Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

[orangebrick94]

To be honest around 2003-2004 I did but because of the prolonged lull the franchise had in North America over the last decade I have been loving every minute of Dragon Ball's newfound popularity.

[sintzu]

It hasn't been perfect, but nothing ever is.

The dark knight is.

[Lord Beerus]

It hasn't been perfect, but nothing ever is.

The dark knight is.

That's subjective.

[Cipher]

Only The Great Gatsby is perfect.

I don't know if I'm fatigued yet, but I sort of miss the story being nicely complete and self-contained.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I sort of miss the story being nicely complete and self-contained.

Same. I dream of the days when I knew what I wanted to collect, and knew exactly where I planned to stop. Ever since I discovered Full Color, BoG premiered, and everything that's come since then, my collection plans are a total mess.

[ABED]

Only The Great Gatsby is perfect.

Jaws begs to differ.

The dark knight is.

I don't think that's even the best movie of that trilogy.

Anyway, yeah, I do fee fatigued. After 600 episodes, how can you not?

[Doctor.]

No, not really. If anything, I like the series more and more.

Only The Great Gatsby is perfect.

The Metamorphosis would like a word.

[ekrolo2]

I'm seeing a lot of people write Batman Begins in weird ways round these here parts.

[precita]

I'll say this again, once Masako Nozawa passes away (she's 80 now) the Dragonball franchise should end, but not before.

Once the voice actress of Goku is gone the series does not deserve to continue, it would be disrespectful. Sure the videogames/merch can continue, but new anime stuff should end. Anyone wanting to see a new VA perform as Goku after Nozawa makes me sick to my stomach.

[kinisking]

Again, someone saying this series is objectively bad when that's impossible to say.

I'll say this again, once Masako Nozawa passes away (she's 80 now) the Dragonball franchise should end, but not before.

Once the voice actress of Goku is gone the series does not deserve to continue, it would be disrespectful. Sure the videogames/merch can continue, but new anime stuff should end. Anyone wanting to see a new VA perform as Goku after Nozawa makes me sick to my stomach.

She isn't Goku to me, so frankly I don't care if we get a new voice actor. I doubt she would want dragonball to stop too.

[FortuneSSJ]

From 2009 until BOG getting announced and Toriyama return in 2012, I did.
Not anymore now.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I'll say this again, once Masako Nozawa passes away (she's 80 now) the Dragonball franchise should end, but not before.

Once the voice actress of Goku is gone the series does not deserve to continue, it would be disrespectful. Sure the videogames/merch can continue, but new anime stuff should end. Anyone wanting to see a new VA perform as Goku after Nozawa makes me sick to my stomach.

I get being super passionate about a performance, especially one as tied to what Dragon Ball is as much as Nozawa is...but that's probably going overboard, IMO. It would be like if there had never been any more Bugs Bunny after Mel Blanc died, or any more Mickey Mouse after Walt Disney died, or even no more Joker after Heath Ledger's passing away. Characters, especially strong ones, transcend their original performers, and if there's a strong enough idea for the characters to continue on, then by all means, they should. The original performances will always be there to re-visit too, so it's not like they'll be replaced entirely.

That said though, again, I can definitely see how one would feel so strongly about a performance - I feel much the same way about the characters of Herman Munster and Lt. Columbo. Without Fred Gwynne and Peter Falk, it just doesn't feel kosher to me.

[sintzu]

Once the voice actress of Goku is gone the series does not deserve to continue, it would be disrespectful.

What they shouldn't do is remake her work with someone else but I'll be fine with new content without her.

[Cure Dragon 255]

That Topic is closed. Lets just drop the issue altogether.

[The Patrolman]

This franchise fatigue is like superhero fatigue as in IT DOESN'T EXIST

[DBZAOTA482]

Again, someone saying this series is objectively bad when that's impossible to say.

I'll say this again, once Masako Nozawa passes away (she's 80 now) the Dragonball franchise should end, but not before.

Once the voice actress of Goku is gone the series does not deserve to continue, it would be disrespectful. Sure the videogames/merch can continue, but new anime stuff should end. Anyone wanting to see a new VA perform as Goku after Nozawa makes me sick to my stomach.

She isn't Goku to me, so frankly I don't care if we get a new voice actor. I doubt she would want dragonball to stop too.

Also you're fucking scary, precita.

[kinisking]

Again, someone saying this series is objectively bad when that's impossible to say.

I'll say this again, once Masako Nozawa passes away (she's 80 now) the Dragonball franchise should end, but not before.

Once the voice actress of Goku is gone the series does not deserve to continue, it would be disrespectful. Sure the videogames/merch can continue, but new anime stuff should end. Anyone wanting to see a new VA perform as Goku after Nozawa makes me sick to my stomach.

She isn't Goku to me, so frankly I don't care if we get a new voice actor. I doubt she would want dragonball to stop too.

Also you're fucking scary, precita.

Yes, it should be obvious. Doesn't stop people from saying it and actually believing it.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Nope, not at all. Still loving the franchise.

[Fishman]

I'll say this again, once Masako Nozawa passes away (she's 80 now) the Dragonball franchise should end, but not before.

Once the voice actress of Goku is gone the series does not deserve to continue, it would be disrespectful. Sure the videogames/merch can continue, but new anime stuff should end. Anyone wanting to see a new VA perform as Goku after Nozawa makes me sick to my stomach.

It's a little disconcerting that you think a series should go on until its headlining voice actress works herself to death, especially since it sort of implies that every other voice of the franchise is otherwise expendable.

I had franchise fatigue the moment it became clear Battle of Gods (which made me roll my eyes at times, but was otherwise not bad) wasn't just a standalone product. Dragon Ball has been over for two decades and nothing they've put out since has inspired confidence. Whatever lightning in a bottle Akira Toriyama had during the manga's original run is long gone, and the quality of the stories and most character interactions we've gotten out of Super have been below that of even mediocre fanfiction.

I'd have a lot more respect for him and the franchise if they had simply let it remain un-tampered with. But in the end, it doesn't matter if your Super Saiyans are gold, blue, or pink "rosé". The only thing that matters to Toei is $uper $aiyan Green. They'll run this cash cow into the ground, but gauging by how people seem to enjoy Super in spite of the original series, it'll take more than rock bottom to truly kill the brand.

[sintzu]

I had franchise fatigue the moment it became clear Battle of Gods wasn't just a standalone product.

Whatever lightning in a bottle Akira Toriyama had during the manga's original run is long gone.

I'd have a lot more respect for him and the franchise if they had simply let it remain un-tampered with.

The only thing that matters to Toei is $uper $aiyan Green.

They'll run this cash cow into the ground.

That's how it was made though so you can view it as Goku's final mini adventure before the manga's ending and it even works as an ending to Goku's adventures cause it goes back to what Roshi told him and Krillin, there's always someone stronger out and Beerus proved that time and again during the movie.

This applies to the Shonen genre in general, whatever Toriyama did back then will probably never happen again.

I go back and forth on this all the time, on one hand, ending it after the 10th anniversary movie (BOG can stay cause of the reason mentioned above and Goku and Vegeta's development) would've been perfect cause that's where it started and it would've remained as one story but on the other hand, I love this franchise too much so I don't want it dead either.

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I think there's a chance of this happening once Toriyama is finished with Super.