Biggest DB disappointment

[PrinceVegetto]

I always thought it'd be cool to see Pan go Super Saiyan. There were so many moments that would lead you to think that she would...

[rereboy]

Beyond that...I'd have to say the VizBigs, in retrospect anyway, and Dragon Ball Evolution. For the VizBigs, they are still the best way to get the manga right now IMO, but when I look back and forth between the Rurouni Kenshin ones (which I have all of) and the DB/Z ones (which I have only a few so far)...the Dragon Ball ones just seem so lazy. Whereas the Rurouni Kenshin ones come with detailed Japanese history notes in the back of each omnibus (stuff that somewhat ties in to the story), all of the color pages (I don't recall any being missing anyway), and two of the bonus post-series one-shots that Watsuki did for the series...the Dragon Ball ones just slap the singles into a bigger book, without even restoring all the color pages, and not giving any other cool extras (like the Kanzenban ending, or the one chapter of Neko Majin Z they'd translated, or something). It just feels so lackluster in comparision.

So... Because they weren't perfect, they were a disappointment? They had more stuff than the regular release, high quality paper, most of the color pages printed in color and were cheaper than the regular release. Seems pretty great to me, even if not perfect. I mean, if you were expecting it to be a full Kanzenban release then I understand why its a big disappointment, otherwise I don't.

Oh, and Kenshin's Vizbigs are missing a couple of colored pages. The only reason why it didn't lack more was because there were so few color pages to begin with (compared to Dragon Ball). As for the history notes, they were already included in the regular release and only one of the bonus stories wasn't present in the regular release.

[superkakarrot2]

Dragon Ball SD. I was randomly browsing Dragon Ball related stuff on the internet and found an article claiming that Akira Toriyama was doing a new Dragon Ball manga. Of course being a Dragon Ball fan I was rather excited about this. I was disappointed to find out it was just the same story I already knew drawn by someone else with big heads and parts cut out and shortened.

[Gyt Kaliba]

So... Because they weren't perfect, they were a disappointment? They had more stuff than the regular release, high quality paper, most of the color pages printed in color and were cheaper than the regular release. Seems pretty great to me, even if not perfect. I mean, if you were expecting it to be a full Kanzenban release then I understand why its a big disappointment, otherwise I don't.

Oh, and Kenshin's Vizbigs are missing a couple of colored pages. The only reason why it didn't lack more was because there were so few color pages to begin with (compared to Dragon Ball). As for the history notes, they were already included in the regular release and only one of the bonus stories wasn't present in the regular release.

This is why I said they were just disappointing in 'retrospect'. They're still the best release for the series, but overall, they could have been a lot better too.

I couldn't remember for sure if Kenshin did have all or just most of the color pages. As for the history notes, were they really there in the single releases? I never owned those myself, but I don't remember seeing them in the back of the ones I borrowed from a friend. The first bonus chapter, 'Yahiko no Sakabato', was never in the single release - it was just in a special issue of the English Shonen Jump magazine, so it was nice to get it in an actual volume so I didn't have to keep that issue anymore. Viz could have done the same with that one Neko Majin chapter, or at least nabbed the Kanzenban ending, to add something 'new' to their Dragon Ball VizBigs, but they didn't. So again, I'm not saying the VizBigs are bad by any means - I just feel they could have been even better, and that thought makes them slightly disappointing when I look back on them.

[Ringworm128]

My main problem is that it's hit and miss, there are some scenes that made me go "if I didn't know any better I'd assume the animation was done within the past few years" while others looked blurry or like they were MS Paint cartoons. Though maybe it was for the best considering how ugly some of the new animation can look.
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Seriously look at Freeza and how off he looks.

[DarkPrince_92]

Scratch what I said about Kai being reanimated.... Evolution wins. People who had already mocked Dragon Ball for what it was, had gotten this as a go-to to continue mocking it.

[Ringworm128]

Wait you had high expectations for DBE?

[DarkPrince_92]

No, the announcement of DBE and seeing the early, EARLY development. Later on I could see that it would be.... whatever it was.

[rereboy]

This is why I said they were just disappointing in 'retrospect'. They're still the best release for the series, but overall, they could have been a lot better too.

I couldn't remember for sure if Kenshin did have all or just most of the color pages. As for the history notes, were they really there in the single releases? I never owned those myself, but I don't remember seeing them in the back of the ones I borrowed from a friend. The first bonus chapter, 'Yahiko no Sakabato', was never in the single release - it was just in a special issue of the English Shonen Jump magazine, so it was nice to get it in an actual volume so I didn't have to keep that issue anymore. Viz could have done the same with that one Neko Majin chapter, or at least nabbed the Kanzenban ending, to add something 'new' to their Dragon Ball VizBigs, but they didn't. So again, I'm not saying the VizBigs are bad by any means - I just feel they could have been even better, and that thought makes them slightly disappointing when I look back on them.

I just find it weird that you find them disappointing enough to mention them in a biggest db disappointment topic while praising Kenshin's Vizbigs, when Kenshin's Vizbigs are practically the same. The only difference is that the added bonus were better than the ones of the DB Vizbigs (which were basically just some extra Toriyama illustrations), but the standard release of Kenshin was already better than DB's standard release in that regard.

[Kid Buu]

The fandom's general interpretation of Gohan's speech to Cell as "random pacifism".

Then what is your interpretation?

No fight between Piccolo and Vegeta ever occurred.

Vegeta fought a clone of Piccolo inside of Buu's body in Z filler.

[Vice]

Hmm..what else..I am disappointed what was done with Gohan at the end of the Cell saga and Buu saga. First he wants to get stronger and fight so he can protect everyone, angry with himself that he has always been a letdown in the past and when he finally gets his chance to prove himself against Cell, he drops the ball entirely for a pacifist act. And THEN, we get him in Mystic Form, ready and willing to obliterate Buu (not to mention handing the Bubblegum wad his elastic pink ass) only to drop a earring and get absorbed so Vegito could make his debut.

I never go a day without thinking how royally screwed over he was both character wise, and story wise.

This is just straight up bullshit whining from a fandom who are clearly never going to be satisfied. Gohan got more than anyone in the series not named Goku, please stop bitching about it.

[TheGmGoken]

Hmm..what else..I am disappointed what was done with Gohan at the end of the Cell saga and Buu saga. First he wants to get stronger and fight so he can protect everyone, angry with himself that he has always been a letdown in the past and when he finally gets his chance to prove himself against Cell, he drops the ball entirely for a pacifist act. And THEN, we get him in Mystic Form, ready and willing to obliterate Buu (not to mention handing the Bubblegum wad his elastic pink ass) only to drop a earring and get absorbed so Vegito could make his debut.

I never go a day without thinking how royally screwed over he was both character wise, and story wise.

This is just straight up bullshit whining from a fandom who are clearly never going to be satisfied. Gohan got more than anyone in the series not named Goku, please stop bitching about it.

Damn dude calm down. They was expressing how they feel. Even though I feel Piccolo got more than Gohan. Besides they wasn't saying he was screwed for the whole story. Just from Cell Games to the end. Like be honest. He wants to fight and then he doesn't. Then in The boo arc when Gohan finally can stick to 1 character Gohan get fucked over. Buit seriously calm down. It's their opinion. No need to "BITCH" about their opinion.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

FUNimation's redubbing of the first two seasons back in 2005/2006 being updated versions of their original broadcasted dialogue, and not being more faithful to the Japanese dialogue.

Every DBZ game after the first Raging Blast.

FUNimation's new Blu-Ray release.

Anything DBZ related after the Cell Saga (I like to pretend the Buu Saga never existed).


Won't mention DBE as a disappointment, as I already knew the movie was gonna suck.

[SSJ3_Gogeta]

My big DB disappointments are:

Orange bricks and upcoming Blu-Rays being cropped with poor quality images
FUNimation dragon boxes getting discontinued (and no boxes for the movies on the horizon).
Video games after Raging Blast 2 sucking
Ditching creative what-if characters after Budokai 2 (rampant SSJ3s in Raging Blast and Heroes isn't creative)
Improper placement of Kikuchi score in Kai after Yamamoto scandal
No international release for recent handheld games (Ultimate Mission, J Legend Retsuden etc.)

[dbzfan7]

This is just straight up bullshit whining from a fandom who are clearly never going to be satisfied. Gohan got more than anyone in the series not named Goku, please stop bitching about it.

Well I'm free to think you calling it bullshit is bullshit too .

Damn dude calm down. They was expressing how they feel. Even though I feel Piccolo got more than Gohan. Besides they wasn't saying he was screwed for the whole story. Just from Cell Games to the end. Like be honest. He wants to fight and then he doesn't. Then in The boo arc when Gohan finally can stick to 1 character Gohan get fucked over. Buit seriously calm down. It's their opinion. No need to "BITCH" about their opinion.

It's funny how he constantly bitches at people who share this thought. This isn't the first time he rudely called this opinion bullshit.

[Pantalones]

1: GT.

2: Yamamoto music removed from Kai and replaced with "same old stuff, now with 3.2 times the repetitiveness!"... I wish they could've at least waited for the entire series to come out on DVD in English before pulling the music-swap.

3: They never did come out with an Attack of the Saiyans sequel. I wanted a full series of DBZ RPGs...

[dprez]

The English DRAGONBOX sets being limited editions and most likely never getting ones for the original series or GT.

This for me by far. The first FUNi dub and their treatment of the series is almost as bad though.

[sangofe]

I'd say the cancelation of the Level Sets. When it comes to anime... Yeah, obviously DBGT. It looked so darn cool after one clip I'd see of it back in 1997...

[Ajay]

I guess my biggest disappointment is with Funimation. They're solely responsible for the misguided and twisted view of the series that the general fandom has with the show.

Can you imagine if they'd done it right in the first place?

- We'd have no arguing over music replacement.
- Character portrayal arguments would be non-existent.
- Kai would have been advertised properly and we wouldn't get a bunch of morons whining about how it's 'for kids'.
- We wouldn't have the goddamn 'it's over 9000' meme.
- No more Ocean/Westwood vs Funimation debates

Man, it would be so nice to have a fandom that isn't divided as much as it is now. It'd be smaller but damn, it'd be way more tight knit.

Yeah, people would likely argue to the death over Japanese vs. English but that's the same with every anime. You just have to do your best to ignore that.

Perhaps if this dream scenario had happened, Funi might have actually treated the show with some damn respect and not butchered its visuals with this latest Blu-Ray.

[TheAldella]

- No more Ocean/Westwood vs Funimation debates

Well...I sometimes dip my hand into that pool from time-to-time because I enjoy both, but Damn, Brian Drummond, man. His scenes alone make me want to throw knives at FUNimation alone. XD

But asiiiiide from that, I'd say the BLT dub of Dragon Ball not continuing. I rewatched my 13 episode DVD set hundreds of times as a kid...