Is Current SsjB Goku Stronger Than SsjB Vegito Goku Black Arc?

[Bullza]

No. Even Ultra Instinct Goku from Episode 110 was weaker than Super Saiyan 2 Kefla who would be nowhere near as strong as Super Saiyan Blue Vegito.

Probably at best, the current Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Vegito but just regular Super Saiyan Blue Goku? No chance.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Can I just make a suggestion? When you make threads, maybe try to make them a little shorter? Not many people are willing to read 10 page essays about Dragonball.

[TheSaiyanGod]

SSB Goku isn't any stronger than he was at the start of the tournament. Vegito would crush SSB Goku like a bug.

Don't even know what the obsession with "trading blows" is about. Jiren's simple punch shocked Goku so much he reverted back to Base involuntarily.

You're implying that Goku and Jiren were comparable due to "trading blows" but they weren't, so having comparable power isn't a requirement for trading blows with anyone.

SSB Goku "traded blows" with Jiren in his first fight yet got crushed effortlessly. He then used Kaioken and got instantly smashed into the ground without ever "trading blows". And Jiren was able to deflect the Spirit Bomb with one hand while he had to "trade blows" with SSB Goku in order to push him back. So SSB Goku was "trading blows" with someone dozens of times stronger than him.

Yet according to you does the chain go Jiren=SSB Goku>Spirit Bomb>SSB Kaiokenx20>SSB Goku?
Yeah no, that's nonsense and that's what you get when you try to overanalyze everything for no reason. The feats being brought up aren't even described in proper context so it's not a story issue, that's more so a comprehension issue.

There's nothing in the story whatsoever pointing to the conclusion that Goku trading blows with a powered up Jiren was at was something that he wasn't capable of prior and nobody in the story treats Goku as if he's "powered up".

Yes, trading blows with the enemy can mean evolution.

In EP 109, Goku SSB could trade punches with Jiren, but quickly was at a disadvantage.

Jiren of EP 123 is even stronger than Jiren of EP 109 (using more power than he used against UI Goku), and even then, Goku SSB managed to trading blows more solidly and only came back to base form after Jiren demonstrated a hint of his true power (something he had never done in the tournament)

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

So SSB Goku became over 20x stronger during his first fight against Jiren in seconds since he traded blows with Jiren while Kaioken Goku got instantly smashed into the ground.

Might as well stay consistent. The story does nothing to suggest that Goku is stronger than before in either case, yet you claim otherwise. Nobody in the story remarked on the "even fight" that Goku and Jiren had.

The only reason you wouldn't claim that SSB Goku during his first fight with Jiren is stronger than Kaiokenx20 Goku is because it's from the same fight.
Though if SSB Goku trading blows with Jiren in his first fight doesn't prove that he got dozens of times stronger, I'm not sure how it proves anything when it happens again and the same narrative that Goku is nothing to Jiren continues to be pushed.

[Aman]

Stopped trying to make sense of power levels in the series long ago.

The writers do whatever the plot demands.

[Saturnine]

Well I find it really hard to believe that current Goku is more than "tens of times" stronger in the same form than he was in the Zamasu arc.