Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by ChiefWamsutta » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:15 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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TheUltimateNinja wrote: It would be the 9 Grade forms I listed earlier in addition to these branching forms: Oozaru, SSGod, SSBlue, SSRose, LSSJ (Or whatever the U6 girl's transformation is called)
I like all of this, and agree with it. ... I guess I'm just thinking that this Super Saiyan with SSGod powers could be argued to be ... like a godly enhancement, as in a different variation of Super Saiyan?
If that does exist Goku never uses it again, though, which leads me to believe that it's not a different form he can use at will.
So you don't think this Post-BoG SS1, SS2, SS3 should be considered anything else? I'm just thinking that they should since they achieved a jump in power unnaturally. I don't know ... I'm probably just rambling ... I hope this makes any sense at all.

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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by ChiefWamsutta » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:55 am

kinisking wrote:
TheMikado wrote:It's simple

Anime: SSG~Base < SSJ1/2/3 < SSB
Manga: Base < SSJ1/2/3 < SSG < SSB


In the manga only SSB is above SSG, in the anime everything is above SSG.

Whether that makes sense and the story consistent or not is another issue. Do not try to mix what is presented with consistent logic. It doesn't work.
Why is base SSG when they specifically say in Super that super Saiyan equals SS god?
It should be:

Anime: Base < SS1 = SSGod < SS2 < SS3 < SSBlue
Manga: Base < SS1 < SS2 < SS3 < SSGod < SSBlue

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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:16 am

ChiefWamsutta wrote:
kinisking wrote:
TheMikado wrote:It's simple

Anime: SSG~Base < SSJ1/2/3 < SSB
Manga: Base < SSJ1/2/3 < SSG < SSB


In the manga only SSB is above SSG, in the anime everything is above SSG.

Whether that makes sense and the story consistent or not is another issue. Do not try to mix what is presented with consistent logic. It doesn't work.
Why is base SSG when they specifically say in Super that super Saiyan equals SS god?
It should be:

Anime: Base < SS1 = SSGod < SS2 < SS3 < SSBlue
Manga: Base < SS1 < SS2 < SS3 < SSGod < SSBlue
That's what happened when Goku fought Beerus. When he fought Freeza, he had the power of Super Saiyan God in his base form and then went Super Saiyan to increase his power further.

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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by kinisking » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:24 am

Hugo Boss wrote:
ChiefWamsutta wrote:
kinisking wrote: Why is base SSG when they specifically say in Super that super Saiyan equals SS god?
It should be:

Anime: Base < SS1 = SSGod < SS2 < SS3 < SSBlue
Manga: Base < SS1 < SS2 < SS3 < SSGod < SSBlue
That's what happened when Goku fought Beerus. When he fought Freeza, he had the power of Super Saiyan God in his base form and then went Super Saiyan to increase his power further.
Where is that stated in Super ?
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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:51 am

Didn't the Freeza fight have someone imply Goku's only reached his SSGod power when he turned Blue in Super's anime?
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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by dbs fanboy » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:03 pm

I don't think that Goku had any in-between transformation, he just transformed into a regular super saiyan while using god ki.
ekrolo2 wrote:Didn't the Freeza fight have someone imply Goku's only reached his SSGod power when he turned Blue in Super's anime?
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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:17 pm

kinisking wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:
ChiefWamsutta wrote: It should be:

Anime: Base < SS1 = SSGod < SS2 < SS3 < SSBlue
Manga: Base < SS1 < SS2 < SS3 < SSGod < SSBlue
That's what happened when Goku fought Beerus. When he fought Freeza, he had the power of Super Saiyan God in his base form and then went Super Saiyan to increase his power further.
Where is that stated in Super ?
When Goku explained to Freeza what Super Saiyan Blue is. He had the power of Super Saiyan God in his normal form and as such when he goes Super Saiyan his hair turn blue instead of blonde.

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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by ChiefWamsutta » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:52 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
kinisking wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote: That's what happened when Goku fought Beerus. When he fought Freeza, he had the power of Super Saiyan God in his base form and then went Super Saiyan to increase his power further.
Where is that stated in Super ?
When Goku explained to Freeza what Super Saiyan Blue is. He had the power of Super Saiyan God in his normal form and as such when he goes Super Saiyan his hair turn blue instead of blonde.
Watch Dragon Ball Super Episode 24 from 20:02 until 20:45. The Z-Fighters come to the conclusion that this new blue-haired form Goku is using is not Super Saiyan God, but a form beyond that. At this point, they had not seen Goku use SS1, SS2, or SS3, so they would not have known that Goku has other forms that are equal to and beyond the power of SSGod. If his Base form was beyond SSGod, they would know because they can sense his Base form.

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Re: Did Goku have a form between God and Blue?

Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:21 pm

ChiefWamsutta wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:
kinisking wrote: Where is that stated in Super ?
When Goku explained to Freeza what Super Saiyan Blue is. He had the power of Super Saiyan God in his normal form and as such when he goes Super Saiyan his hair turn blue instead of blonde.
Watch Dragon Ball Super Episode 24 from 20:02 until 20:45. The Z-Fighters come to the conclusion that this new blue-haired form Goku is using is not Super Saiyan God, but a form beyond that. At this point, they had not seen Goku use SS1, SS2, or SS3, so they would not have known that Goku has other forms that are equal to and beyond the power of SSGod. If his Base form was beyond SSGod, they would know because they can sense his Base form.
Actually, it doesn't look like they understand fully what Goku did. They just assumed that since they can't sense Goku's ki at all, he must have become something of Super Saiyan God's order of being, but since Super Saiyan God has red hair and this form has blue hair it seems he has changed to a form even stronger than Super Saiyan God. They don't have any means to grasp how strong Super Saiyan God is.

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