Thoughts on Piccolo Daimao

[TheUltimateVegito]

I'm not following this train of thought. How does Piccolo killing humanity have anything to do with Kami much less prove that fact? And what does his eternal life have to do with anything? Do we even know he has eternal life?

Because he'd have been able to rule humanity for eternity (Or an exceptionally long time) if not for Kami. If Kami didn't exist then he probably wouldn't have wipe out humanity like he was planning to, showing his actions are mainly a result of Kami's existence as well as his own personal enjoyment.

I'm still not following this. I don't recall him ever caring to rule humanity. His plan was always to kill everyone eventually. If Kami can stop him from ruling over humanity for a long period of time, why wouldn't he stop Piccolo from killing humanity?

Because Kami would die too remember? That's all the more reason why King Piccolo would want to wipe out humanity, before they could do anything with Kami or Kami devising a means to stop him. Kami is not allowed to kill himself and the only way to stop Piccolo at the time was to kill him.

King Piccolo also constantly said he wanted World Conquest. It wasn't until he announced his plans to eradicate humanity after 43 years that it was revealed otherwise.

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King Piccolo also constantly said he wanted World Conquest. It wasn't until he announced his plans to eradicate humanity after 43 years that it was revealed otherwise.

Ah, finally, I get what you're saying. I don't agree with it fully because 1 - We don't know what conquering constitutes, 2 - When he did takeover, he was going to kill people over a period of years. Remember, he was going to destroy the world one sector per year. And 3 - Kami was much stronger than Piccolo. Goku was able to defeat Piccolo, but couldn't even touch Mr. Popo who learned what he knew from Kami.

[FoolsGil]

If you take away power levels and feats of strengths, Daimao is more evil than Freeza himself. Just pure chaos for the sake of it.

[TheUltimateVegito]

King Piccolo also constantly said he wanted World Conquest. It wasn't until he announced his plans to eradicate humanity after 43 years that it was revealed otherwise.

Ah, finally, I get what you're saying. I don't agree with it fully because 1 - We don't know what conquering constitutes, 2 - When he did takeover, he was going to kill people over a period of years. Remember, he was going to destroy the world one sector per year. And 3 - Kami was much stronger than Piccolo. Goku was able to defeat Piccolo, but couldn't even touch Mr. Popo who learned what he knew from Kami.

I can't imagine King Piccolo wanting to destroy humanity without Kami's influence. Yes, I mentioned the whole sector thing and that adds to my point because Piccolo wants to torment Kami as much as possible and slowly eradicating humanity will do exactly that. Kami is stronger but, like I said, Kami stated that he's not allowed to kill himself, which worked in King Piccolo's favour.

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King Piccolo also constantly said he wanted World Conquest. It wasn't until he announced his plans to eradicate humanity after 43 years that it was revealed otherwise.

Ah, finally, I get what you're saying. I don't agree with it fully because 1 - We don't know what conquering constitutes, 2 - When he did takeover, he was going to kill people over a period of years. Remember, he was going to destroy the world one sector per year. And 3 - Kami was much stronger than Piccolo. Goku was able to defeat Piccolo, but couldn't even touch Mr. Popo who learned what he knew from Kami.

I can't imagine King Piccolo wanting to destroy humanity without Kami's influence. Yes, I mentioned the whole sector thing and that adds to my point because Piccolo wants to torment Kami as much as possible and slowly eradicating humanity will do exactly that. Kami is stronger but, like I said, Kami stated that he's not allowed to kill himself, which worked in King Piccolo's favour.

He wants to destroy humanity because he's pure evil. There's little to suggest that Piccolo is motivated by anything to do with Kami. He wants to kill people over the course of years because a quick death is too easy.

I know Kami can't kill himself, but clearly he's strong enough to subdue his other half.

[TheUltimateVegito]

He wants to destroy humanity because he's pure evil. There's little to suggest that Piccolo is motivated by anything to do with Kami. He wants to kill people over the course of years because a quick death is too easy.

I know Kami can't kill himself, but clearly he's strong enough to subdue his other half.

But Kami had no way to seal Piccolo, he didn't have anything like the mafuba until the 23rd Tournament. Plus, if Kami just kept beating up King Piccolo each time he recovered he'd probably kill himself, which I doubt Kami would want because like he said he cherishes his own life. And, when you think about it, does still count as Kami killing himself.

The things I previously stated shows there's a great deal to suggest that Piccolo was influenced by Kami. It doesn't take away from the fact that he's doing it because he's pure evil, it only adds to it. I don't recall Piccolo saying it's because a quick death is too easy, it seems more like it'd ruin the fun of it for him.

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But Kami had no way to seal Piccolo, he didn't have anything like the mafuba until the 23rd Tournament.
True, but beating him up has to be better than doing nothing.

Plus, if Kami just kept beating up King Piccolo each time he recovered he'd probably kill himself

I'm not sure what that means. Do you mean he'd eventually go to far even by accident? That's a better alternative than letting Piccolo run around killing people.

The things I previously stated shows there's a great deal to suggest that Piccolo was influenced by Kami.

But it seems less like Toriyama's implication than just you inferring. I'm not saying you're wrong for thinking that or even just incorrect, I just don't see it. I think he'd be doing what he's doing in the same exact manner regardless of if Kami existed.

I don't recall Piccolo saying it's because a quick death is too easy, it seems more like it'd ruin the fun of it for him.

It was a poor choice of words on my part, but I was saying that it was about having fun. A quick death is merciful.

[TheUltimateVegito]

But Kami had no way to seal Piccolo, he didn't have anything like the mafuba until the 23rd Tournament.
True, but beating him up has to be better than doing nothing.

Plus, if Kami just kept beating up King Piccolo each time he recovered he'd probably kill himself

I'm not sure what that means. Do you mean he'd eventually go to far even by accident? That's a better alternative than letting Piccolo run around killing people.

The things I previously stated shows there's a great deal to suggest that Piccolo was influenced by Kami.

But it seems less like Toriyama's implication than just you inferring. I'm not saying you're wrong for thinking that or even just incorrect, I just don't see it. I think he'd be doing what he's doing in the same exact manner regardless of if Kami existed.

I don't recall Piccolo saying it's because a quick death is too easy, it seems more like it'd ruin the fun of it for him.

It was a poor choice of words on my part, but I was saying that it was about having fun. A quick death is merciful.

The thought of accidentally killing Piccolo must've prevented Kami from fighting him.

And fair enough. I could see why you'd think that.

Yeah, it was also about having fun. But I don't think the whole Piccolo/Kami dynamic takes away from the idea that he's doing it for fun.

[coola]

He was pretty cool, until end, seriously, why didn't he dodge that Goku punch, it was like most telegraphic attack ever. Still, kudos for actually taking over the world, even if for short time.

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The thought of accidentally killing Piccolo must've prevented Kami from fighting him.

But he seems so far ahead of Piccolo that I don't think he was in any danger of it. Just look at how badly Goku did against Mr. Popo.

Yeah, it was also about having fun. But I don't think the whole Piccolo/Kami dynamic takes away from the idea that he's doing it for fun.

No, but my thought is that he does it for its own sake and would have regardless of Kami.