The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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Who is the strongest that a Orange Piccolo Daimao could beat?
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Let's see.Hellspawn28 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:24 am Who is the strongest that a Orange Piccolo Daimao could beat?
My current multiplier for MUI is 100,000,000 base and let's be generous and have Piccolo be in between base and SS tier by the movie (He's base tier at the ToP).
That would give us a multiplier of 4,000,000 and make Daimao have a BP of 1,040,000,000. Enough to beat SSG2 Vegeta and everyone below him.
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Moro arc Boo runs a gauntlet.
1. Boo arc Ultimate Gohan
2. Super Boo Gohan
3. Boo arc SS Vegetto
4. BoG SSG Goku
5. RF Golden Freeza
6. SSR Goku Black
1. Boo arc Ultimate Gohan
2. Super Boo Gohan
3. Boo arc SS Vegetto
4. BoG SSG Goku
5. RF Golden Freeza
6. SSR Goku Black
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I don't recall exactly how strong he was, but he had Moro pinned down. A Moro stronger than his previous senior self, which was weaker than SSG but with his magic he was able to force god into SSB. I'd say Rejuvenated Moro should be SSG tier at least, without his magic. Buu was stronger than that, but probably not quite SSB tier. Goku said with SSB they'd be able to beat the Moro that beat Buu.Yuji wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:11 am Moro arc Boo runs a gauntlet.
1. Boo arc Ultimate Gohan
2. Super Boo Gohan
3. Boo arc SS Vegetto
4. BoG SSG Goku
5. RF Golden Freeza
6. SSR Goku Black
1) So, Buu should destroy Ultimate Gohan without breaking a sweat.
2) Same for Buuhan.
3) I guess here's where things aren't as easy for Buu, but still not a problem. Like a walk in the park but with some gunshots in the background.
4) He's definitely beating SSG Goku, he should do the same to a Moro arc SSG Goku.
5) This should be too much. I don't think the growth during the first half of DBS was big enough for SSG to challenge SSB. Against Golden Freeza, with his hax and all he probably can last more than other people on his tier, but shouldn't be even close to winning. I also don't think the Golden's drain could become a problem against somebody from a lower tier. Buu should take a beating worse than vs Kid Buu.
6) Black should beat Buu as easily as Vegito beat Buuhan. But with less flair and more murder.
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SSj3 DBZ Vegito vs. Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta
If DBZ Vegito is claim to be stronger than SSj4 Goku, I wonder if SSj3 would be enough to win?
If DBZ Vegito is claim to be stronger than SSj4 Goku, I wonder if SSj3 would be enough to win?
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Orange probably has a multiplier comparable to UI. I think 25,000,000x is a good multiplier: 400x for SSJ3, then 10x for SSJG, 50x for SSJB (Already at 200,000x which is Ultimate Piccolo's level) then I think Sign is another 50x (10,000,000x base) and MUI/Orange form only needs to be 2-2.5x over that.Hellspawn28 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:24 am Who is the strongest that a Orange Piccolo Daimao could beat?
260x25,000,000 = 6.5 billion. Slightly stronger Boo Saga SSJ2 Gohan and Dabra. Gohan loses since he sucks, but Piccolo vs Dabra would be interesting to see who's the real demon king. My money's on Dabra since he has more abilities and isn't as arrogant.
Moro at his weakest was SSJG level, so Boo no diffs the first 3 fights. Boo is probably on the bottom of SSJB level, so I think he can beat Golden Freeza. Not sure about Goku Black, but Boo's magic and regeneration can probably circumvent any power disvantages.Yuji wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:11 am Moro arc Boo runs a gauntlet.
1. Boo arc Ultimate Gohan
2. Super Boo Gohan
3. Boo arc SS Vegetto
4. BoG SSG Goku
5. RF Golden Freeza
6. SSR Goku Black
Baby Vegeta. Super Baby Vegeta (Can't remember if it was 1 or 2) was the strongest Ki Goku'd ever felt, and Golden Oozaru was at least 10x that. So Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta was over 10x Super Vegetto, SSJ3 being a mere 8x boost isn't nearly enough for Vegetto to catch up.Hellspawn28 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:12 pm SSj3 DBZ Vegito vs. Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta
If DBZ Vegito is claim to be stronger than SSj4 Goku, I wonder if SSj3 would be enough to win?
Most people take that Vegetto ~ SSJ4 statement as a comparison of the power boosts. SSJ4 Goku in the Boo Saga would've been as strong as Super Vegetto, and a mid GT Super Vegetto would've been SSJ4 Goku level.
If it involves power levels, then the power levels thread. Plus that thread is in the fan works section, which is where OC should go.FPSSJ4_Goku wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:36 pm I'm planning on making a list of power levels for my OCs; should I post them here or in the power level thread
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I think the Perfect files is referencing Super Vegetto, as SS3 is nothing more than a hypothetical. SS would b enough.Hellspawn28 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:12 pm SSj3 DBZ Vegito vs. Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta
If DBZ Vegito is claim to be stronger than SSj4 Goku, I wonder if SSj3 would be enough to win?
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Broly's only chance is going Super Saiyan full power and that's still up the air because Piccolo's skill would definitely give him some extra boost. If Orange Piccolo can pull the Frost Makankosappo strategy then Broly is super dead.
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Broly is at the very least a measure stick for Cell Max, so in raw power he should be strong enough to fight Orange Piccolo. Piccolo's skill in battle should help him get the win though.
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Who is the strongest character in Super that Omega Shenron can beat?
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Straight-up? If we give GT the benefit of the doubt in the form of how it's being compared to Super in games and Heroes... regular Omega would cap, imo, at somewhere between SS Broly (BR) and Corrupted Merged Zamasu.XenoSaiyan wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:01 pm Who is the strongest character in Super that Omega Shenron can beat?
Basically he would be stronger than SSB Goku and Vegeta but would be just as helpless against SSB Vegito/Gogeta as he was against SS4 Gogeta.
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Initial Fused Zamasu, maybe.XenoSaiyan wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:01 pm Who is the strongest character in Super that Omega Shenron can beat?
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Power scaling between Super and GT is tricky to do with them being their own continuity. I have no idea how to power scale him.XenoSaiyan wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:01 pm Who is the strongest character in Super that Omega Shenron can beat?
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Who is the toughest opponent this guy can beat in DB/DBZ?


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Anime: Piccolo can beat Ikari Broly easily, but would be on the ropes against SSJ Broly. It's a big difference, but Piccolo is good enough that he could keep up and maybe win with a Makkankosappo. If Broly goes LSSJ, Piccolo is cheetos dust.
Manga: We don't know yet, but as of right now Piccolo probably stomps. He's (True?) UI level: The same level Moro broke his hand punching.
Going by Heroes, Post ToP SSJB is comparable to Ultra Full Power SSJ4. Yi Xing Long got 10x stronger by becoming Omega Shenron, but he was weaker than Goku, so he's not 10x stronger. KKx10 SSJB Goku would beat him.XenoSaiyan wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:01 pm Who is the strongest character in Super that Omega Shenron can beat?
I think Goku's gotten a couple times stronger post ToP, so the strongest person Omega Shenron would beat is SSJ Kefla.
Probably Yajirobe or Saiyan Saga Chaozu. He's probably the strongest patroler after Merus, but he's such a joke I can't see him going past 1000 at most.Seekeroftruth wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:12 am Who is the toughest opponent this guy can beat in DB/DBZ?
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SSj Movie 12 Gogeta vs. Buutenks
Who wins?
Who wins?
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He should be around the 3,000 - 5,000 range IMO. He not only beat up a bunch of Freeza's soldiers but he also beat Cranberry who was 2,000+ back in Namek.Seekeroftruth wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:12 am Who is the toughest opponent this guy can beat in DB/DBZ?
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I can see him beating Nappa if the latter doesn't adapt and get stronger.
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I think between cranberry and Nappa is perfect.ZombieVito wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:55 pmHe should be around the 3,000 - 5,000 range IMO. He not only beat up a bunch of Freeza's soldiers but he also beat Cranberry who was 2,000+ back in Namek.Seekeroftruth wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:12 am Who is the toughest opponent this guy can beat in DB/DBZ?
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I can see him beating Nappa if the latter doesn't adapt and get stronger.
They killed baby saiyans because they basically didn't have anyone to kill adults, I know he has had time to train since but yeah...