Out of Character Moments in the series

[SSJ3_Zack]

Son Gohan was not out of character during the Cell arc. I swear this topic gets brought up everywhere I go these days. .

I know he is a Filler character but Pikkon was Out of character in the Fusion Reborn film.
He had a more calm and collected demeanor in the Other world filler arc. Where as in the film he seems to get flustered rather easily.

[thatdbzguy]

We aren't talking about when Cell is beating up Gohan's loved ones.

He was OOC there,too. I don't understand what Toriyama was thinking when he was writing Gohan's character here. At least with SSJ2, Gohan had an excuse for his OOC-ness.

[SSJ3_Zack]

He was OOC there,too. I don't understand what Toriyama was thinking when he was writing Gohan's character here. At least with SSJ2, Gohan had an excuse for his OOC-ness.

He did the same thing with Nappa (freezing in fear/despair).

[ABED]

Actually Gohan was very much in character then. Even if I believe Gohan should've been more ready and willing to fight Cell, at this point, Gohan would definitely feel a sense of helplessness at seeing his friends and dad being hurt, and not being able to do anything about it.

How was Gohan not in character when he turned SS2?

[MediaFanGirl93]

How was Gohan not in character when he turned SS2?

Well, while his anger was justified, saying that he wanted someone to suffer (granted Cell deserved it) is against his "nice guy personality.

[ABED]

It's clear that initial Super Saiyan transformations do affect personality, so I don't think it's bad writing.

[DBZAOTA482]

This turning into another debate on Gohan's characterization during the Cell Games. Gotta keep the main topic on the road.

I know this has been debated a few times, but how do you guys feel about characters being out of characters. Such as:

* Goku giving Cell a Senzu Bean.
* Vegeta in one Broly movie moping around and Piccolo snapping him out of it.
* I know this is filler, but when Goku angrily refused food from Annin ("I'm not hungry!!!") because he was trying to save Chi-Chi's castle. Also, he was being rude to Grandpa Gohan.

1. It's not the first time Goku put having fair, manly fight over the survival of humanity. He did the same thing with Piccolo, even fed him a senzu after beating him soundly.
2. That one I agree.
3. I think they were trying to show how serious Goku about getting the job done but yeah, Goku was uncharacteristically rude.

Also, I must add that a lot of the stuff leading up to Majin Boo's revival is pretty OOC such as Goku casually going along with Kaioshin's rather shitty plan or Goku and Gohan making a game out of the whole prdeal on the Spaceship (Goku can be selfish when it comes to a good fight and the fate of the earth but he's not that reckless).

[ABED]

Gotta keep the main topic on the road.

It's not off topic.

1. It's not the first time Goku put having fair, manly fight over the survival of humanity.

I don't think that was his reason. As mentioned before, he knew how much stronger Gohan was than Cell even at his full power. The senzu changed nothing. SS2 Gohan vs Cell wasn't a fair fight, and by that I mean Cell wasn't on Gohan's level.

[DBZAOTA482]

It's not off topic.

It's may not be off topic, but it's something that's been dragged through the mud lately.

I don't think that was his reason. As mentioned before, he knew how much stronger Gohan was than Cell even at his full power. The senzu changed nothing. SS2 Gohan vs Cell wasn't a fair fight, and by that I mean Cell wasn't on Gohan's level.

There's no reason expletively given for why he pulled such an outrageous stunt but he does state that it wouldn't be "fair" if Gohan beat Cell when he was still somewhat exhausted so it's debatable.

[ABED]

It's not a stunt. That senzu was not going to change ANYTHING about the outcome of the fight. Gohan was overwhelmingly stronger than Cell, he just needed to access that power.

[MediaFanGirl93]

3. I think they were trying to show how serious Goku about getting the job done but yeah, Goku was uncharacteristically rude.

Yeah, understandable. I always laughed when Goku actually refused food, because this is a stark comparison to when he ate food after Videl was injured from the Spopovich battle.

[DBZAOTA482]

It's not a stunt. That senzu was not going to change ANYTHING about the outcome of the fight. Gohan was overwhelmingly stronger than Cell, he just needed to access that power.

It's still reckless considering he didn't even consult Gohan about his plan.

3. I think they were trying to show how serious Goku about getting the job done but yeah, Goku was uncharacteristically rude.

Yeah, understandable. I always laughed when Goku actually refused food, because this is a stark comparison to when he ate food after Videl was injured from the Spopovich battle.

Filler.

[Puto]

Son Gohan was not out of character during the Cell arc. I swear this topic gets brought up everywhere I go these days. :lol:.

To me, it feels more like he froze up because everything was depending on him rather than just being afraid of Cell. See, in other situations where he fought, he was never fighting by himself while everyone was just depending on him — he was fighting alongside his friends. The Cell Games is the first time where the situation is entirely and exclusively ‘it's all up to you, Gohan’; ‘you're the only one who can do anything about this’; literally everything and everyone was centred on him. That's a lot of pressure to live up to, and it's compounded even more with the fact that he's being outright asked to completely lose control of himself. Is it any wonder he froze up?

[ABED]

It's still reckless considering he didn't even consult Gohan about his plan.

True, but that has nothing to do with the senzu, and I imagine that Goku not telling his son had more to do with Toriyama trying to create surprise and drama than anything to do with character.

[MediaFanGirl93]

Yeah, understandable. I always laughed when Goku actually refused food, because this is a stark comparison to when he ate food after Videl was injured from the Spopovich battle.

Filler.[/quote]

I know that. Those scenes are both filler anyway.

[Saiga]

I really prefer the first filler scene. The second just makes Goku seems like a huge asshole, especially when he can teleport so it's not like he'd miss out on any food. Nothing suggests that adult Goku is that obsessed with food to ignore people in danger in favour of it.

[coola]

Kami when he fought Yamucha at 23th Tenkaichi Budokai - i know it was suppose to teach Yamucha to not judge book by its cover, but, i think he got little too far in humilating him, at least at beginning of fight.

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We don't really know that much about Kami. I think he was just having a little fun.

[MediaFanGirl93]

I really prefer the first filler scene. The second just makes Goku seems like a huge asshole, especially when he can teleport so it's not like he'd miss out on any food. Nothing suggests that adult Goku is that obsessed with food to ignore people in danger in favour of it.

Agreed. At least with the first scene, Goku had a reason to be angry, even though he shouldn't have been rude. The second one is inexcusable.

BTW, nice icon!

[Saiga]

I really prefer the first filler scene. The second just makes Goku seems like a huge asshole, especially when he can teleport so it's not like he'd miss out on any food. Nothing suggests that adult Goku is that obsessed with food to ignore people in danger in favour of it.

Agreed. At least with the first scene, Goku had a reason to be angry, even though he shouldn't have been rude. The second one is inexcusable.

BTW, nice icon!

Thanks! Yeah, I have no idea what the writing team were thinking with the second scene.