Kanzentai Battle Power Guide

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Post by Amigo Ten » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:20 pm

Yeah, Kami seems quite a lot stronger than King Piccolo. Goku used his monkey fist thing on Popo and Popo walked it, and Kami flicked him away like a bug.

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Post by Senzu_Bean » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:21 pm

Herms wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:Isn't Kami-sama only supposed to be stronger than old Piccolo, not young Piccolo?
By "young Piccolo", do you mean young Piccolo Daimao or Ma Junior? If young Piccolo Daimao, then Kami is supposed to be stronger than Popo (according to Popo), and Goku was completely outclassed by Popo after he defeated young Piccolo Daimao. But Ma Junior is supposed to be stronger than Kami.
Young Piccolo Daimao, yes. I see... but it doesn't really make sense Kami been stronger than young Piccolo Daimao since when this was old he was quite weaker. Doesn't Kami got weaker as his age? Or didn't they split in equal power terms?

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Post by rereboy » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:32 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:
Herms wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:Isn't Kami-sama only supposed to be stronger than old Piccolo, not young Piccolo?
By "young Piccolo", do you mean young Piccolo Daimao or Ma Junior? If young Piccolo Daimao, then Kami is supposed to be stronger than Popo (according to Popo), and Goku was completely outclassed by Popo after he defeated young Piccolo Daimao. But Ma Junior is supposed to be stronger than Kami.
Young Piccolo Daimao, yes. I see... but it doesn't really make sense Kami been stronger than young Piccolo Daimao since when this was old he was quite weaker. Doesn't Kami got weaker as his age? Or didn't they split in equal power terms?
Maybe they didn`t split in equal powers or maybe Kami got stronger while Piccolo was imprisoned and unable to train.

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Post by Amigo Ten » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:33 pm

Well, Namek's Great Elder says that splitting like that cuts power in half. But that doesn't mean they always stay equal. Kami obviously just progressed a lot while he was a God whereas Piccolo was trapped in a rice cooker for hundreds of years.

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Post by Akira » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:47 pm

Maybe they meant to say this:

220 - Kami (With weighted cape and staff, aging and sensing death)

(/joke)

I don't get that one either, because he was supposedly stronger than Daimao. It must be a power suppressed level or as I joked above, weighted clothing or something.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:38 pm

Akira wrote:Maybe they meant to say this:

220 - Kami (With weighted cape and staff, aging and sensing death)

(/joke)

I don't get that one either, because he was supposedly stronger than Daimao. It must be a power suppressed level or as I joked above, weighted clothing or something.
Perhaps they assumed that Kami-Sama became weaker in those 5 years before the arrival of Raditz, since there is no proof that he trained. After all, Gohan got weaker in 7 years of no training.
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Re: Kanzentai Battle Power Guide

Post by Senzu_Bean » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:16 pm

Herms, do you mind tell me what the V-Jump says about Goku's battle power? Looking at the page it looks like to be 180,000 but does it says anything about Kaioken? Thanks!

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Post by Herms » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:12 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:Herms, do you mind tell me what the V-Jump says about Goku's battle power? Looking at the page it looks like to be 180,000 but does it says anything about Kaioken? Thanks!
It says "over 180,000". The accompanying paragraph is pretty hard to read with the scan we have, but from what I can make out it just talks about Goku's BP surpassing Ginyu but being far below 2nd form Freeza.

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