The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Saiga]

Ignore GT logic...
...Basically, use Z logic.

But using Z logic would possibly make them even weaker.

Using Z logic would make everyone weaker, which includes Omega.

[CaptainKatsura]

Vegeta would probably make Trunks train intensively, but I'm not so sure about Goten's case.

By the way, I tend to think Goten had more potential than his childhood friend, then heterosexual life partner. He didn't receive any gravity training yet he was roughly as powerful.

[Insertclevername]

If they as Super Saiyans are able to fight (at least) on par with #18, it stands to reason that Freeza isn't worth shit to them.

They were fighting in a Tournament, I doubt #18 was fighting all out.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Ignore GT logic...
...Basically, use Z logic.

But using Z logic would possibly make them even weaker.

Using Z logic would make everyone weaker, which includes Omega.

But how will we use Z logic in a GT character?

[dbzfan7]

SSJ Goku (android saga before 3yr training) vs Mecha Freeza, Coola, Cold, Ginyu Force.

remove Ginyu Force if too hard and add the Coola Squadron if too easy for Goku.

[dprez]

Goku had already gotten stronger than his Ssj self on namek when he arrived on earth and "sparred" with Trunks, so this Goku would wipe the floor with the Freeza Clan with ease. The Ginyu force or Coola squad are fodder and don't make any difference.

We know that Ssj Trunks is around Future Gohan's level, and we know that Future Gohan wasn't as powerful as his dad was the last time he saw him turn Ssj, which was probably when he defeated Mecha Freeza and Cold in Trunks timeline. Future Trunks is not as powerful as Goku when they meet, and we know that Trunks is at least as strong as Ssj Goku on Namek, which means Goku must be stronger than he was on Namek, and back then he had enough power to easily handle Freeza. Add in his father and brother against an even stronger Ssj Goku, they don't stand a chance imo.

[Saiga]

Goku would wipe them all out effortlessly.

[dbzfan7]

How about SSJ Goku Namek and SSJ Trunks vs Freeza (Mecha or Namek), Cold, and Coola

[Saiga]

How about SSJ Goku Namek and SSJ Trunks vs Freeza (Mecha or Namek), Cold, and Coola

If we go by Coola's V-Jump battle power of 470,000,000 he'd be out of Goku and Trunks' league. But I don't know how credible that number is...

[Kaboom]

The Ginyu Force and/or Armored Squad are inconsequential. But a triple tag-team of Freeza, Coola, and Cold all coming at him at once could give Goku alone some serious trouble, even if he has moderately improved since Namek.

Goku AND Trunks working together, however, can cream them with very little trouble. Definitely slams the scales back down in their favor.

[In Brightest Day]

The team of Saiyan arc Vegeta, Nappa, Tarble & Raditz vs. Final form Freeza, Zarbon, Dodoria and Cui.

Everyone is at equal power levels.

[Kaboom]

Vegeta, Nappa, and to a certain extent, Raditz are all fierce and tenacious fighters. Whether they can win or not will largely depend on how much Tarble and his lack of combat aptitude ends up holding them back.

[Insertclevername]

The team of Saiyan arc Vegeta, Nappa, Tarble & Raditz vs. Final form Freeza, Zarbon, Dodoria and Cui.

Everyone is at equal power levels.

I'd say the Saiyans, if we are talking equal BP's. Vegeta and Nappa would dominate as their opponents, especially Freeza, don't seem very skilled as they relied on there immense power.

[Rocketman]

At equal strength, it'll be hard for anybody to overcome Vegeta's insane endurance.

[Mystic Gohan]

Vegeta's "endurance" gave him no edge over SSJ2 Goku.

[Fox666]

Goku is also more durable than most characters (even if not like Vegeta) and we really don't know how much they have been fighting.

[hleV]

Vegeta's endurance was important BEFORE the battle powers increased millions of times.

[Saiga]

Vegeta's endurance was important BEFORE the battle powers increased millions of times.

Hey, he survived against Kid Boo, that's got to show endurance.

[DBZAOTA482]

He also gets the shit beat out of him more than anyone else in the series.

[dbzfan7]

Fat Boo vs Evil Boo vs Kid Boo vs Cell vs Freeza at equal power levels and no regeneration.