I was officially done with the Super anime after one scene.

[FortuneSSJ]

But Super is just obnoxiously doing its best to be as mediocre as humanly possible when it really doesn't need to be concerning everything outside the slice of life stuff.

That seems like bullshit to me. Super is mixing DB comedy with DBZ action. There's nothing wrong wih that.

Also:
-The pacing is good and much better than DBZ ever was.
- Aside from some parts of episode 5, the animation is not the shit people make it out to be.

Some people are butthurt that started with retellings, but nobody is forcing them to watch everything. Bitching about Goku's girly japanese voice became old, so they must find another things to complain. Those people don't even seem to be seeing Super for entertainment anymore, they are just looking for the next shot to complain.

Reminds me of ROF reception in the beginning.
People that didn't like the plot, wanted the movie to flop. That's stupid.

Fans don't want the series they like to flop, despite if they like the content or not.
If something flops, the chances of getting another product becomes smaller. Instead, if you just support it and speak louder about what needs to be fixed, your wishes may come true.

Example: ROF having much more action than BOG.

When people have over a decade to build up expectations, they tend to be so specific, particular, and unrealistic that it's unlikely that they're going to have those expectations met. Duke Nukem Forever is another good example.

You just described Final Fantasy 15/Kingdom Hearts 3 future.

[Tsufuru]

ok , this is cleary gettin out of control.

dropping super cuz goku had a funny moment?
stop complaining about everything.

you know what just drop it no1 needs some1 who complains about such things.

[Dbzbabe]

You kept watching after this didn't you lol

Spoiler:

[buutenks]

needing to pee badly will make people go to extreme lengths.

Bit stupid not watching super cos of that one harmless scene.

Dont get why people complain so much about every little thing in super.

DBZ was full of flaws,boring jokes,bad animation so ye.best not to put dbz a pedestal,since it was faaar from perfect same as super.

[sintzu]

DBZ was full of flaws,boring jokes,bad animation so ye.best not to put dbz a pedestal,since it was faaar from perfect same as super.

But unlike Super the major battles were always worth the wait especially the final ones which is something I can't say for Super as of now.

[ekrolo2]

But Super is just obnoxiously doing its best to be as mediocre as humanly possible when it really doesn't need to be concerning everything outside the slice of life stuff.

That seems like bullshit to me. Super is mixing DB comedy with DBZ action. There's nothing wrong wih that.

Also:
-The pacing is good and much better than DBZ ever was.
- Aside from some parts of episode 5, the animation is not the shit people make it out to be.

Some people are butthurt that started with retellings, but nobody is forcing them to watch everything. Bitching about Goku's girly japanese voice became old, so they must find another things to complain. Those people don't even seem to be seeing Super for entertainment anymore, they are just looking for the next shot to complain.

Reminds me of ROF reception in the beginning.
People that didn't like the plot, wanted the movie to flop. That's stupid.

Fans don't want the series they like to flop, despite if they like the content or not.
If something flops, the chances of getting another product becomes smaller. Instead, if you just support it and speak louder about what needs to be fixed, your wishes may come true.

Example: ROF having much more action than BOG.

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None of the problems you listed are the reasons why I find the show mediocre. The animation quality is jerky and wonky to be sure but its not my primary issue, its the new art style: it blows. Everyone looks too shiny and blocky and completely roided out to the point of absurdity. At least the old way of animating things managed to make the Boo era art look appealing, now its fucking hideous.

The pacing might be good for Z standards but in comparison to BoG its awful. Even BoGs directors cut was dragging its feet because its not a story that warrants much time devoted to it, now if the re-tellings weren't going in with the mentality of "Lets drag this shit out as much as humanly possible" with BoG while managing to cut good stuff out, I wouldn't care. Toei did a fine job re-telling the first few DB sagas with Mystical Adventure and Path to Power so I know they can do that stuff well, Super isn't like those, not at all.

Super only works with the slice of life episodes and comedy, everything else ranges from mediocre to garbage.

Then with F they've managed to take a hollow, pointless movie that had genuine potential and they've done nothing to improve on it and now the animation & fighting choreography, which were Fs sole saving graces, are gonna suck now too.

Once again, asking for the new content to also at the very least be good isn't asking too much. If it is well then, let the series stay dead as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather not see any new story material then have most of the new material suck.

[djcoopdawg]

If people have a problem on how Goku is being portrayed, you should read the manga. Goku is behaving a lot more like how he does in the manga compared to the anime for DBZ.

[Blackstripe]

But unlike Super the major battles were always worth the wait especially the final ones which is something I can't say for Super as of now.

Only because you've seen them before in the movies.

[Araki]

But unlike Super the major battles were always worth the wait especially the final ones which is something I can't say for Super as of now.

Only because you've seen them before in the movies.

Yeah, what "major battles", exactly? Only one so far was Goku vs Beerus, and i found it better than the movie version, like many others.

ok , this is cleary gettin out of control.

dropping super cuz goku had a funny moment?
stop complaining about everything.

you know what just drop it no1 needs some1 who complains about such things.

Well, if it actually makes him drop the series and we don't have threads like this one anymore, that's great.

[Soppa Saia People]

wrong and dumb.

[Tsufuru]

super actualy is gettin better.

and what major battles lmao , its been only one real fight.

[DBZAOTA482]

If people have a problem on how Goku is being portrayed, you should read the manga. Goku is behaving a lot more like how he does in the manga compared to the anime for DBZ.

I think you're talking about the dub. Because Goku in the JP version is pretty close to his manga counterpart.

Not quite, the anime plays up his childishness quite a bit in some filler.

[Soppa Saia People]

If people have a problem on how Goku is being portrayed, you should read the manga. Goku is behaving a lot more like how he does in the manga compared to the anime for DBZ.

I think you're talking about the dub. Because Goku in the JP version is pretty close to his manga counterpart.

Not quite, the anime plays up his childishness quite a bit in some filler.

Oops I assumed that he/she was talking about how in Z he acted was way off compared to the manga.

[Chuquita]

Gokû has seemed cuter in Super (which is one of those things I can't personality complain about because "cute Gokû moments" are a guilty pleasure for me), but I haven't seen Z in a while so I could be mistaken as to differences between Z's Gokû and Super's Gokû.

[Vynak]

Goku had always been like this but this particular scene isn't even that bad, he's basically peeing off a platform on some weird massive tree. Whis didn't even seem to care and presumably the only reason Vegeta cared is because he'd probably have to clean it up during his chores.

As far as 'Maid Vegeta' goes, it's nice to see Vegeta in some comedic light as long as it's not overdone (it has run a fine line though). There wasnt really an opportunity to use him like this until the Buu saga and really, who doesn't want to see him squirm in awkward situations.

[EXBadguy]

I gotta say, sometimes things like this make me wish that Toei did some of the characters of Super instead of Toriyama to be honest. Sure, the Toei Goku ain't good too, but at least that version had a little more common sense and maturity.

You kept watching after this didn't you lol

Spoiler:

A freaking kid did that!

[Doctor.]

I gotta say, sometimes things like this make me wish that Toei did some of the characters of Super instead of Toriyama to be honest. Sure, the Toei Goku ain't good too, but at least that version had a little more common sense and maturity.

This is Toei Goku, Toriyama isn't writing every single episode or every single scene.

[Chuquita]

I second that this is Toei!Gokû. It's a different writer at Toei than whoever was writing him for them in Z, but I still think it's Toei. Toriyama!Gokû isn't this sweet (but I've been enjoying the sweet so I can't complain.) ^^;

[EXBadguy]

Fuck it, OLD Toei Goku, then.

[BluePiccolo]

Just adding my 2 cents

It wasn't the pee scene alone that made that episode awkward.
In my opinion it was the tip of the iceberg after a dozen of scenes with Goku being impatient and irritating the entire episode.
It's like literally looking at original Dragon Ball Goku and pretending it's OK to act the same way 300 episodes and 30 years later.

I wouldn't really bring this up on my own, I just figured I should share my opinion since why not.

Osu