Goku and women

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:28 pm

I've always thought of Toriyama more as Senbei from Dr. Slump than Goku. When Toriyama draws himself he even looks kinda like Senbei. He probably does share some traits with Goku though; I think that's a natural thing that many authors do whether their conscious of it or not.

soulnova · Post by **soulnova** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:32 pm

Didn't Toriyama say he regarded himself similar to Roshi?

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:03 pm

Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Regarding the "Akira Toriyama doesn't want to write romance, so that's the only reason why there is none with Gokuu," belief, I think it can be said that Akira Toriyama /is/ Son Gokuu to an extent, and is thus in-character for him to also not to be interested in romance or libido.

I simply think as an artist, he wasn't interested in showing that side of his characters. None of them really show that side of themselves. Even Gohan's relationship with Videl isn't delved into that much. I don't recall even seeing them kiss. I'm sure they did, just not on camera.

As for Goku being not all that intelligent, he isn't but it's by upbringing and choice. He grew up away from civilization, and was likely only taught how to survive, fight and communicate verbally by Son Gohan. Maybe a few other things about the outside world, but not much. I think he had the capacity to learn, but his interests weren't in anything academic. He liked to push himself physically and that's where he put his mental and physical efforts. As is shown throughout the series, Goku is a VERY intelligent fighter. I'd say he's a fighting genius. The only times he was bested in battle were when his opponent was stronger, not because they were better tacticians.

JeffJarrett · Post by **JeffJarrett** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:26 pm

Goku is Toriyama as a kid.

About Suno, isn't she with #8 at the end of the series?!

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:45 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:Goku is Toriyama as a kid.

About Suno, isn't she with #8 at the end of the series?!

No, he's an android, and completely synthetic. I'm not sure what would make you think they were together.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:51 am

Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Regarding the "Akira Toriyama doesn't want to write romance, so that's the only reason why there is none with Gokuu," belief, I think it can be said that Akira Toriyama /is/ Son Gokuu to an extent, and is thus in-character for him to also not to be interested in romance or libido.

I'm pretty sure Toriyama has admitted that he himself is a pervert.

ABED wrote:No, he's an android, and completely synthetic.

Actually, a chart of the androids in the manga says he's built from a human base, just like #17 and #18.

Besides, who says a girl can't love a robot?

GS7X7 · Post by **GS7X7** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:47 am

I think they're just friends. There's no suggestion of romantic context. Plus he's uh, not quite as good-looking as 17/18 were.

JeffJarrett · Post by **JeffJarrett** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:23 am

GS7X7 wrote:I think they're just friends. There's no suggestion of romantic context. Plus he's uh, not quite as good-looking as 17/18 were.

They seem pretty close here.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:32 am

Bussani wrote:
Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Regarding the "Akira Toriyama doesn't want to write romance, so that's the only reason why there is none with Gokuu," belief, I think it can be said that Akira Toriyama /is/ Son Gokuu to an extent, and is thus in-character for him to also not to be interested in romance or libido.
I'm pretty sure Toriyama has admitted that he himself is a pervert.

ABED wrote:No, he's an android, and completely synthetic.
Actually, a chart of the androids in the manga says he's built from a human base, just like #17 and #18.

Besides, who says a girl can't love a robot?

Given that he looks like Frankenstein's monster, I'd say it's pretty disgusting. Also, I remember the chart I think you are referring to, and I don't remember it saying he was anything other than synthetic.

JeffJarrett · Post by **JeffJarrett** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:43 am

Fox666 · Post by **Fox666** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:54 am

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ABED · Post by **ABED** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:19 am

1 - GT isn't canon, and
2 - Touching him like that can still be platonic, and finally
3 - She had to touch him so Goku could teleport them off the planet.

Fox666 · Post by **Fox666** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:23 am

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ABED · Post by **ABED** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:45 am

Fox666 wrote:There is no "canon" in Dragon Ball.

What Toriyama writes is canon. I'm not sure why you got the silly idea that there's no canon in Dragon Ball.

soulnova · Post by **soulnova** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:23 am

ABED wrote: What Toriyama writes is canon. I'm not sure why you got the silly idea that there's no canon in Dragon Ball.

Welcome, you must be new here. *shakes hand*

Prepare yourself for a lengthy explanation ahead. *flies away*

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:27 am

....something here reminds me of Röykksop.

DBZGTKOSDH · Post by **DBZGTKOSDH** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:32 am

ABED wrote:What Toriyama writes is canon.

Says who? Has Toriyama, or someone from Shueisha or Toei ever said that "canon is whatever Toriyama wrote"? Like Fox666 said, there is not an official canon for Dragon Ball. You can have a personal canon for yourself only, but you can't say that the movies, filers, GT, or DBO are non-canon, because none of them are not canon, or are canon.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:35 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
ABED wrote:What Toriyama writes is canon.
Says who? Has Toriyama, or someone from Shueisha or Toei ever said that "canon is whatever Toriyama wrote"? Like Fox666 said, there is not an official canon for Dragon Ball. You can have a personal canon for yourself only, but you can't say that the movies, filers, GT, or DBO are non-canon, because none of them are not canon, or are canon.

This begs the question, "what do you think canon means?"

Eire · Post by **Eire** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:40 am

All roads lead to Rome, family dinner talks always lead to politics, on Kanzenshuu everything leads to canon questions.

JeffJarrett · Post by **JeffJarrett** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:58 am

Eire wrote:All roads lead to Rome, family dinner talks always lead to politics, on Kanzenshuu everything leads to canon questions.

true

Kanzenshuu

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