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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

Post by simtek34 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:51 pm

Since Toonami is airing Super, I think that Super will air on U.K. TV using FUNi's backup censored dub. Or will Super even air there at all?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:43 pm

simtek34 wrote:Since Toonami is airing Super, I think that Super will air on U.K. TV using FUNi's backup censored dub. Or will Super even air there at all?
No, it won't. Jerome Mazandarani, head of MangaUK, confirmed back in October during a brand licensing event that Super got turned down by every major TV channel in the UK because it was seen as "too violent" and "not the kind of show they were looking for". Which is total horseshit, but, there you go.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:49 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
simtek34 wrote:Since Toonami is airing Super, I think that Super will air on U.K. TV using FUNi's backup censored dub. Or will Super even air there at all?
No, it won't. Jerome Mazandarani, head of MangaUK, confirmed back in October during a brand licensing event that Super got turned down by every major TV channel in the UK because it was seen as "too violent" and "not the kind of show they were looking for". Which is total horseshit, but, there you go.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:08 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
simtek34 wrote:Since Toonami is airing Super, I think that Super will air on U.K. TV using FUNi's backup censored dub. Or will Super even air there at all?
No, it won't. Jerome Mazandarani, head of MangaUK, confirmed back in October during a brand licensing event that Super got turned down by every major TV channel in the UK because it was seen as "too violent" and "not the kind of show they were looking for". Which is total horseshit, but, there you go.
I have so many emotions right now, with "wtf is this shit" being the strongest :x
I have no idea why Turner are refusing it for the UK. There are laws here, that state all children's networks have to air programming that is suitable for kids of whatever age, regardless of time of day.
That being said, the cut version currently airing in Israel and Portugal would be fine.
Boing, (Spain's version of Cartoon Network) who air exactly the same content as Cartoon Network UK (for the most part at least) are airing Super.
The exact same people responsible for Spain are also responsible for UK, so they feel that it isn't appropriate for UK.
A very sad situation, and it isn't likely to change anytime soon, unless Toei Europe allow the show to go on a later time slot on an entertainment channel.

If we do see it (and I highly doubt it) it may not be until the Summer, so they can air a handful of episodes weekdays after school. They would have to be behind Toonami USA, as I'm sure they will likely air repeats during the week, with new episodes airing weekends or something.

When Kai aired on Kix a year or two back, the figures were good, especially during its original run, and it reached number one with 39'000 viewers for the week ending 25/8/13.
And at that time, Kix was heavily reliant on Power Rangers (which now mostly airs on Pop).
Sky Cinema aired both movies recently, and they seem to have done well. Shame.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

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Ki Breaker wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
simtek34 wrote:Since Toonami is airing Super, I think that Super will air on U.K. TV using FUNi's backup censored dub. Or will Super even air there at all?
No, it won't. Jerome Mazandarani, head of MangaUK, confirmed back in October during a brand licensing event that Super got turned down by every major TV channel in the UK because it was seen as "too violent" and "not the kind of show they were looking for". Which is total horseshit, but, there you go.
I have so many emotions right now, with "wtf is this shit" being the strongest :x
CN UK refused to premiere their new Justice League Action show from WB animation at a reasonable time... They aired it 7am on a Saturday... /; Terrific slot for a premiere right? Rejecting Super is honestly not a surprise to me in light of that.

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Post by jelleline89 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:07 am

Shocking to see such a renowned franchise unable to get into the UK market. There's no question that it would have success if marketed correctly, but passing on it entirely is just sad. Hopefully minds change in 2017 and a way can be found to bring it over.

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:16 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: No, it won't. Jerome Mazandarani, head of MangaUK, confirmed back in October during a brand licensing event that Super got turned down by every major TV channel in the UK because it was seen as "too violent" and "not the kind of show they were looking for". Which is total horseshit, but, there you go.
I have so many emotions right now, with "wtf is this shit" being the strongest :x
CN UK refused to premiere their new Justice League Action show from WB animation at a reasonable time... They aired it 7am on a Saturday... /; Terrific slot for a premiere right? Rejecting Super is honestly not a surprise to me in light of that.
That is just madness. 7am for a brand new show.... these are sad times for UK kids networks.
I just checked the US listings, and Justice League Action airs there at 7:30 on Saturday mornings, though at least they aired the premiere at 6pm.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:18 am

Man, first Canadian TV networks reject the Ocean dub of Kai, and now the UK won't allow Super? Oh TV, how thou hast gone downhill....
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:38 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:Man, first Canadian TV networks reject the Ocean dub of Kai, and now the UK won't allow Super? Oh TV, how thou hast gone downhill....
I may be amusingly inspired to write a Shakespeare-esque play about the struggles of producers and license holders to get Dragon Ball dubs on TV after reading this :clap: .
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Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:53 pm

The only way UK fans will see Super on TV is if Toei Europe forget about getting it exclusively on a kids network.

Follow the US's lead, and go for an entertainment channel, with a later timeslot.
8pm is fine on a weekend, kids can still watch it, provided it is marketed well - toylines and other merchandise aimed at kids are the key really.

It is looking as though UK fans are going to be forced to wait it out for home video, so archaic.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:47 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:The only way UK fans will see Super on TV is if Toei Europe forget about getting it exclusively on a kids network.

Follow the US's lead, and go for an entertainment channel, with a later timeslot.
8pm is fine on a weekend, kids can still watch it, provided it is marketed well - toylines and other merchandise aimed at kids are the key really.

It is looking as though UK fans are going to be forced to wait it out for home video, so archaic.
May seem a little off topic but the website Toonami Faithful did an excellent article on Super getting a prime-time slot on Toonami.

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:19 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:The only way UK fans will see Super on TV is if Toei Europe forget about getting it exclusively on a kids network.

Follow the US's lead, and go for an entertainment channel, with a later timeslot.
8pm is fine on a weekend, kids can still watch it, provided it is marketed well - toylines and other merchandise aimed at kids are the key really.

It is looking as though UK fans are going to be forced to wait it out for home video, so archaic.
May seem a little off topic but the website Toonami Faithful did an excellent article on Super getting a prime-time slot on Toonami.
That was a great article, thank you very much for sharing it.
It is a shame the UK Adult Swim isn't as good, it starts at 23:00, and 00:00.

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Post by simtek34 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:55 pm

New English Dub trailer on toonami.com

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:57 pm

Clifford Chaplin plays Cabba, well for XV2 but I'm pretty sure they'll cast him for Super too. Perfect casting in my opinion!

Greg Ayers is Frost in XV2 too. Hmm not sure about that one. Actually I think it works with Frost's good guy innocent cover up thing he had going on.

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:21 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Greg Ayers is Frost in XV2 too. Hmm not sure about that one. Actually I think it works with Frost's good guy innocent cover up thing he had going on.
Without knowing too much about the character, I can't give an informed opinion, but I do appreciate the real-life aspect of the casting in that they cast the younger brother of Chris Ayres in that role, and that he has a relatively similar voice (albeit higher-pitched).
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:51 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Clifford Chaplin plays Cabba, well for XV2 but I'm pretty sure they'll cast him for Super too. Perfect casting in my opinion!

Greg Ayers is Frost in XV2 too. Hmm not sure about that one. Actually I think it works with Frost's good guy innocent cover up thing he had going on.
Well, its not Greg would not be familiar with a role like this. Remember, he also voices Guldo.
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Post by Draconic » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:57 pm

You know what a cool meta joke would have been?

Having Frost, a shitty Freeza who is loved by people blind to the fact he is actually bad be played by Linda Young.
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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:46 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: No, it won't. Jerome Mazandarani, head of MangaUK, confirmed back in October during a brand licensing event that Super got turned down by every major TV channel in the UK because it was seen as "too violent" and "not the kind of show they were looking for". Which is total horseshit, but, there you go.
I have so many emotions right now, with "wtf is this shit" being the strongest :x
I have no idea why Turner are refusing it for the UK. There are laws here, that state all children's networks have to air programming that is suitable for kids of whatever age, regardless of time of day.
That being said, the cut version currently airing in Israel and Portugal would be fine.
Boing, (Spain's version of Cartoon Network) who air exactly the same content as Cartoon Network UK (for the most part at least) are airing Super.
The exact same people responsible for Spain are also responsible for UK, so they feel that it isn't appropriate for UK.
A very sad situation, and it isn't likely to change anytime soon, unless Toei Europe allow the show to go on a later time slot on an entertainment channel.

If we do see it (and I highly doubt it) it may not be until the Summer, so they can air a handful of episodes weekdays after school. They would have to be behind Toonami USA, as I'm sure they will likely air repeats during the week, with new episodes airing weekends or something.

When Kai aired on Kix a year or two back, the figures were good, especially during its original run, and it reached number one with 39'000 viewers for the week ending 25/8/13.
And at that time, Kix was heavily reliant on Power Rangers (which now mostly airs on Pop).
Sky Cinema aired both movies recently, and they seem to have done well. Shame.
The UK constantly censers violence and romance in cartoons. Apparently, even in this enlightened age were single-sex couples can marry, kids apparently can't handle the concept in cartoons like Steven Universe or Adventure Time.

A show like Super not making the cut is no surprising, despite how toned down it is from Z.

Edit: It would also seem like the UK's trying to go threw a new era of forced censorship and prohibition, which is really funny. We had this kind of bs years ago back in the 80's and it failed hard then and in this day and age its going to fail even harder.

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Post by Boo Machine » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:01 pm

I like Frost's English Voice. For me it makes Frost feel, at least, a little more like his own character instead of just being a slightly different Freeza. Also Iike the idea of him being voiced by Greg. That's pretty funny. But I guess We'll see how it plays out in the actual show.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:24 am

Draconic wrote:You know what a cool meta joke would have been?

Having Frost, a shitty Freeza who is loved by people blind to the fact he is actually bad be played by Linda Young.
That makes so much sense, that'd be phenomenal. He also doesn't speak as eleoquently as Freeza.

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