Losing the Satanic Touch

John · Post by **John** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:37 pm

PsyLiam wrote:Would it be Huma-jin, or Earthling-jin?

It's sorta like "Earth-jin." In Japanese, it would be "chikyuu-jin" (hopefully I spelled that right.)

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:51 pm

So is that the Japanese for "Human", or "From Earth"?

Hmm. What about "Terra-jin"?

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:54 pm

Mizugi wrote:They left "Majin" alone though. Many jokes were made by my friends before Buu showed up about how he would be called "Mayan Buu."

But...why? "Saiyan" and "Majin" aren't spelt anything like each other.

SpaceKappa · Post by **SpaceKappa** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:02 pm

Because "jin" was removed to make Saiyan, we just joked they'd take the "jin" out of Majin and make it Mayan. Lame joke, but we're easily entertained, I suppose.

John · Post by **John** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:22 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "Majin" is a word on its own, instead of "Ma-jin." Also, I think "ningen" is Japanese for human and "hito" means person/people. "Chikyuu-jin" would be like saying Earthling in English.

SpaceKappa · Post by **SpaceKappa** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:28 pm

Doesn't "ma" mean demon? As in, "Ma Junior?"

John · Post by **John** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:39 pm

Yeah, it does. But somewhere I heard "majin" meant magic or sorcery. I could be wrong.

Either way, we're getting a little off-topic I think. So, uh, boo censorship!

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:48 pm

I would think maybe the change of Satan to H e r cule would be more of an adaption change, than purely a censorship one

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:55 pm

Izlude wrote:I would think maybe the change of Satan to H e r cule would be more of an adaption change, than purely a censorship one

What are you basing that on, since the two names have absolutely nothing in common?

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:23 pm

What are you basing that on, since the two names have absolutely nothing in common?

I think he means because the TV version in America did the same thing, like how they changed stuff in a couple of the other Mangas.

But still... they didn't have a problem with Kuririn and Tenshinhan and any number of other things...

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:37 pm

I think it may just be that its because the majority of U.S fans are more used to him being called H e r c u l e than Satan, most people watch only the dub, its a proven fact, much to the dissmay of most of us here. I dont know about the original spellings of Kuririn and Tenshinhan and all them though, its rather odd... I have no idea...

But for the whole Satan thing, we've known the man as H e r c u l e for nearly several years, and before that, "Mr.Savage" lol... but didnt DBZ in German call Satan "H e r c u l e" as well? I keep hearing that, but I've never seen it for myself.

All I can say is... people are weird (referring to adaption writers)

The S · Post by **The S** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:33 am

You also got to remember, Shonen Jump, unlike Raijin Comics, Animerica, or any other magazine out there that covers anime/manga is displayed at stores like Wal-Mart,K-Mart,Big name Grocery stores, and even Toy's R Us.

All of those you mention above are available at any Fred Meyer, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Gamestop, and Target. At least around here.

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:02 am

I've never seen a Raijin Comics or even an Animerca in those stores though O_O

Unless the ones in my area's suck hardcore

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:45 am

John wrote:Yeah, it does. But somewhere I heard "majin" meant magic or sorcery. I could be wrong.

Actually, you've been right on all accounts thus far.

"Ma" can mean either "demon" or "magic." So it actually works either way (though it's suggested that since Bibidi and Babidi were sorcerers, he's closer to a magical being than an outright demon).

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:50 am

I knew it! I knew Ma could be translated as "Magic" and people said Viz translated Haku's Ice Mirror Jutsu incorrectly.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:37 pm

Izlude wrote:I've never seen a Raijin Comics or even an Animerca in those stores though O_O

Unless the ones in my area's suck hardcore

Yeah, I used to work in a Target store, and the only anime they had were edited DBZ and Pokemon. If they have changed since then, I don't know.

Magica · Post by **Magica** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:39 pm

What soccer mom complained now? I mean, there's a reason why there's a Teen rating on the cover.

What next, Roshi drinking yet more 'Frothy mugs of water?'

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:50 pm

I seriously hate parents in america, I could understanding "babying" a 13 year old cuz they are still brats, but I see parents still doing it to 16-18 year olds! Its friggin insane!

I tell ya, if only more families were like...uhh... The Osbournes...rofl...

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:58 pm

How did Viz handle all the nudity in DB? And Paf Paf?!

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:04 pm

It's all there, fully intact far as I know. My friend SSJ4Kain has nearly all of the DB (and half of the Z) GN's and he's told me himself they are completely uncut and everything is there.