picc wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:14 am
How far do you guys think U7 would have gotten in the ToP if it was everyone circa the end of the buu saga?
Let's say U11 and U6 are exempted along with the other universes with highest mortal level.
I think it would not be easy, and that fight-as-you please approach would end up biting them in their asses. Without teamwork, they are gone. And also fusion, which would be a last resort thing for Goku and Vegeta.
SS Gotenks (with SS3 just in case)
SS2 Goku
SS2 Vegeta (Super Vegito just in case)
Ultimate Gohan and Piccolo
Krilin, Roshi and Tenshinhan
17, 18 and Buu.
While there are no god forms, 17 should still have been living on monster island for at least 7 years or so. He might not be as strong as he was in DBS, but should be quite strong, if not low SSB level, then perhaps SSG level, Super Vegito level or something in between. He can be quite the trump card.
U2: has Ribrianne and some good teamwork that could end up with a Pretty Black Hole.
U3: it was mostly machines, and even before Aniraza, there was Koichiarator I think, it gave Gohan a run for his money. And of course Maji Kayo that seems to be god level.
U4: had Damon and that other weirdo.
U9: had the dogs, and mostly Bergamo.
U10: had Obuni that required Ultimate Gohan to go down.
Vs. U2 "The Hands that Built the Universe": Ribrianne got ringed out by 18 IIRC, and flat out withdrew in the manga. I think they can deal with her somehow, the same for the PBH, that appeared late into the tournament, they just have to take things seriously and ring everybody out when they can before they can regroup and try things like the Black Hole, instead of chasing dogs with puffy tails.
Vs. U3 "Rage Against the Machines": I'm pretty sure not all of them were contenders, most of them were ringed out by low-level people like Cabba, Roshi, 18, and Gamisaras. If they team up, they can deal with the big guns, before Aniraza is formed. Individually, the only one that's a serious problem is Maji Kayo, not even the robots forming Koichiarator are supposed to be a big deal.
I think Maji Kayo could be dealt by 17 and somebody else assisting him. If Super Vegito and 17 fought together, I can see Maji Kayo going home.
Vs. U4: "It's a trap": Most of these team was defeated by the humans, Krilin, Roshi. Monna seemed to be the strongest, she gave SS Cabba some trouble. Damon is the problem, but he got ringed out by 17, and he can do that here too.
Vs U9 "Who let the dogs out?": This one might be the most troublesome because they proved to be quite good together, and Bergamo has that weird technique. But two of those dogs were defeated by a rusty, blind SS Gohan and Mr. Buu. If they work together, they can pull Bergamo and overpower him as a team. Super Vegito and 17 could work together and ring him out, too.
Vs U10 "Muscle Tower Part 2": I think this one depends solely on Obuni. The rest isn't impressive, I can see the rest of the U7 team dealing with them while the big hitters focus on Obuni.
Without U6 and U11, I think U7 would benefit greatly from not having Jiren and Hit drawing their attention, letting them focus on just beating who they have in front of them. They wouldn't be running around looking for that white rabbit, but fighting whoever they encounter. Knowing there's a hakaishin-level beast somewhere made them be all over the place.
I think Super Vegito (he probably would turn SS2 or even SS3, if needed), 17 and Ultimate Gohan fighting together could deal with the serious threats like Maji Kayo, Obuni, or Bergamo, while Mr. Buu, Piccolo, and SS3 Gotenks could deal with lesser threats, and 18 would lead the earthlings and clean up the weaker fighters. But like I said before, they would have to go for the "win", not enjoy their fights, not let the opponents transform, get breaks, etc.
If they do their usual thing, if they get cocky, if Vegito or Gotenks try to take people on their own, then they are gone. Through teamwork they defeated Jiren, these people should be a piece of cake.
