Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2

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Re: Goku (Super Saiyan God) vs Superman-REMATCH

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:58 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:That just shows that Death Battle is willing to fudge the usual rules whenever they feel like it (i.e. no outside help/plot devices). Like the Kryptonite in the first video...
But the kryptonite didn't play a factor at all. Goku destroyed it.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:50 pm

jcogginsa wrote:Probably gonna use Shenron to wish back the earth
Pretty much. I think this is probably how the episode will begin. Though shouldn't Piccolo be dead? Everyone else died. Supes killed his entire world as well as Goku's (well it was a composite world they seemed to share)
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Re: Goku (Super Saiyan God) vs Superman-REMATCH

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:05 pm

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jcogginsa wrote:Probably gonna use Shenron to wish back the earth
Pretty much. I think this is probably how the episode will begin. Though shouldn't Piccolo be dead? Everyone else died. Supes killed his entire world as well as Goku's (well it was a composite world they seemed to share)
Possibly that Superman wishes for someone strong to fight.

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Re: Goku (Super Saiyan God) vs Superman-REMATCH

Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:55 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:Probably gonna use Shenron to wish back the earth
Pretty much. I think this is probably how the episode will begin. Though shouldn't Piccolo be dead? Everyone else died. Supes killed his entire world as well as Goku's (well it was a composite world they seemed to share)
Possibly that Superman wishes for someone strong to fight.
Superman would never wish that, but he also wouldn't use Infinite mass punch on Goku and the Earth so there's that.

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Re: Goku (Super Saiyan God) vs Superman-REMATCH

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:43 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:Superman would never wish that, but he also wouldn't use Infinite mass punch on Goku and the Earth so there's that.
True, he's not the kind of guy who enjoys fighting for the sake of it.

Come to think of it, I can't think of any DC heroes who are like that (although I can name several DC villains and Marvel heroes with that personality trait).
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Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:51 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:
Superman would never wish that, but he also wouldn't use Infinite mass punch on Goku and the Earth so there's that.
Never said it wasn't OOC. JusrJust saying for the sake of a rematch.

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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:11 pm

I wonder how they are going to determine Godku's power..
Given that in the previous video, they used "the gravity formula" and then applied the official(and fanmade in the case of SS4) multipliers from there, I'm expecting the same here, but SSGod does not have an official multiplier.
As far as I can see, there's only one solution and that's going with the logic that Super Saiyan God gives a bigger boost than merging with the potara would and the multiplier for potara merging is only ever given in the Super Exciting Guide, namely Vegetto = Vegeta x Goku.
Even if some might not agree with Vegetto's battle power being a multiplication of Goku and Vegeta's battle power, that's the only thing we have to go on, so I can't see how else they could determine Godku's power.
Incidentally I Wonder what Goku's ScrewAttack stats would like, if they were all squared...

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:42 pm

I assume they won't have time to take into account the recent feats from the last two episodes, so once again they won't have accurate info regarding Goku's strength at the time of release. Not that it would matter much in the long run, because I'm sure Goku would beat New 52 even without those feats and would lose to other Supermen even with them, but it's something fans will make a fuss over.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:38 pm

Maybe Superman will be winning the fight then use the super flare and Goku will absorb it a ko the mortal superman.

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Post by Bullza » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:31 pm

I wonder how they are going to determine Godku's power..
Either by power scaling off of Beerus (though it's be too late for the Super feats) given that they do know he's 60% as strong as him or by calculating Vegito's stats and using it as a minimum or some sort of combination between the two.

They might just not go that indepth with the calculations this time.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:35 pm

Bullza wrote:
I wonder how they are going to determine Godku's power..
Either by power scaling off of Beerus (though it's be too late for the Super feats) given that they do know he's 60% as strong as him or by calculating Vegito's stats and using it as a minimum or some sort of combination between the two.

They might just not go that indepth with the calculations this time.
Or they might go with that BS all over again of "Superman is as strong as he needs to"
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:34 pm

dbgtFO wrote:I wonder how they are going to determine Godku's power..
Given that in the previous video, they used "the gravity formula" and then applied the official(and fanmade in the case of SS4) multipliers from there, I'm expecting the same here, but SSGod does not have an official multiplier.
As far as I can see, there's only one solution and that's going with the logic that Super Saiyan God gives a bigger boost than merging with the potara would and the multiplier for potara merging is only ever given in the Super Exciting Guide, namely Vegetto = Vegeta x Goku.
Even if some might not agree with Vegetto's battle power being a multiplication of Goku and Vegeta's battle power, that's the only thing we have to go on, so I can't see how else they could determine Godku's power.
Incidentally I Wonder what Goku's ScrewAttack stats would like, if they were all squared...
SSJ4 never had an official multiplier either. They'll probably just make something up.
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Re: Goku (Super Saiyan God) vs Superman-REMATCH

Post by Bullza » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:02 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXH286nM-Fo&app=desktop

Comes to YouTube at 9PM this Saturday. So 3 days to go.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:15 pm

Why are you guys so excited to see this? Regardless of who wins, I can pretty much guarantee it will be full of faulty research and info, on both sides.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:17 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Why are you guys so excited to see this? Regardless of who wins, I can pretty much guarantee it will be full of faulty research and info, on both sides.
Good fan animation? I enjoy death battle as they use fan animation . Same reason I like sprite fights on YouTube

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Post by jcogginsa » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:17 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Why are you guys so excited to see this? Regardless of who wins, I can pretty much guarantee it will be full of faulty research and info, on both sides.
It'll be a cool fight scene

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:19 pm

Yeah but there are better, lesser-known and underrated creators who make that kind of material.
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Post by jcogginsa » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:22 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Yeah but there are better, lesser-known and underrated creators who make that kind of material.
So? Doesn't mean we have to ignore this one

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Post by Tectorman » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:23 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Come to think of it, I can't think of any DC heroes who are like that (although I can name several DC villains and Marvel heroes with that personality trait).
Wasn't that more or less Wonder Woman's weakness that Batman considered as a way to neutralize her as a possible threat (a plan later put into motion by Ra's Al Ghul)? That, once engaged with an opponent, she psychologically could not bring herself to stop fighting until one of them was defeated?
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:42 am

I was speaking more of seeking out fights in the first place.
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