The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:49 pm

Almighty Majin wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:43 pm I like this idea! It sort of reminds me of the chi-blocking techniques and energy bending shown off in Avatar: The Last Airbender and later in Legend of Korra. Both of those abilities function in the way that you described and having Goku develop a sort of technique like that would be really cool and would provide a solution to battles that is not just rooted in raw power.
That was precisely what was in my mind, actually. Well, the chi blockers from Avatar, but more so the Chakra blocking that the Hyuuga clan uses in NARUTO.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:10 pm

Yuji wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:57 am What if Vegeta didn't kill Nappa?

Scenario 1: Vegeta leaves Nappa on the battlefield. Does Kuririn kill him or does Goku let him heal?

Scenario 2: Vegeta calls Nappa's pod before fighting Goku and Nappa is sent off to a Freeza planet for healing
S1: Goku probably heals him, and Nappa takes his space pod to leave. Nappa would refuse to work with Vegeta and decides to go after the Dragon Balls himself. Nappa is a total idiot and would get himself killed. While Vegeta is in the healing chamber, he tries to fight Zarbon and dies. He would get wish back thanks to the wish to bring back everyone that was killed by Freeza and his men. He trains and wants to get revenge on Vegeta for leaving him broken. Not only that, but he would not be on Earth and do his own training. He would arrive on Earth during the three time skip and tries to fight Vegeta. Vegeta turns Super Saiyan and ends up killing Nappa as he is tired of him. Everything else plays out the same.

S2: Nappa heals at Freeza's Planet and tags along with Vegeta. Both of them try to get the Dragon Balls together while things mostly playing out the same. Zarbon would still put Nappa and Vegeta in rejuvenation chamber, and Nappa would still get himself killed against Freeza.
He would probably live on Earth with Vegeta as he would have nowhere else to go. The two would probably learn how to go Super Saiyan with Vegeta fighting #19 and Nappa fighting Gero. Nappa would end up killing Gero, meaning that #17 and #18 are not awakened. Trunks tells everyone those were not the real cyborgs, but they were able to save the world because the real ones never got to awaken. Vegeta is pissed and decides to find Gero's lab so that he can fight them. Trunks fights Vegeta, and would probably lose. Vegeta finds a way to awaken #17 and #18 as well, letting them awaken #16. I think the rest of the Cell saga would play the same with Vegeta training with Trunks, and Goku training with Gohan. Nappa would end up training on his own in the Room of Spirit and Time.

I don't see the Buu saga being that different, other than Nappa would not fall under Babidi's spell. He would help train learning the fusion to Goten and Trunks. Gets himself absorb along with Piccolo, Gotenks and Gohan (So Buutenks gets a power boost). Daima and Super would probably be the same as well. Nappa would have taken Roshi's place instead for the TOP.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Xeogran » Fri Aug 08, 2025 3:53 pm

Scenario: GT Pan finds a Time Machine and ends up in Z, before Bulma, Gohan and Krillin depart to Namek. She sneaks in as she likes to do, and eventually introduces herself to the squad as a helpful fighter from another place.

With her help, do they manage to

1.Save Dende and his family before Frieza/Dodoria kills them
2.Defeat Dodoria without the aid of Vegeta
3.Defeat Zarbon
4.Meet Guru to unlock everyone's potential and Secure the Dragon Balls from Vegeta
5.Defeat the Ginyu Force or at least Guldo and Recoome before Goku lands on Namek (obviously he will come)
6.Face off against Frieza? Though I'm sure that Vegeta and Goku would want their own tries at him and she'd allow them to.

How would the Namek arc go with Pan's fighting skills and established power, what do you think?

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:07 pm

Xeogran wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 3:53 pm Scenario: GT Pan finds a Time Machine and ends up in Z, before Bulma, Gohan and Krillin depart to Namek. She sneaks in as she likes to do, and eventually introduces herself to the squad as a helpful fighter from another place.

With her help, do they manage to

1.Save Dende and his family before Frieza/Dodoria kills them
2.Defeat Dodoria without the aid of Vegeta
3.Defeat Zarbon
4.Meet Guru to unlock everyone's potential and Secure the Dragon Balls from Vegeta
5.Defeat the Ginyu Force or at least Guldo and Recoome before Goku lands on Namek (obviously he will come)
6.Face off against Frieza? Though I'm sure that Vegeta and Goku would want their own tries at him and she'd allow them to.

How would the Namek arc go with Pan's fighting skills and established power, what do you think?
"Dende?! Isn't that God? If he dies here...but he doesn't die, because he's God, so then that means..." Pan's deliberations hardly matter, as she views the mounting anger in her father boiling to the surface. Decided to leap in before Gohan snaps, Pan manages to distract Freeza and his forces long enough for Dodoria to take a nasty, concussion blow from Gohan. A free for all breaks out as Kuririn follows after Gohan—who is going berserk—while Pan—still cool-headed—manages to usher Dende and his family to safety. Zarbon steps in to stop Gohan from finishing off all of their mooks. Kuririn tries to get Gohan and Pan to high-tail it out of there, but Pan eventually steps in to save her dad from Zarbon by killing him.

As amused as he is, Freeza finally steps in and blasts Pan something fierce. Kuririn grabs her and manages to yell at Gohan to snap out of his rage, leading the two to escape.

Now devoid of his two elite soldiers, Freeza—pridefully refusing to give chase himself—returns to his ship to radio for the Gi-nyuu Special Squad to come to Namek.

A few days later, Gohan, Kuririn and Pan head to the Grand Elder's place with Dende and have their potential unlocked.

Pan overwhelms the Gi-nyuu Special Squad with her strength, even before Gokuu arrives.

Pan leads the charge against Freeza with Gohan, Gokuu, Kuririn and a reluctant Vegeta in tow. Eventually, he is defeated.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:39 pm

What if Goten and Trunks were born with tails? Would an Oozaru Gotenks be strong enough to take down Super Buu?
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Post by nineko » Fri Aug 22, 2025 12:02 am

Scratch that, the real question here is: would two Oozaru be able to perform the fusion dance?

(just kidding, I know you meant for Gotenks to transform after the kids fused, but still, you can't deny that it would be fun to see two giant gorillas dance)

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Grimlock » Fri Aug 22, 2025 2:07 am

nineko wrote: Fri Aug 22, 2025 12:02 amScratch that, the real question here is: would two Oozaru be able to perform the fusion dance?
If they can control their Oozaru forms, yes.

To be honest, I never actually thought of Oozaru Gotenks before, even though Golden Oozaru Gogeta is a thing. That'd be interesting to see. Especially because Kuririn asks about Trunks' tail, but Bulma doesn't answer him. So the possibility for that to happen right there.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Peach » Thu Oct 16, 2025 9:53 pm

What if Goku didn't get Frieza for the Tournament of Power? Instead of hastily teleporting to King Yenma, he thinks for a moment, listens to his team, and feels a chill from imagining what Frieza would do if he gets the wish ("I wish to rule above Zeno").

Who would Goku and the Team seriously consider?

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Post by Yuji » Mon Oct 20, 2025 3:31 am

What if Goku doesn’t come to Earth to fuse with Gohan?

Would Gohan have been able to hold out another minute until Bootenks defuses? And if so, would he manage to avoid absorption with no distractions around?

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Oct 20, 2025 10:33 am

Gohan outsmarts Buu with pleading to his inner Piccolo. This lasts long enough for the fusion to end. Gohan kills Buu with a Kamehame-Ha and the long wait for the Dragon Balls to be usable again begins. During this time, Gohan's brain warps from the stress and he never stops trainimg again.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Oct 20, 2025 11:27 am

Gohan would not kill Piccolo and his brother inside of him. I think he would try to free them similar to what Vegito did.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Dec 29, 2025 10:44 am

1) What if Chiaotzu wasn't born as a petite man?

2) What if Tien Shinhan wasn't born with a third Eye?

3) What if Krillin was born with a Nose?

4) What if Yamcha was born with the very exact same innate drive to train that Son Goku had been born with?

5) What if Son Goku had drank more of the Ultra Divine Water and then unlocked more of his hidden potential than he had in canon?

6) What if Piccolo and Nail had their hidden potentials unlocked by Grand Elder Guru before Piccolo had Assimilated Nail?

7) What if Future Trunks had grown to view Future Gohan as his true father from Future Trunks being fully neglected by Future Vegeta and Future Bulma having asked for Future Gohan to Babysit Future Trunks for her?

Eight) What if Trunks had grown to view Son Gohan as his true father and Son Goten as his younger brother from Trunks being fully neglected by Vegeta and Bulma having asked for Son Gohan to Babysit Trunks for her?

9) What if the Hyperbolic Time Chamber had been upgraded by Kami to allow for up to four different people to train together in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for 2 years in 20 times the Planet Earth’s Gravity for as many as four different times in a row?

10) What if Bardock had gotten with Chronoa instead of with Gine and then Son Goku had gotten with Aeos instead of with Chi-Chi?

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Post by nineko » Mon Dec 29, 2025 1:07 pm

3) Kuririn would have lost against Bacterian.

6) Nail had ample chances to get his power unlocked, in fact I think he was chosen to be Saichourou's bodyguard because he got the unlock. Piccolo didn't, of course. I actually can't answer your question.

8) I can't answer this one either, but I wanted to show that you can type that without triggering the sunglasses.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:49 pm

Yuji wrote: Mon Oct 20, 2025 3:31 am What if Goku doesn’t come to Earth to fuse with Gohan?

Would Gohan have been able to hold out another minute until Bootenks defuses? And if so, would he manage to avoid absorption with no distractions around?
He would probably have lasted a bit longer before the fusion defuse. He would take the fight more seriously and would have finished him off. Gohan would also feel gulity for killing his own brother and Piccolo.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by super michael » Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:11 pm

What if GT Bebi Bulma use her Blutz Wave on all the possessed Saiyain instead of using it only Bebi Vegeta, how would that change? These were the possessed Saiyans:

Vegeta
Gohan
Goten
Trunks
Bra

Imagine if Oozaru Goten and Oozaru Trunks fused into Oozaru Gotenks.

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