RUMOR: First review of DRAGONBALL movie (6.5/10)

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:23 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Snail wrote:I'm actually expecting more of something along the lines of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yriMpVafXDY
I would certainly hope so; that was ten different levels of gnarly.

I do think they need to leave some headroom as far as how "extreme" or "high-scale" the battles are. Otherwise the sequels could end up suffering from "GT syndrome" and look a lot less impressive than supposedly "weaker" fights from the previous series are. I say let's leave the Smith vs Neo-esque stuff for Goku vs Vegeta or something. For the first movie, keep it more Kung Fu than "Superman."

Well, I'm pretty sure that Matrix Revolutions "Neo vs. Smith" type of fighting can out-do that in terms of upping the pwoer scale and such in a way that's true to the series.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:27 pm

Rocketman wrote:After Trunks, Dabura, Janemba, Tapion, Gohan, Mercenary Tao, that one guy from movie 8 and probably some other characters I don't know of were shown wielding blades, I have to wonder why people seem insistent on twisting their own scrotums about Movie Piccolo having one.

Trunks: We've seen what happened with that damn sword after he tested it out against the present timeline's Artificial Humans.

Dabra: From what I remember, he didn't use it until later on and even that didn't do him any good. If memory serves me right, he also had a spear.

Janemba: His sword wasn't exactly the typical sword we've seen before. As in, it wasn't any ordinary sword as it shot shards all over the damn place.

Tapion: He wasn't really a fighter per se and the sword was supposed to help banish Hirudegarn. Supposedly a gift from the gods, if I remember correctly. Not an ordinary sword.

Gohan: Given to him by Piccolo since the kids was only FOUR YEARS OLD and was going through survival training on his own before Piccolo gave him any training.

Tao Pai Pai: A regular human with abnormal strength who happened to be a hitman. So he also had access to all sorts of weapons, including knives and explosives. Not unusual nor strange...unless you count him using his tongue as a weapon.

Gokua: A movie villain who didn't last very long and had his shit broken in one punch. Yawn.

You forgot Yajirobe, but he basically falls into the field of using that as his means to protect himself, like Gohan.

The main difference? Piccolo never had a sword, unlike the others. Not to mention, for someone who was highly confident in his own abilities, it seems highly out of character for someone like himself to be using weapons.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:30 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Snail wrote:I'm actually expecting more of something along the lines of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yriMpVafXDY
I would certainly hope so; that was ten different levels of gnarly.

I do think they need to leave some headroom as far as how "extreme" or "high-scale" the battles are. Otherwise the sequels could end up suffering from "GT syndrome" and look a lot less impressive than supposedly "weaker" fights from the previous series are. I say let's leave the Smith vs Neo-esque stuff for Goku vs Vegeta or something. For the first movie, keep it more Kung Fu than "Superman."

My thoughts exactly. I may be in the favour of not being as optimistic of the film as I could be, but I do have high hopes for the action scenes. As long as the choreography is impressive, there isn't any need for ki blasts flying out the wazoo all around. I wouldn't even be disappointed if there were no flying scenes incorporated at all either. Wong had better not pull the usual hollywood film director move and focus in way too close into a fight. It works in effect to some level of intensity, but not to the degree of 'wow'ing the audience leaving out the most of the movement placed upon the choreographed seqence. However, I guess we shouldn't be expecting much of that judging from 'The One'.

Tatsunoboshi Horoko · Post by **Tatsunoboshi Horoko** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:52 pm

Tsukento wrote:The main difference? Piccolo never had a sword, unlike the others. Not to mention, for someone who was highly confident in his own abilities, it seems highly out of character for someone like himself to be using weapons.

Sort of reminds me of the Fist of the North Star movie where, instead of busting out some Nanto Seiken (or "Southern Cross Style," as they called it,) Shin caps Ryuken one right between the eyes.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:49 pm

If you guys stress over the tiny little changes you will die of a heart attack.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:14 pm

JAPPO wrote:If you guys stress over the tiny little changes you will die of a heart attack.

Son's backstory is hardly a little change.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:19 pm

I think he's talking about the sword, which isn't even confirmed yet...is it?

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:54 pm

To those who doubt the power of color correction.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:55 pm

Not only that, but it’s a completely different shot, too…

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:58 pm

They probably shot the same scenes a million times and are still trying to decide which the best take is.

Post by **Herms** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:18 pm

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Yamcha as another sword-wielding character. There's also Murasaki and the pirate robot. And don't forget that Yajirobe used his sword to cut off Oozaru Vegeta's tail, and Oozaru Vegeta would have been like a zillion times stronger than him. So it's not like they're always ineffective.

ultimateemail5000 · Post by **ultimateemail5000** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:30 pm

Herms wrote:I'm surprised nobody mentioned Yamcha as another sword-wielding character. There's also Murasaki and the pirate robot. And don't forget that Yajirobe used his sword to cut off Oozaru Vegeta's tail, and Oozaru Vegeta would have been like a zillion times stronger than him. So it's not like they're always ineffective.

Didn't Yamucha have a sword when he first appeared in the original Dragon Ball?

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:01 pm

Kendamu wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:
Snail wrote:I'm actually expecting more of something along the lines of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yriMpVafXDY
I would certainly hope so; that was ten different levels of gnarly.

I do think they need to leave some headroom as far as how "extreme" or "high-scale" the battles are. Otherwise the sequels could end up suffering from "GT syndrome" and look a lot less impressive than supposedly "weaker" fights from the previous series are. I say let's leave the Smith vs Neo-esque stuff for Goku vs Vegeta or something. For the first movie, keep it more Kung Fu than "Superman."
Well, I'm pretty sure that Matrix Revolutions "Neo vs. Smith" type of fighting can out-do that in terms of upping the pwoer scale and such in a way that's true to the series.

I have to say, IMO, this video would be absolutely perfect for the Freeza vs Goku fight. All you would have to do is change the costumes and add a few energy attacks. I think that everything else (the music, the lighting, the timing, the choreography, the moves) is perfect for that fight; but again, that's just my opinion.

Saibaman fight?

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ultimateemail5000 wrote:
Herms wrote:I'm surprised nobody mentioned Yamcha as another sword-wielding character. There's also Murasaki and the pirate robot. And don't forget that Yajirobe used his sword to cut off Oozaru Vegeta's tail, and Oozaru Vegeta would have been like a zillion times stronger than him. So it's not like they're always ineffective.
Didn't Yamucha have a sword when he first appeared in the original Dragon Ball?

Yes, that is the only point in the series where he has a sword.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:27 pm

Tsukento wrote:<snip long list of swords being useless>

Well it's not like Piccolo's gonna win anyway. Why not let him lose in style?

SSj_Rambo wrote:Saibaman fight?

As far as the movie's concerned, I'm picturing a powered-up Goku single-handedly fighting off a horde of Fulum.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:41 pm

JAPPO wrote:They probably shot the same scenes a million times and are still trying to decide which the best take is.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they went with the second shot. It’s more recent; the “teaser” footage was only what they were using at the time because the composition didn’t really matter; and if I’m not mistaken the major differences are not due merely to color correction, but rather the use of a different gi altogether.

Now, I don’t take the colors to be particularly reliable, because it’s a screenshot of a YouTube-compressed version of a possibly compressed recording of a definitely compressed broadcast version of a digital file rendered from film. The teaser is slightly more reliable in that it came directly from the VOB files, though I doubt they had applied all the gamma curves, etc. at that point. But even if they had, there probably is some form of color alteration going on in this new clip since, as far as we can tell, the coat Goku is wearing is the same one as before, yet it’s lighter in the newer screenshot. We just can’t be sure where down the line that alteration occurred.

Even still, if we are to take this new image as an accurate depiction of the film’s colors, you will note the gold fabric on the inside instead of the plain orange. The lining on the sleeves is also a little thinner. The quality of the material looks better, too, like it’s silk instead of cotton. It could just have been that the previous gi was a rehearsal prop, or Wong wasn’t happy with the aesthetics.

Either way: they’re subtle changes, but I like them.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:59 pm

Yi Xing Long · Post by **Yi Xing Long** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:43 am

JAPPO wrote:*snip*

What the hell? Why does the actor playing Goku look so damn serious!? Goku is supposed to be an ignorant happy-go-lucky country bumpkin! Chatwin does NOT portray Goku in any way, shape, or form!

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:02 am

JAPPO wrote:If you guys stress over the tiny little changes you will die of a heart attack.

Yeah guys. It's not much.

It's just a little alteration of the arsenal.

So, we change the characters a little, adjust their appearance and personalities and motivations just a smidge, and then alter the setting a bit, and make everything look just a little bit darker, and then we'll just tweak the tone of the overall story...

Add this, take that away, and alter some of that and.. AGH! My heart...!

jaywonder · Post by **jaywonder** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:09 am

After seeing the trailer, my friend said it was like his eyeballs being pulled out of his ass

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:11 am

jaywonder wrote:After seeing the trailer, my friend said it was like his eyeballs being pulled out of his ass

Wait is that possible?