How did Bulma survive Vegeta?

[superfunk]

More like how did Vegeta climb out of that canyon?

Bulma's taken more poundings than Yamucha and Kuririn combined. That Capsule Corp building doubles as her diaphragm.

And lest we think I'm being sexist, it doesn't help that she was Yamucha's girlfriend, and he's got more STDs than the Center for Disease Control can diagnose. You think I'm exaggerating? Pu'er isn't a cat, he's a crab louse. He didn't live in the desert for nothing. He was exiled and quarantined. Same reason Muten Roshi lives on an island.

Fortunately, Vegeta uses fire as a contraceptive. Goku uses baguettes.

I agree, knocking bulma up and being able to escape was vegeta's greatest achievement, at least for a short while. Somehow she pulled him back in after the cell saga, he tried to escape during the buu saga but he failed, he was then trapped in that canyon forever.

[Sylveon]

Oh wow. Slut-shaming and Vegeta-apologism in the Dragon Ball fandom? I am surprised.

Yeah, how can that genocidal maniac who murdered billions of sentient beings stand being around that bitch who occasionally yells at him for being an asshole?

[petronka101]

Oh wow. Slut-shaming and Vegeta-apologism in the Dragon Ball fandom? I am surprised.

Yeah, how can that genocidal maniac who murdered billions of sentient beings stand being around that bitch who occasionally yells at him for being an asshole?

I was actually following this thread, wondering how much time it would take before somebody brought up the slut jokes, applicable to any woman who is loose enough to dare to have a previous longtime relationship. It was a good run though, I have to admit.

And for what is worth, he obviously feels warm and fuzzy "trapped in that canyon" (whatever that means) or he would’ve gone back to space right after the Cell saga.

[Fizzer]

One of the things that I love about Bulma is that she's promiscuous, flirtatious and kind of easy but she's proud of it. It's like she's thirty years early to the anti-slut-shaming movement. For her to be like that and it not be portrayed in a negative way at all is really quite before its time.

[DBZAOTA482]

Oh wow. Slut-shaming and Vegeta-apologism in the Dragon Ball fandom? I am surprised.

Yeah, how can that genocidal maniac who murdered billions of sentient beings stand being around that bitch who occasionally yells at him for being an asshole?

Who the hell is shaming Bulma in this thread?

[jjgp1112]

I hate how in the post-Tumblr world we can't even have a light-hearted conversation without things turning into a sexism debate.

[superfunk]

Oh wow. Slut-shaming and Vegeta-apologism in the Dragon Ball fandom? I am surprised.

Yeah, how can that genocidal maniac who murdered billions of sentient beings stand being around that bitch who occasionally yells at him for being an asshole?

I was actually following this thread, wondering how much time it would take before somebody brought up the slut jokes, applicable to any woman who is loose enough to dare to have a previous longtime relationship. It was a good run though, I have to admit.

And for what is worth, he obviously feels warm and fuzzy "trapped in that canyon" (whatever that means) or he would’ve gone back to space right after the Cell saga.

what i wrote was a joke, this topic is absurd so i gave an absurd reply.

[dragondyle]

Not sure if anyone beat me to it but my exact thought when I read the title of the thread was "better question is: "how did Vegeta survive Bulma?"

[Sylveon]

In my experience, a woman can even be called a slut when she's actually REJECTING sex. I really don't understand society sometimes.

This is why I try to avoid most parts of the online DB fandom. Whenever a discussion about the female characters come up, it's always about how Chi-Chi's a screaming overprotective evil harpy wife and mother(she was married to a man with the IQ of a teaspoon and her 5 year old son was fighting evil aliens and going into space. I think her reactions are pretty justified considering) or about how Bulma's a stupid slut who's probably crawling with STDs. Never mind that she's only had two lovers that we know of, her attempts at flirting always seem to fail, the only guys who actually seem to find her attractive are an old man(who actually doesn't really like her that much because she's "built like a boy") and a pig, and she was apparently so socially inept that she had to resort to using the Dragon Balls to get a boyfriend. I... can't really imagine her getting much D, considering all that. (Oh, I forgot. Bulma must be a rapist, because apparently promiscuity = rapist now.)

One of the things that I love about Bulma is that she's promiscuous, flirtatious and kind of easy but she's proud of it. It's like she's thirty years early to the anti-slut-shaming movement. For her to be like that and it not be portrayed in a negative way at all is really quite before its time.

Pretty much this. I've never really been too sure why people think this is a *negative* character trait. I mean, yeah at the beginning she does try to use her sexuality to her advantage(although I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing) and she does find a lot of.... questionable guys attractive, but I do like the fact that she isn't afraid to be sexual.

Who the hell is shaming Bulma in this thread?

There are a couple of comments in this thread I could name, but I don't really want to call anyone out directly(admittedly, I could just be reading too much into them). Or maybe I was just preparing for the barrage of sexist comments I believed were coming. I've been a lurker here for about 5 years now, and whenever a discussion about Bulma in any capacity comes up(at least in my experience), there's always a few requisite comments about how she's "crawling with STDs" or jokes about how she probably raped Vegeta. I might just be an overly-sensitive feminist, but as a woman, I always feel so unwelcome and really uncomfortable whenever these subjects come up.

I think I may have turned this thread slightly off-topic now. I apologise.

[PhoenixEX]

Oh man now you're all putting unwanted images in my head...haha.
I'm going to guess that whatever happened in Bulma's bedroom stayed in Bulma's bedroom...

[petronka101]

I hate how in the post-Tumblr world we can't even have a light-hearted conversation without things turning into a sexism debate.

I don't even know what to say to that... I was going to come back with a snarky remark but I rather not alienate other people who can actually understand the point being made here. And for the record, I don't even have a tumblr account. I hate tumblr, people hypocritically shut others up if they dare to express a "mainstream" opinion. Hell, people are getting hate messages for liking "Frozen".

Also, I was one of the first persons to participate in this thread, and took it as a light hearted question but I took genuine offense to the canyon comment (we all know what that means). There are people here who get all riled up when Yamcha is described as a scumbag. Two people took offense to Bulma being compared to a canyon and now we are the dark side of tumblr.

@Fizzer I agree that Bulma was well advanced for her time. However, the thing about her being promiscuous is debatable. . There’s a BIG difference between being flirtatious and being promiscuous. Being flirtatious will get you out of a parking ticket, being promiscuous can potentially get you an STD. And the same goes with Yamcha, I never thought of him as promiscuous either.

[DBZAOTA482]

Not sure if anyone beat me to it but my exact thought when I read the title of the thread was "better question is: "how did Vegeta survive Bulma?"

Yo.

[Kid Buu]

In my experience, a woman can even be called a slut when she's actually REJECTING sex. I really don't understand society sometimes.

Me neither.

If a male character bangs plenty of females he'd be praised for it.

If a female character bangs plenty of males she'd be criticized for it.

The fuck?

[superfunk]

I hate how in the post-Tumblr world we can't even have a light-hearted conversation without things turning into a sexism debate.

I don't even know what to say to that... I was going to come back with a snarky remark but I rather not alienate other people who can actually understand the point being made here. And for the record, I don't even have a tumblr account. I hate tumblr, people hypocritically shut others up if they dare to express a "mainstream" opinion. Hell, people are getting hate messages for liking "Frozen".

Also, I was one of the first persons to participate in this thread, and took it as a light hearted question but I took genuine offense to the canyon comment (we all know what that means). There are people here who get all riled up when Yamcha is described as a scumbag. Two people took offense to Bulma being compared to a canyon and now we are the dark side of tumblr.

@Fizzer I agree that Bulma was well advanced for her time. However, the thing about her being promiscuous is debatable. . There’s a BIG difference between being flirtatious and being promiscuous. Being flirtatious will get you out of a parking ticket, being promiscuous can potentially get you an STD. And the same goes with Yamcha, I never thought of him as promiscuous either.

It depends what he meant by the word promiscuous, it doesn't always have a sexual meaning . At its base it means indiscriminate or casual. Bulma flirted Promiscuously since there was a wide array of men she found attractive. She wasn't sexually promiscuous since she only slept with two guys( at least that we know of) who both turned out to be long term partners.

[petronka101]

It depends what he meant by the word promiscuous, it doesn't always have a sexual meaning . At its base it means indiscriminate or casual. Bulma flirted Promiscuously since there was a wide array of men she found attractive. She wasn't sexually promiscuous since she only slept with two guys( at least that we know of) who both turned out to be long term partners.

I think the context was pretty clear but I'm glad that we agree on the lack of evidence regarding Bulma's alleged sexual promiscuity.

As for the thread, and I speak only for me but I can take anything for the sake of a good laugh as long as we are not actively promoting popular negative stereotypes, or targeting particular groups. The thing about Bulma forcing Vegeta. I know some of my friends find that offensive. I find it ridicuolous and it's not beneath me to imply it and get a kick out of it. As you said, it's ridicoulous and physically impossible. If Vegeta were a child or a teen instead of a homicidal maniac alien, then that would be different.

I took particullary offense with your comment because it's very common on shounen forums to label strong-willed, flirtatious women as sluts. The common thinking is that with calling or implying that a woman is a slut, she's beneath the male character and quickly becomes the butt joke of the thread just for being a woman. I don't think I would've minded your post so much if you had taken some punches at Yamcha and Vegeta as well.

In any case, based on your last reply I gather you didn't mean to offend but that's how it came across when I first read it.

[Fizzer]

When I describe Bulma as promiscuous, I'm thinking of the time she offered to let Goku touch her butt when he'd shown no interest in doing so, and the time she was happy to show Muten Roshi her underwear for a mystery gift. She also very quickly and easily shows strong interest in men that seems to amount to wanting the D. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking of Yamcha, Blue and Zarbon. I think she'd bang adult Goku if given the chance, too, but that's pretty much speculation. That isn't a bad thing, which is what I was saying, but that's what makes me call her promiscuous. Many would say she has loose sexual morals, but I don't believe in a direct connection between sex and morality.

[penguintruth]

Seriously, who let the "check your privilege" in?

This entire conversation is too absurd to even be considered from a serious angle.

[petronka101]

When I describe Bulma as promiscuous, I'm thinking of the time she offered to let Goku touch her butt when he'd shown no interest in doing so, and the time she was happy to show Muten Roshi her underwear for a mystery gift. She also very quickly and easily shows strong interest in men that seems to amount to wanting the D. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking of Yamcha, Blue and Zarbon. I think she'd bang adult Goku if given the chance, too, but that's pretty much speculation. That isn't a bad thing, which is what I was saying, but that's what makes me call her promiscuous. Many would say she has loose sexual morals, but I don't believe in a direct connection between sex and morality.

It's debatable and I wouldn't think less of her character if that was the case. Just that I have a different opinion on how far she was willing to go, considering she is shown to be very innocent at the age of siteeen, when she sees Goku naked and wonders if all boys have tails

[Fizzer]

When I describe Bulma as promiscuous, I'm thinking of the time she offered to let Goku touch her butt when he'd shown no interest in doing so, and the time she was happy to show Muten Roshi her underwear for a mystery gift. She also very quickly and easily shows strong interest in men that seems to amount to wanting the D. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking of Yamcha, Blue and Zarbon. I think she'd bang adult Goku if given the chance, too, but that's pretty much speculation. That isn't a bad thing, which is what I was saying, but that's what makes me call her promiscuous. Many would say she has loose sexual morals, but I don't believe in a direct connection between sex and morality.

It's debatable and I wouldn't think less of her character if that was the case. Just that I have a different opinion on how far she was willing to go, considering she is shown to be very innocent at the age of siteeen, when she sees Goku naked and wonders if all boys have tails

It depends on your definition of promiscuous. I thought that fit the definition. I think, once she got with Yamcha, she became much less innocent. As I originally said, I think she's a better character because of this stuff, I certainly don't think less of her.

[petronka101]

On that note, I wonder how much experience Vegeta had prior to meeting Bulma. I mean, with the Saiyans gone... what did other aliens look like?. Scary images of female Ginyus come to mind.

Edit: well, If anyone is interested, here's a theory.

http://lillykitten.deviantart.com/art/S ... -311411536