Filler you miss...

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Re: Filler you miss...

Post by Raven » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:01 am

There were certain episodes where I thought they over did the removal of certain filler/padding.. Some of the best examples I can think of are the Saiyan arc, where we really didn't get as much character development from Gohan, and right before Vegeta and Nappa arrived I didn't get the same anticipation, which was great in Z.'' they're finally here''

So I don't really miss specific filler, But some things just go by so fast, it reduces the impact of some scenes like Trunks VS Freeza. Things I'll never miss are the filler arcs like fake Namek and Garlic jr.

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Re: Filler you miss...

Post by Olympian » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:30 am

Innagadadavida wrote:Anything with the humans. I miss Tenshinhan, Krillin, and Yamcha climbing Karin's tower. I miss their training. I miss Yamcha playing baseball. I miss Lunch chasing Tenshinhan down, and coming across Upa and Bora. I miss the Earthlings dominating the Ginyu force on King Kai's planet.

Actually, I don't miss them at all because I have the Dragon Boxes... Or wait... Will have Volume 1 soon. Why do I have 2 and 3 but not 1?
Ditto. And everyone trying to help Gohan against Cell. That filler always seemed more true to the core of the characters involved than the actual Manga scene. How many of those fillers, sans the Baseball idea, actually came from Toriyama?
Rocketman wrote:
Cold Skin wrote:I think in that case, it's eventually a same scene, but with an alternate interpretation: instead of not moving and watching, they decide to help Gohan.
The thing is, in the manga it's not that they don't help, it's that they can't. The blast of the Kamehamehas colliding knocks everybody away, and just as they're all standing up again, Vegeta intervenes.
Is it really that clear? I don`t recall lines of dialogue indicating that, and they didn`t seemed to be that close to the blasts. I don`t know, i would think Toryama would at least have added some dialogue about it. Let us know that they were at least trying to do something. Granted, the whole scene does not last as much as it does in the anime, but hey..
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Yamcha + Roshi = Yamoshi

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Re: Filler you miss...

Post by Rocketman » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:53 pm

Olympian wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Cold Skin wrote:I think in that case, it's eventually a same scene, but with an alternate interpretation: instead of not moving and watching, they decide to help Gohan.
The thing is, in the manga it's not that they don't help, it's that they can't. The blast of the Kamehamehas colliding knocks everybody away, and just as they're all standing up again, Vegeta intervenes.
Is it really that clear? I don`t recall lines of dialogue indicating that, and they didn`t seemed to be that close to the blasts. I don`t know, i would think Toryama would at least have added some dialogue about it. Let us know that they were at least trying to do something. Granted, the whole scene does not last as much as it does in the anime, but hey..
Viz DBZ vol 19, chapter 222:

The Kamehamehas race towards each other on the first two pages.

Page 110,
Piccolo: No! Get away!
Kamehamehas collide in the bottom of 110 and top of 111.

Pg 111, bottom:
Piccolo, Krillin, 18, Tien, Yamcha and Trunks' corpse are blasted away by the force of the collision, someone shouts WOAH!. Hercules and the cameraguys get tossed too.

Pg112
Long shot of the 'bubble', Gohan is struggling, Cell looks confident.

Pg113
Some city is shaking to pieces, Gohan visibly weakens, last panel has Piccolo, now far back and up in the air, saying "He can't do it, he's being overpowered!"

Pg114
Cell laughs, Goku starts talking about Gohan holding back.

Pg115
Goku finishes talking, Cell says goodbye, Vegeta's blast hits on the next-to-last panel.

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Re: Filler you miss...

Post by dan2026 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:26 am

Rocketman wrote:Hercules and the cameraguys get tossed too.
There are so many things wrong with that sentence. :lol:

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