Stronger or weaker after absorbing South Kaioushin?

[Magneto]

Opinion has nothing to do with this . I`m not being a jerk , I`m actually bothering to show you wrong translations in the Viz manga and yet you come with "I`ll just go with the Viz one coz it makes more sense to me" . You`re opposing my points with what ?

What exactly makes you the authority on translations again?

I could just type what the scans say and then you can use no matter how many translators you want , it would say the same thing I said.

[Acid_Reign]

I could just type what the scans say and then you can use no matter how many translators you want , it would say the same thing I said.

Not verbatim. Why do you think there are so many different variations out there? Steven and Julian have their own interpretations; so does Viz. You can't discredit Viz simply by taking "your way" as the right way and "their way" as the wrong way. As I understand it, they aren't too ridiculously far off from the original meaning. You're blowing up a simple wording difference to mean more than it does.

[Magneto]

What exactly makes you the authority on translations again?

I could just type what the scans say and then you can use no matter how many translators you want , it would say the same thing I said.

Not verbatim. Why do you think there are so many different variations? Steven and Julian have their own interpretations; so does Viz. You can't discredit Viz simply by taking "your way" as the right way and "their way" as the wrong way. As I understand it, they aren't too ridiculously far off from the original meaning. You're blowing up a simple wording difference to mean more than it does.

Its not about interpreting here . Viz changed the translations completly on a few lines . And some of them are very important lines to the story , as the one regarding Buu`s power decreasing with absorption .

[Acid_Reign]

To be perfectly honest, I've been taking all of your points with a grain of salt because A.) your presentation is sloppy and B.) You're arrogant. Even if you're the best damn Japanese translator in the world, when a guy who uses Grave Accents instead of Apostrophes tells me that Kid Boo is stronger than anyone because Kaios don't do anything and he can keep his power level a secret, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong—I tend not to care.

Stop picking on Duo, and conduct your points in a civil manner. It's not too much to ask.

[gohanku]

I think that the Kaioshins' energy is either A. the ship not able to covert the Kaioshins energy (like Duo said) or B. Holy energy CANNOT be use to revive Buu. So Buu can absorb them and use their power so? He is a pink blob of magic! He could just convert the energy to a usable form for him (e.g. Buff Buu and Majin Buu). But Babidi is not his father; he might not be able to create a ship to handle the type of energy emitted by the Kaioshins. And I think what Vegeta meant by saying ""he is stronger than I thought" is underestimating Kid Buu. I mean Vegeta has a pretty big ego you know, he could just underestimate Buu and get his ass kicked, simple as that. It you manga purists that make me sick...

[Magneto]

To be perfectly honest, I've been taking all of your points with a grain of salt because A.) your presentation is sloppy and B.) You're arrogant. Even if you're the best damn Japanese translator in the world, when a guy who uses Grave Accents instead of Apostrophes tells me that Kid Boo is stronger than anyone because Kaios don't do anything and he can keep his power level a secret, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong—I tend not to care.

Stop picking on Duo, and conduct your points in a civil manner. It's not too much to ask.

And this post contribues to the discussion how ? It`s obvious that you didn`t even understand what I said . I never said Kid Boo is stronger than anyone , since Goku in his SSj3 form at full power , Super Buu with Gotenks absorbed , Super Buu with Gohan absorbed and of course Vegeto are stronger than him .
I`m not picking on Duo and I do conduct my points in a civil manner , but when replies like "I trust it because it makes more sense to me" come into play , eventough the translation is wrong , I really get tired of replying .

I think that the Kaioshins' energy is either A. the ship not able to covert the Kaioshins energy (like Duo said) or B. Holy energy CANNOT be use to revive Buu. So Buu can absorb them and use their power so? He is a pink blob of magic! He could just convert the energy to a usable form for him (e.g. Buff Buu and Majin Buu). But Babidi is not his father; he might not be able to create a ship to handle the type of energy emitted by the Kaioshins. And I think what Vegeta meant by saying ""he is stronger than I thought" is underestimating Kid Buu. I mean Vegeta has a pretty big ego you know, he could just underestimate Buu and get his ass kicked, simple as that.

A What ship are you talking about ?
B If it can`t be used to revive Buu it can`t be used on Buu at all since the energy went to him . So Kaioshin energy can`t powerup Buu .

Majin Buu is weaker than Kid Buu , and it is debatable if Buff Buu is equal or weaker than him , so the energy from them isn`t exactly "usefull" .

And the explination about Vegeta doesn`t make sense . Try to rephrase because I`m not gonna waste time making sense of it .

[Acid_Reign]

And this post contribues to the discussion how ? It`s obvious that you didn`t even understand what I said . I never said Kid Boo is stronger than anyone , since Goku in his SSj3 form at full power , Super Buu with Gotenks absorbed , Super Buu with Gohan absorbed and of course Vegeto are stronger than him .
I`m not picking on Duo and I do conduct my points in a civil manner , but when replies like "I trust it because it makes more sense to me" come into play , eventough the translation is wrong , I really get tired of replying .

Discussion? Is that what we're having? Because it looks to me like you're trying really hard just to argue. Read what you yourself have written. It isn't civil at all. You didn't start out nice, then get gradually annoyed, (which would have been understandable) but rather you've posted like you've had a stick up your ass the entire time.

You're right, I don't understand what you're saying. Nobody here understands what you're saying because you obviously don't speak English very well. Duo was just suggesting an alternate point of view; not once did he jump down your throat about you being completely wrong, or anything remotely like that. He simply thought that the Viz translation was accurate enough to convey the message of the story, even if it wasn't word-for-word from the Japanese version, which you seem to be outrageously Puritanical about.

I'd be willing to actually listen to your points if you would kindly just settle down and remember that you're talking about a comic book here...it's not the end of the world.

But if you really get tired of replying to us, you could always do yourself a favor and stop posting.

[Magneto]

And this post contribues to the discussion how ? It`s obvious that you didn`t even understand what I said . I never said Kid Boo is stronger than anyone , since Goku in his SSj3 form at full power , Super Buu with Gotenks absorbed , Super Buu with Gohan absorbed and of course Vegeto are stronger than him .
I`m not picking on Duo and I do conduct my points in a civil manner , but when replies like "I trust it because it makes more sense to me" come into play , eventough the translation is wrong , I really get tired of replying .

Discussion? Is that what we're having? Because it looks to me like you're trying really hard just to argue. Read what you yourself have written. It isn't civil at all. You didn't start out nice, then get gradually annoyed, (which would have been understandable) but rather you've posted like you've had a stick up your ass the entire time.

You're right, I don't understand what you're saying. Nobody here understands what you're saying because you obviously don't speak English very well. Duo was just suggesting an alternate point of view; not once did he jump down your throat about you being completely wrong, or anything remotely like that. He simply thought that the Viz translation was accurate enough to convey the message of the story, even if it wasn't word-for-word from the Japanese version, which you seem to be outrageously Puritanical about.

I'd be willing to actually listen to your points if you would kindly just settle down and remember that you're talking about a comic book here...it's not the end of the world.

But if you really get tired of replying to us, you could always do yourself a favor and stop posting.

Not really . Who says I`m trying to argue ? I`m just pointing out the facts , and some of you just don`t get it . And I speak English quite well , but I`ve posted literall translations of the Japanese manga so that nobody says I`m twisting their meaning or something . And I don`t really care about what he thinks , I care about what`s right . A few changed words change the entire story and the power of the characters . And what end of the world are you talking about ? This is just a normal discussion .

[Mr.Piccolo]

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I think Super Buu is a pretty cool villian.
-Rick

[Magneto]

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I think Super Buu is a pretty cool villian.
-Rick

And what does this have to do with what this topic is about ?

[Mr.Piccolo]

And what does this have to do with what this topic is about?

Nothing really. I happen to find it more appealing than say, pointless flaming, alternative uses of an apostrophe, and bad grammar, that’s all.
-Rick

[Acid_Reign]

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I think Super Buu is a pretty cool villian.
-Rick

And what does this have to do with what this topic is about ?

That's what I'm talking about. You're so quick to jump at people.

But whatever; you've alienated yourself. While I do agree that a few words can change a lot story-wise, I was just trying to illustrate Duo's point of view. How ever "right" you may be about this whole thing though doesn't matter, because I can safely say no one wants to talk to you about it anymore.

[Magneto]

Nothing really. I happen to find it more appealing than say, pointless flaming, alternative uses of an apostrophe, and bad grammar, that’s all.Smile

So trolling makes you feel special ?

That's what I'm talking about. You're so quick to jump at people.

But whatever; you've alienated yourself. While I do agree that a few words can change a lot story-wise, I was just trying to illustrate Duo's point of view. However "right" you may be about this whole thing though, doesn't matter, because I can safely say no one wants to talk to you about it anymore.

Jump at people ? It was a question , and a logical one since it really had nothing to do with the topic .
And its logical that nobody wants to talk about it anymore since I already showed the correct answer . So this topic is pretty much done

[Acid_Reign]

HAY YA THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC GUY`S SO UH YOU`RE FUCKIN WRONG ABT THAT BCUZ I TRANSLATED IT STR8 FROM KOMIKS ONE AND A TIME OK DID I MONTION I`M AN ENGLISCHE MAJ0R WANNA KNOW WHY BECAUSE UR RETARDE`D WELL THIS TOPIC IS PRETTY MUCH DONE ALSO VEGETA NEVER SAW BUU IN HIS UNDERWEAR NEVER VIZ HAD IT WRONG THOSE COMMIE BASTRD`S SO OK YA LOCK AND STICKY

[Mr.Piccolo]

Nothing really. I happen to find it more appealing than say, pointless flaming, alternative uses of an apostrophe, and bad grammar, that’s all.Smile

So trolling makes you feel special ?

Heh, point taken but most of your posts in this thread aren’t exactly out of good merit. They have a arrondirebear-feel to them..
-Rick

[Rocketman]

Vegeta underestimating Buu is a character trait. He did the same thing when he fought Freeza, #18, Perfect Cell, Fat Buu...

Vegeta's not very trustworthy on these matters.

You`re talking about Goku`s statement inside Super Buu ? Goku didn`t know he would retain his original size once exiting Super Buu`s body, so he was actually reffering to the fact that at that size , they would lose "Wait ! Eventough he`s back to normal he`s still too strong ! If we go outside like this we`ll get beaten !!" . The "like this part shows he was reffering to his size

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Or, he could be refering to them not being fused, since he then says it's Vegeta's fault for crushing the Potara.

Then there`s also the fact that Goku said that they will defeat him once Super Buu entered his body "So we have to find an exit after defeating you .. ? , so when him and Super Buu are actually at the same size , eventough fighting inside Super Buu`s own body , Goku thinks he can beat him .

Or, that he's recapping, thinking "Aw, fuck, we have to beat him before we can get out?"

And once exiting Super Buu`s body , Goku states "Yes !! Everybody`s back to original !!" . Why would he be surprised about the fact that he regained his size if he expected it ? This also shows he was reffering to their size

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No, that shows he's glad they did turn back to normal.

[Duo]

I'm only sorry that I chose to get into it with this guy. He doesn't even see what he's doing here, and there's no convincing someone like that. It's just like when I had a stick up my rear about how much more awesome the Manga "was" than the Anime. I didn't listen to reason because I thought I was better than everyone else.

And there's hardly any convincing someone like that, so whatever. I'll just be done here. Thanks for carrying on for me and sticking up for me Acid Reign, I really appreciate it.

[Kaboom]

Can't we all just get along?

[Acid_Reign]

I'm only sorry that I chose to get into it with this guy. He doesn't even see what he's doing here, and there's no convincing someone like that. It's just like when I had a stick up my rear about how much more awesome the Manga "was" than the Anime. I didn't listen to reason because I thought I was better than everyone else.

And there's hardly any convincing someone like that, so whatever. I'll just be done here. Thanks for carrying on for me and sticking up for me Acid Reign, I really appreciate it.

No problem, dude. I wasn't just going to stand by while someone with actual reason got picked on for nothing.

[zoiozazu]

1. They were worried at Buff Buu, laughing at kid Buu.

I believe Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu but I always believed that they were underestimating Kid Buu at that point.

Fat Boo was stranger than Kid Boo...But Kid Boo was more inconsequent. One attack and the Earth was just history...