DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by Cold Skin » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:35 am

I think they will likely proceed the way they did for the digital version.
Meaning changing the colors as the story goes depending on the last original color pages revealed (exemple in the digital manga: Goku wears blue and Bulma has blue hair for the first two chapters, then when the original color pages of chapter 3 show Goku wearing orange and Bulma having purple hair, the digital manga keeps going with those).
Colors not revealed by Toriyama will likely be chosen by Shueisha and not based on the anime (see Gyumao's green outfit or the feiry Kame Hame Ha in the digital version).

I bet it's not Tankobon size either, this is sort of a super-deluxe version, it should end up being Kanzenban-sized or even bigger.
I think they'll have at least the whole Z/Kai portion colorized, there would be no point in doing the Saiyans arc only - unless it's a big commercial failure of course, then they might stop it immediately.

This is great news, but it does bring up questions and conclusions:
- New version of the manga, like the Kanzenban back then: what will the covers be like? Will they ask Toriyama to make new artworks yet again?
- The French market only releases the next manga edition once the previous has ended. We had to wait for the Tankobon to come to an end before they started the Kanzenban, so we'll have to wait for the end of the Kanzenban before they start the full-color version. And we're only about to start the Cell arc, it will take 3-4 years before this full-color version is available here! Damn!

Ah, after the great digital edition, respectful of Toriyama's choices and style, I kept wondering why the hell they didn't colorize the whole manga!
Well, that's not the whole manga yet, but at least they understood that there is something interesting to do with that idea!
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Post by Raykugen » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:40 am

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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by Cold Skin » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:43 am

Wow, thanks Raykugen! 8)
It will be a fascinating way to rediscover the manga!
I love when they update stuff to make the excitement of the discovery process all new again, giving a whole new feel to it all!

The partly-seen image of Goku charging up his power on the top right - even if all we can see is the landscape - hints that some famous shots might take a whole new dimension in that version!
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Post by kei17 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:44 am

Looks underwhelming to me. The color palette seems to be the same as that of Dragon Ball SD, so I guess Naho Ooishi is in charge of this.

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Post by Mewzard » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:45 am

Fox666 wrote:Saint Seiya sequel has been made in color since the beggining, while Dragon Ball on the other hand would be a process of adding color to black-and-white pages.

For comparison, here is an image from the original Saint Seiya manga, and poster of sort with later added colors.
I know, my original topic was potentially asking if it would be good to color it at all, and if not later, what if it were colored from the beginning.

But yes, you're right. Your post color examples differ from, say, art that was colored from the beginning:

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I still find it funny that Dragon Ball is (if not from a new series, then a later reprint) follow Saint Seiya in full color mangahood, given they were both popular Jump manga released at around the same time in the 80s, made into popular Jump manga that continue to be Toei's best international successes (the one area they surpass One Piece in, lol).

The question about what colors will be used is an interesting one, given that we know that the movie is coming off the heels of this reprint. Will they try to keep things consistent with anime colors? Will they be faithful to Toriyama's semi-inconsistent idea of who should be what color?

And I wonder if this will effect other manga: Jumps got a lot of big manga, some that Toei has made anime of. Will this lead to a full color reprint of Fist of the North Star? The original Saint Seiya? Maybe something else, like Mazinger Z or Getter Robo (I fear the thought of what Toei would do to manga Ryoma Nagare...)? Or hell maybe something like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. That would make some glorious pages in full color.

Also, after DBZ gets colored...what would it mean for Toei? Would Toei keep an eye on sales to see how it does, and maybe use those colors in a future reanimation of Dragon Ball? Not any time soon, but years down the road. With the new Sailor Moon coming out, I imagine anything is possible.

I do wonder if this might inspire Toriyama, watching the excitement of so many fans seeing his work again, to continue the manga. Not weekly of course, Toriyama is far too lazy for that. But, a full colored manga release monthly, or just in batches whenever he gets a few chapters done (...I'm not seriously intending to reference back so much, it's just something I really want).

I made this topic over a month ago, asking about a Full Color release...so is it fair to say I unconsciously won at predicting Dragon Ball news?
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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by Raykugen » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:50 am

I wonder what they'll do with the coloured pages by toriyama, probably they'll remake them like those scenes of kai doing vectors or something
kei17 wrote:Looks underwhelming to me. The color palette seems to be the same as that of Dragon Ball SD, so I guess Naho Ooishi is in charge of this.
I think the people who colouring for those kind of stuff aren't the artists which draw the art
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Post by Saiga » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:51 am

The example looks good, I'll looking forward to this more now.
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Post by kei17 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:54 am

Raykugen wrote:
kei17 wrote:Looks underwhelming to me. The color palette seems to be the same as that of Dragon Ball SD, so I guess Naho Ooishi is in charge of this.
I think the people who colouring for those kind of stuff aren't the artists which draw the art
Then it must be the same person who also does DBSD. Anyway, they do resemble each other.

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Post by Cold Skin » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:02 am

Don't we have some proof that it's not anime colors with that sample?
There's Goku's Gi being orange, but that could be a minor hint at that I guess.
But maybe more importantly, when looking at Vegeta breaking his scouter, it seems that his scouter is green, while it's red in the anime if I'm not mistaken.

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Post by Saiga » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:04 am

Cold Skin wrote:Don't we have some proof that it's not anime colors with that sample?
There's Goku's Gi being orange, but that could be a minor hint at that I guess.
But maybe more importantly, when looking at Vegeta breaking his scouter, it seems that his scouter is green, while it's red in the anime if I'm not mistaken.
That's a good catch, definitely looks like his scouter is green there.
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Post by kei17 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:10 am

Raykugen wrote:I wonder what they'll do with the coloured pages by toriyama, probably they'll remake them like those scenes of kai doing vectors or something
I too was curious about this, and it turned out that they recolored them. Honestly, I prefer Toriyama's original version.

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Post by Raykugen » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:14 am

kei17 wrote:
Raykugen wrote:I wonder what they'll do with the coloured pages by toriyama, probably they'll remake them like those scenes of kai doing vectors or something
I too was curious about this, and it turned out to be the latter. Honestly, I prefer Toriyama's original version.

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Well, at least the shapes of shadows are the sames, I preffer a digital version because it looks more clean than the original
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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:54 am

You know, the saiyajin arc isn't a bad choice to make a color version of. Watching the time of day slowly change over the course of the volume in color could be really nice.
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Post by medama_oyaji » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:16 am

Yup, it's basically what I expected. Looks nice, but not anything I'm really interested in, personally.

Also LOL @ the scene choice in that VJump ad. 8)

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:26 am

I'm near-convinced they had to have chosen that "Over 8000." scene on purpose for the ad. Cheeky of Shueisha, as old as that meme is now.
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Post by kei17 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:48 am

Chuquita wrote:I'm near-convinced they had to have chosen that "Over 8000." scene on purpose for the ad. Cheeky of Shueisha, as old as that meme is now.
The meme is not known in Japan, so it must be just a coincidence.

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Post by omegalucas » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:49 am

Is it going to be digital? :shock:
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Post by Raykugen » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:59 am

omegalucas wrote:Is it going to be digital? :shock:
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:00 pm

kei17 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I'm near-convinced they had to have chosen that "Over 8000." scene on purpose for the ad. Cheeky of Shueisha, as old as that meme is now.
The meme is not known in Japan, so it must be just a coincidence.
It's a coincidence? O_O
If it's a coincidence, that makes it pretty cool.
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Post by Herms » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:04 pm

3 volumes for the Saiyan arc and 5 for Freeza means these will be slightly larger than the Kanzenban, which have a little over 3 for the Saiyans and a little less than 6 for Freeza, for a total of 9 volumes versus the 8 this set will have.

Wonder if they'll do anything to change the last chapter of the Freeza arc? As-is, the wrap-up with everyone getting wished back leads directly into Mecha Freeza and Cold approaching Earth, with no chapter break in between. It'd be kind of an odd way to end this run of color manga, unless they plan on following up with the android/Cell stuff.
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