Yeah.Nazi Cola wrote:Freeza never said Cold did better than Goku.goldsaint13 wrote: Exactly... It would also match with what Freezer said about his father being able to do better against him that Goku but we know he is yet weaker than his 100%...
Of course... Vegetto has such a power that it can't be even imagined...hleV wrote:Vegetto. This being is Goku x Vegeta in battle powers, which makes him millions of times stronger than anyone else in the series. Some people set him at around Gogeta's level of power, which for me cannot make sense because Metamor fusion hasn't been stated to have a rivalry boost, which I believe resulted in Goku and Vegeta's Potara fusion being a multiplier of their battle powers, unlike Kibitoshin's.
Didn't he say: "Only my father could knock me down faster than you!"?Nazi Cola wrote: Freeza never said Cold did better than Goku.
Yes, but I'm talking about 50% Freezer vs Kaioken x10 Goku, not Freezer cyborg and King Cold when they are on Earth...dbgtFO wrote: What Freeza actually says is that he and Cold will definetly be able to defeat Goku, if they work together and then he follows it up by saying, that he should probably be do it on his own, now that he has powered up.
Oh that, well first off I'm assuming you're referring to chapter 310, where Freeza wasn't at 50%, but merely at the level of power he was using before going 50%.goldsaint13 wrote:Didn't he say: "Only my father could knock me down faster than you!"?Yes, but I'm talking about 50% Freezer vs Kaioken x10 Goku, not Freezer cyborg and King Cold when they are on Earth...
Yes, it was 30% Freezer, not 50%...dbgtFO wrote: Oh that, well first off I'm assuming you're referring to chapter 310, where Freeza wasn't at 50%, but merely at the level of power he was using before going 50%.
Secondly Freeza just says that Goku is the first guy, since his parent(s) , that has made him dusty in a fight.
Super Vegito wrote:Broly anyone? No? He's easily underrated as he is overrated.
Poor guy.
It's hard to see him underrated... He is Mr. Overrating as definition... 
Try 2,5% Freeza instead.goldsaint13 wrote:Yes, it was 30% Freezer, not 50%...dbgtFO wrote: Oh that, well first off I'm assuming you're referring to chapter 310, where Freeza wasn't at 50%, but merely at the level of power he was using before going 50%.
Secondly Freeza just says that Goku is the first guy, since his parent(s) , that has made him dusty in a fight.
I knew about him saying: "Only my parents have been able to knock me down faster than you"... Anyway it's similar and it'a to say that King Cold is stronger than 30% or even 50% Freezer...
He was fighting with Kaioken x10 Goku that is 30.000.000... Freezer should use 30% to stay even to that...dbgtFO wrote: Try 2,5% Freeza instead.
Not when he said "You're the first one, since my parent(s) to etc."goldsaint13 wrote:He was fighting with Kaioken x10 Goku that is 30.000.000... Freezer should use 30% to stay even to that...dbgtFO wrote: Try 2,5% Freeza instead.
Right, it's just before Goku supposedly started to use it...dbgtFO wrote: Not when he said "You're the first one, since my parent(s) to etc."
Super Vegito wrote:Broly anyone? No? He's easily underrated as he is overrated.
Poor guy.
Well, then why making a comparison with Goku at the moment?rereboy wrote:Who says that Freeza wasn't talking about when he was a kid (and way weaker than he is as an adult, even though he was still much more powerful than anyone besides his family as a kid)?
Er.. Why? Freeza was still much more powerful than anyone he knew about in the universe besides his family (as a child or otherwise).goldsaint13 wrote:Well, then why making a comparison with Goku at the moment?rereboy wrote:Who says that Freeza wasn't talking about when he was a kid (and way weaker than he is as an adult, even though he was still much more powerful than anyone besides his family as a kid)?
It was a compliment for him... It would have been a mock to compare him as his childish years...
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
His leg was broken, so it would be difficult, if he did, but in the anime filler, he fights Tambourine(the fight we never got in the manga, because Tambourine was interrupted earlier in the manga) until Piccolo contacted Tambourine.Kid Buu wrote: Piccolo Daimao - I can't remember him fighting in this arc actually.
Yeah, they wouldn't stand a chance. Both of them were completely shocked at Piccolo and God's level of power.23rd Budokai - OK, here he got his *** kicked. But to be honest I don't think Krillin or Tenshinan could have beaten Kami either.
rereboy wrote: Anyway, I believe people just are interpreting way too much out of that line. He simply meant to say exactly what he said... He wasn't saying that Goku was as powerful as his dad or something like that.
Yeah, maybe we often let ourselves to bee too driven by a word or another in the manga... The author is not that keen on these things...Broly all the way. He was such a badass. He came back the most of any DBZ villain (in terms of death). He's truly a BROly.hleV wrote:Super Vegito wrote:Broly anyone? No? He's easily underrated as he is overrated.
Poor guy.
SuperAndroid11 wrote: Broly all the way. He was such a badass. He came back the most of any DBZ villain (in terms of death). He's truly a BROly.
The fact he is so much overrated in terms of Battle Power/Kili reading (people assign him a power possibly even far above 24.000 Kili while he probably never reaches 6000 Kili, based on Goku's values) makes us forget that he is a real baddass in his SSJ2-tier category... 
