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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by nickzambuto » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:37 pm

Captain Sauza wrote:For the most part, the DBZ movie villains are better than the villains in the manga that that they were based off of.

Ex: Lord Slug > King Piccolo, Cooler > Freeza, Cooler's Squad > Ginyu Force, Janemba > Buu

etc.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MarCas92 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:20 pm

Captain Sauza wrote:For the most part, the DBZ movie villains are better than the villains in the manga that that they were based off of.

Ex: Lord Slug > King Piccolo, Cooler > Freeza, Cooler's Squad > Ginyu Force, Janemba > Buu

etc.
Could you elaborate? I am very curious as to why you would like them more.

I kind of agree with Cooler's Squad only because I feel the Ginyu portion of the Namek Arc overstayed it's welcome and I don't like any of the members but Guldo. But I feel the Cooler Squad has less personality due to them being in a movie and not having much time to develop.

I cannot understand any of your other choices though. The movie counterparts are nowhere NEAR as developed. They just come off as inferior knock off's. Cooler does have some redeemable qualities but that's due to his motivations more than his actual personality which is only slightly different from Freeza.

Except maybe Janemba, but which Boo are you talking about? Yellow Janemba is just a dumber and bigger Fat Boo and Janemba is just a less manic Kid Boo.

Idk, I guess I just can't understand why someone would prefer the movie villains apart from from their superior power and/or designs which to me aren't very compelling reasons.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:02 pm

Not sure if this is necessarily an "unpopular" opinion, but I honestly think that movie 13 is the best DBZ film, and yes, that includes 'Battle of Gods' and 'Ressurection F'.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by coola » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:52 pm

- Future 17 and 18 are as strong as present ones, they just always toy with Gohan and Trunks, to not break their toys after they kill rest of Z-Warriors.
- Garlic Jr. Saga is not the worst saga, i loved Gohan, Kuririn and Piccolo interaction, and i even liked Marron and Kuririn romance plot, nice to see poor little guy got girlfriend, after so much crap he went through.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:19 pm

WittyUsername wrote:Not sure if this is necessarily an "unpopular" opinion, but I honestly think that movie 13 is the best DBZ film, and yes, that includes 'Battle of Gods' and 'Ressurection F'.
That movie is widely considered one of the best. It's also my 2nd favorite behind Fusion Reborn.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by SylentEcho » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:30 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I'm not seeing how he was "brilliant," even on Namek. If "I'll avoid people who are stronger than me until I get stronger than them" and "I'll fight people that I should know are stronger than me because I now think I am stronger than them" are "brilliant strategies," I guess that makes me Alexander the Great or something.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by s841 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:24 am

I loved The Garlic Jr. Saga, Filler in general, and GT, which seems to be unpopular especially on Kanzenshuu lol.
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:13 am

Tournaments format storyline is heavily overrated in this fandon, like a lot.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:17 am

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Tournaments format storyline is heavily overrated in this fandon, like a lot.
Agreed, this franchise has had enough tournaments to the point where they had to be interrupted for a more interesting storyline because battling it out in a small ring is lame.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:31 am

Doctor. wrote:
Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Tournaments format storyline is heavily overrated in this fandon, like a lot.
Agreed, this franchise has had enough tournaments to the point where they had to be interrupted for a more interesting storyline because battling it out in a small ring is lame.
When was the tournament interrupted?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:32 am

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Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Tournaments format storyline is heavily overrated in this fandon, like a lot.
Agreed, this franchise has had enough tournaments to the point where they had to be interrupted for a more interesting storyline because battling it out in a small ring is lame.
When was the tournament interrupted?
The 25th, when half the contestants left with Kaioshin, and the 28th, when Goku left with Uub.

Granted, those tournaments aren't the main focus like the ones back in Dragon Ball.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:33 am

ABED wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Tournaments format storyline is heavily overrated in this fandon, like a lot.
Agreed, this franchise has had enough tournaments to the point where they had to be interrupted for a more interesting storyline because battling it out in a small ring is lame.
When was the tournament interrupted?
In the Cell Games (more like having its rules ignored, rather than interrupted, but whatever really), the Boo arc and even the epilogue.

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Post by ABED » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:40 am

Doctor. wrote:In the Cell Games (more like having its rules ignored, rather than interrupted, but whatever really), the Boo arc and even the epilogue.
The Cell Games was the story, and the disruption in the epilogue wasn't a more interesting story. I find Uub uninteresting, I'd much rather catch up with the characters that I know and love than get introduced to a new one at the last minute that has this big of a role in the ending. I'll give you the Buu arc, but the tournaments up to that point weren't interrupted and were interesting.
Granted, those tournaments aren't the main focus like the ones back in Dragon Ball.
Yes, they were a backdrop, whereas in DB, they were important and it's no accident that's why those tournaments were far better. Also, by that point, the Z fighters had outgrown the tournament. The Tournament felt cheap and lost its prestige after it became so popular because of Mr. Satan.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by UltimateHammerBro » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:48 am

coola wrote:- Future 17 and 18 are as strong as present ones, they just always toy with Gohan and Trunks, to not break their toys after they kill rest of Z-Warriors.
I like this. There's so much unexplained butterfly effect in the Cell saga that I like having an easy explanation.
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UltimateHammerBro wrote:
coola wrote:- Future 17 and 18 are as strong as present ones, they just always toy with Gohan and Trunks, to not break their toys after they kill rest of Z-Warriors.
I like this. There's so much unexplained butterfly effect in the Cell saga that I like having an easy explanation.
The butterfly effect is the explanation.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:51 pm

I always assumed their power wasn't really unlimited and it slowly weakened over the years.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:50 am

Tree of Might is the worst DB movie. Not because of the plot, or the animation, or the music, or unoriginality, or anything like that, but because it's sooooo boring. The movie cannot hold my interest at all, and, in comparison, I've been able to sit through and enjoy Bio Broly and Lord Slug. ToM just goes on and on, and I get the same feeling that I have during that last 30 minutes of Return of the King when the movie ended but just kept going.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:20 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Tree of Might is the worst DB movie. Not because of the plot, or the animation, or the music, or unoriginality, or anything like that, but because it's sooooo boring. The movie cannot hold my interest at all, and, in comparison, I've been able to sit through and enjoy Bio Broly and Lord Slug. ToM just goes on and on, and I get the same feeling that I have during that last 30 minutes of Return of the King when the movie ended but just kept going.
This. I rewatched it recently and it was so boring, plot takes SO MUCH time to get started, fighting is short and sucks, z fighters other than Goku literally did nothing (defeated off-screen), Tullece is terrible... It is still Dragon Ball, and i don't hate it, but it's the worst movie.

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Post by MarCas92 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:22 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote: This. I rewatched it recently and it was so boring, plot takes SO MUCH time to get started, fighting is short and sucks, z fighters other than Goku literally did nothing (defeated off-screen), Tullece is terrible... It is still Dragon Ball, and i don't hate it, but it's the worst movie.
I find it boring just because of all the filler. This movie has so many random shots of scenery. Also, if I remember correctly, little to none of the music is action oriented. It's all dramatic and atmospheric, but most of the time it's silent. Watch Movie 1, which in my opinion has the best use of music, and you'll notice that a lot of the action has music. But I still think the movie has a lot of redeeming factors. It's nice to see most of the Z-fighters get some action, I like the concept of the Tree, I like the concept and design of the villain. I place it in the "meh" category.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:13 pm

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Kuririn Fan wrote: This. I rewatched it recently and it was so boring, plot takes SO MUCH time to get started, fighting is short and sucks, z fighters other than Goku literally did nothing (defeated off-screen), Tullece is terrible... It is still Dragon Ball, and i don't hate it, but it's the worst movie.
I find it boring just because of all the filler. This movie has so many random shots of scenery. Also, if I remember correctly, little to none of the music is action oriented. It's all dramatic and atmospheric, but most of the time it's silent. Watch Movie 1, which in my opinion has the best use of music, and you'll notice that a lot of the action has music. But I still think the movie has a lot of redeeming factors. It's nice to see most of the Z-fighters get some action, I like the concept of the Tree, I like the concept and design of the villain. I place it in the "meh" category.
i agree. And I know about Movie 1, man, i watched/read everything Dragon Ball related.
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