3rB_WYMJpcxH6pK

Ooooh, I get it now--you only consider it canon because SSJ4 is in it! That's fair enough I guess for a favoritism argument. And what do you mean they're fifth rate knock offs of other characters...? So is Frieza a knockoff of a Xenomorph because he looks like one in his third form? Or a knockoff of insert sci fi guy here because he's space Napoleon? News flash, inspiration exists. Who do you think GOKU is inspired by. Your argument makes no sense, you're entirely convinced SSJ4 is tougher just because you're a GT glazer.

I will say I agree on the alternate timeline stuff... but not to Legends being canon. That's like saying Xenoverse or Dragon Ball Online are canon to Z or the Manga. You're losin' me here, dude.

(Making an edit here--I am a GT fan btw)

[Steven Bloodriver]

I'm not exactly sure where you're getting your information from. Goku had been training for the years since the defeat of Majin Buu. While it could be argued that his training plateau'd due to Chi-Chi urging him to get a job, we see he can still go to King Kai's planet and access the otherworld, plus any sparring with Vegeta. Additionally, Kefla is far above Buu Saga Vegito. She has god knows what kind of boost from Legendary Super Saiyan, and whatever racial buffs she has from being a U6 Saiyan (there is some notion that U6 Saiyans, after having evolved not to have tails, must have some kind of boost due to being able to channel SSJ so easily). Both Goku and Vegeta were weaker than Fat Buu--or at least VEGETA was during the Buu arc at first. Buu is weaker than Vegeta, both in GT and in Super. Is it really so hard to believe that Goku could have risen in base power far enough to beat Z Vegito?

Additionally, the battle between Goku and Beerus quite literally shook the bounds of the universe. Omega Shenron, whom trumps SSJ4 Goku by a wide margin, didn't really do much when combatting SSJ4 Gogeta. Omega Shenron, who tops Baby Vegeta by an even WIDER scale. For all we know, by your logic--this logic--Shenron is probably not even at HIT level.

Can ya see what I'm getting at here? It's all kind of bunk. You can say SSJG Goku is weaker because he lost to Beerus and Frieza, and that SSJ4 Goku is tougher because he beat Baby. I can say SSJG Goku could shit on SSJ4 because he and Beerus shook the universe while Shenron didn't do jack.

Well, that and your comparison regarding Frieza makes no sense? You didn't say if Frieza was weaker or stronger than anyone--I assume you mean to say he's equal to or below Baby, but there's no evidence for that.

EDIT: Sorry, you're using Dragon Ball Legends and a non-canon manga as evidence? That's WORSE than bunk.

Dragon Ball Super takes place several years before Dragon Ball GT, absolutely all of the characters from DBS are overrated fifth-rate knock-offs of other Fictional characters, and the Dragon Ball Legends Mobile Game and the Super Dragon Ball Heroes Manga are official and canon. But DBL and the SDBH Manga simply take place in one or more alternate versions of the original Dragon Ball Manga kind of like how DBS and Dragon Ball Daima are pretty much different versions of the original DB Manga too.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/MbMX6p3H__Y?si=e3rB_WYMJpcxH6pK

Ooooh, I get it now--you only consider it canon because SSJ4 is in it! That's fair enough I guess for a favoritism argument. And what do you mean they're fifth rate knock offs of other characters...? So is Frieza a knockoff of a Xenomorph because he looks like one in his third form? Or a knockoff of insert sci fi guy here because he's space Napoleon? News flash, inspiration exists. Who do you think GOKU is inspired by. Your argument makes no sense, you're entirely convinced SSJ4 is tougher just because you're a GT glazer.

I will say I agree on the alternate timeline stuff... but not to Legends being canon. That's like saying Xenoverse or Dragon Ball Online are canon to Z or the Manga. You're losin' me here, dude.

(Making an edit here--I am a GT fan btw)

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/h0uqjBDOy8o?si=7O40BhpOfGFhiNrE

[SonTao]

What if Goku used the Potara Earings and Super Saiyan 4 against Beerus in Battle of Gods?

Maybe Vegeta gets the idea after Beerus tells him he just used 10% of his strength to beat him. And Vegeta deduces he just has to get 10x stronger to stop Beerus. Vegeta then powers up into SSJ3, tells Goku to go get the earrings + Super Saiyan 4 form, and come back to fuse with him. They do it and the light clears revealing... Super Saiyan 4 Vegito.

It'd probably be a decent enough battle, maybe push Beerus as hard if not a little harder than SSG Goku did in the original. Beerus still stomps, but he'd get the idea to drag them to his planet way sooner. It might lead to SSG not getting discovered which will make things absurdly harder in the long run regarding God ki and combatting individuals such as Hit and co without the needed power boosts. But I'm sure that the God ki they assimilate from Beerus would give them a decent enough edge. Hell, might be possible to stack God on top of SSJ4.

[Hellspawn28]

What if Glorio stay with Goku and the others after Daima? How would he do in Super?

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if Glorio stay with Goku and the others after Daima? How would he do in Super?

Well, since Zamasu hates inhabitants from the Dark Demon Realm, I think that Zamasu might have personally went after Glorio and the absolute rest of the inhabitants from the Dark Demon Realm not too long after Zamasu would have found out about what had happened during the events of Dragon Ball Daima from Shin and/or someone else from Universe 7.

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/epsZd7Zb8Hs?si=U_Oihu-l6ujCRsV4

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if Bardock had sent Gine and Kakarot to the Planet Earth in the same Attack Ball that Kakarot had been in when he was sent to the Planet Earth in canon and then Gine and Kakarot had went to live with Grandpa Gohan on Mount Paozu?

[SonTao]

What if Bardock had sent Gine and Kakarot to the Planet Earth in the same Attack Ball that Kakarot had been in when he was sent to the Planet Earth in canon and then Gine and Kakarot had went to live with Grandpa Gohan on Mount Paozu?

MasakoX makes a pretty good what if about this. But in my opinion...

Gine and Kakarot would probably stay with Grandpa Gohan for a while. Gine is pretty buff and would absolutely protect Earth when needed, buuuut... likely not gonna factor in a whole awful lot after the King Piccolo saga. Her whole shtick was not exactly wanting to fight. Sure, she'd probably train to fight the Saiyans, but if Kakarot and co can handle things, she'd likely take a step back. Gine wanted her kids to live a good life and protect them, yes, but I don't think she'd extend so far as to be a major warrior again after the Saiyan / Namek Saga.

Best case, she'd be a Super Saiyan or more mid Cell Saga. After that, she's everyone's chill grandma.

[Hellspawn28]

Had Goku use SSj4 (Toriyama version) against Buuhan, how strong would he be?

[TobyS]

Had Goku use SSj4 (Toriyama version) against Buuhan, how strong would he be?

Not strong enough he's still weaker than ultimate gohan.
He'd thrash kid boo and fat boo boo but that's it.
Maybe he could take base super boo or buucollo but that's a highball.

[Super-Shenron]

Had Goku use SSj4 (Toriyama version) against Buuhan, how strong would he be?

While Boohan is stronger than Goku, he isn't to the point a whole transformation wouldn't change anything, especially if you go by the fact BoG and Super established him as the strongest Z-Fighter.

Goku stomps.

[Yuji]

What if Vegeta didn't kill Nappa?

Scenario 1: Vegeta leaves Nappa on the battlefield. Does Kuririn kill him or does Goku let him heal?

Scenario 2: Vegeta calls Nappa's pod before fighting Goku and Nappa is sent off to a Freeza planet for healing