"Dragon Ball Online" Discussion Thread

[Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece]

Awesome!

Now if only I knew Korean... ;_;

[Kiyza]

Whoops, I'm getting my dates mixed up. I guess that's what happens when you're out of school with the swine flu and pnumonia. I meant to say Thursday.

[DNA]

The news for this game are so bloody slow... T_T

[B]

Have Korean fans been commenting on how the game is? I assume they must be, somewhere...

[Kiyza]

I heard something the other day about there being a release of it in Taiwan. I don't know too much else about that, though.

[Amaranth Sparrow]

Hey, since DBO has recently gone into OB, I've been doing some translations, and I've noticed that there are some stuff that people still don't seem completely informed about, so I figured I'd contribute some of my findings.

First off, unless I'm missing something, the villains are no longer known as the "Dark Eye". I was actually the person who translated the article with that information a long time ago, when the game was first announced (believe it or not). At the time, it stated something along the lines of, "the world has been divided by a villainous organization called the Dark Eye, which is controlled from behind the scenes by a mysterious individual". Whatever the reason, it seems to have been dropped, since it hasn't been used in a long time.

Instead, as it currently stands, the villain is typically only referred to as the "Pale Man", and his forces, which are comprised of the remnants of the Freeza and Red Pants Armies, are usually called the "Pale Man's Army".


Now, I haven't read much about this stuff on any English sites, so I thought I'd share some information. Some is from the game, some from the official site, and some of it's a bit older, from a press conferances:


The Pale Man, Miira

The Pale Man's name is Miira, and the current main goal for players is to uncover and prevent his evil plans. Miira is a humanoid that was created in the Dark Demon Realm (Ankoku Makai), and invaded Earth in Age 2000 to try and conquer it. He recruits the remnants of the Freeza and Red Pants Armies and begins gathering life energy, then travels back in time with a time machine to try and obtain Goku's DNA to become even stronger. Kami-sama (Dende) asks Trunks to prevent this, leading to the formation of the Time Patrol.

You may or may not know that in one of the recent Dragon Ball guidebooks, Akira Toriyama introduced the concept of Makaioshin, corrupted Kaioshin (Supreme Kais) that rule over the Dark Demon Realm (where Dabura is from). It was speculated that he brought this up because he planned to use them in DBO. Though I'm pretty sure Miira isn't a Makaioshin, I feel fairly confident in saying that the female character he's been pictured with probably is, and that she may be the one who created him.


The Human Race and Classes

Of the three races, the humans have the longest established culture on Earth, and they're also the most prolific, having spread to all corners of the world, including the Wastelands. As of Age 1000, the human race has become cross-bred with the Saiyan race, and as such, many believe that the race holds a powerful, hidden potential. In Age 820, the remnants of the Freeza Army invaded Earth; the war and environmental destruction has given the human race an intense drive to protect the planet.

You may have also noticed that humans in the Age 1000 are well aware of advanced fighting techniques. This is all thanks to Son Gohan, who published the book "Groundbreaking Science" around Age 800, presumably introducing concepts such as ki control to the general public and ushering in a worldwide revolution in martial arts (details on this aren't completely clear).

Introducing the New Hermits

After Gohan wrote "Groundbreaking Science", which advocated martial arts and increased expectations to use them, many began to call for a revival of the Turtle and Crane Schools. However, the Turtle and Crane Hermits had retired due to old age, and the task of revival was passed on to Kuririn and Tienshinhan.

Kuririn founded the New Turtle School. Having fought many battles alongside Saiyans and Namekians, he understood that humans simply couldn't compare to aliens and developed techniques that revolved around working together. Even if they're unable to deal a killing blow to kill their opponent, they can still weaken them, and by combining their efforts with others, would be able to contend with far stronger enemies.

Tienshinhan, on the other hand, came to a different conclusion, believing that it was more important to develop aggressive attacks by controlling ki than it was to provide support. Having witnessed the Genki Dama that Son Goku used to defeat Majin Boo, he realized that it was possible for an individual to defeat even the strongest opponent by raising their power to the limits and gathering tremendous amounts of ki. As such, he developed techniques that revolved around strategically collecting ki and unleashing bursts of intense energy with percise timing.

Founding of the groundbreaking Kikoukenjutsu Sword School

In Gohan's "Groundbreaking Science", he wrote that the Katchin metal (that was used to test the Z-Sword) could, in fact, be cut, which caused many to become interested in learning swordplay. When Trunks and Goten learned about this, they got all fired up and decided that they'd start an awesome sword school of their own. This lead to the founding of the groundbreaking Kikoukenjutsu Sword School. Kikoukenjutsu, or "Spiritual Swordsmanship", revolves around elegant swordplay and infusing blades with ki to overpower opponents.


The Namekian Race and Classes

After the namekian's homeworld, Planet Namek, was destroyed, they migrated to New Namek. However, that was attacked by Miira in Age 853, forcing them to move yet again. They settled on Earth, primarily around "Porunga Rocks", a region that was terraformed to resemble Namek. They now work on behalf of Kami-sama Dende to prevent Miira from causing global destruction.
Unlike other races, namekians are genderless and reproduce asexually.

The Namekian Warriors are warrior-type namekians that follow the teachings of the legendary namekian warrior, Piccolo, and they fall into two categories Makai Warriors and Madou Warriors. Makai Warriors follow Piccolo's teachings, while the Madou Warriors are those who have reinterpreted Piccolo's teachings to develop a new style.

Namekian Dragon Clansmen are the rare namekians born into the Dragon Clan, who have the ability heal others and to create and control shenlongs. The Dende Priests follow the teachings of Kami-sama Dende, who is regarded as the greatest spirtual teacher in Namekian history, and emphasize healing and strengthening their allies. Poko Priests, on the other hand, vomit eggs that hatch into demon shenlongs called Pokopen, which they can control, similar to Piccolo Daimao; these Pokopen include Bongo and Gamelan.


The Majin Race and Classes

After Goku left to train Oob, Mr. Boo and Mr. Satan won the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai by cheating, and remained undefeated through the 29th and 30th. However, after a while, Mr. Boo became envious of the humans and the close relationships they had with their sweethearts. In Age 790, Boo accidentally found and read Mr. Satan's copy of "Bob and Margaret", a controversial adult book, in his library. He began to study it in order to create a "Female Boo" that would be just his type. With the name Booby in mind, he removed part of his body and molded it into a wife for himself, then finished by hitting her with a Love Beam, causing her to give birth to a "Baby Boo". From then on the population grew quickly, and, in time, the descendants of Boo were recognized worldwide as the Mmajin race. They're an optimistic and joyful people who dedicate themselves to making "fun days" for otherse, though they can become dangerous when they're angry or confused. They stand against Miira in order to create a more pleasant Earth.

The majin fall into two basic categories: Daimajin (Large Majin) and Imajin (Strange Majin). The Daimajin are happy and have a natural gift for uplifting the spirits of those around them and are also able to reduce the impact of enemy attacks with their soft bodies. They can become Ultima, musicians who enjoy fighting and rally their friends with songs, or Granma, chefs who torment their enemies with a mischievous and fattening fighting style and use maces that resemble foods.

The Imajin, on the other hand, are majin that at some point experienced the corrupting influence of sin. They're aggressive, and develop fighting techniques capable of really hurting their enemies. They can become Plasmas, who become too fixated on enjoying themselves and taking pleasure in nature; like monks, Plasmas use their drums to draw on the power of nature (like lighting), but can also use the drums to fill their friends with rhythm. The Karmas are majin who have developed a dark side due to past experience with sin, and they dance and wear masks to frighten or entrance their enemies.


General Translation Notes

Regarding Martial Artists and Fighters, the Japanese terms, "budoka" and "kakutouka". Budo is a catch-all term referring to any sort of fighting style, while kakutou refers more specifically to hand-to-hand and competetive martial arts, though both are often translated as just "martial arts".

I've generally used "spiritual" as a catch-all for the Japanese term "kikou", or "ki control". This is actually the Japanese translation for the Chinese art of Chi Kung, and in Dragon Ball, refers to the cultivation and channeling of ki. The term's notable used by Tienshinhan in his "Kikouhou", which was dubbed as "Tri-Beam". In the "Kikoukenjutsu" (Spiritual Swordsmanship), the term implies that the sword techniques revolve around channeling ki into the blade.

The Crane and Turtle Hermits aren't called "Roshi". Roushi literally means "old man that teaches", and it's Muten Roushi's name. The Turtle and Crane Hermit classes are "Kame-senshi" and "Tsuru-senshi", with "senshi" meaning "hermit". Senshi is used to differentiate the class from the original Turtle and Crane Hermits, which are written as "Kame-sennin" and "Tsuru-sennin".

Regarding the namekian classes, the Makai Warriors (Makai Senshi) and Madou Warriors (Madou Senshi) are two different takes on Piccolo's teachings. Makai means "demon realm", and Madou means "demon arts". Dende Priests (Dende-doushi) are obviously disciples of Dende (his name is written as "Denden" in Korean). Poko Priests (Poko-doushi) are based on Piccolo Daimao, who summoned his demon offspring by chanting "Pokopen". In DBO, the demon dragons that Poko Priests summon are called Pokopen, and the two that are available are named Bongo and Gamelan, named after musical instruments just Piccolo Daimao's children.

Also, the Poko Priests don't use "hearthstones". They use "demon stones", or "maseki". The reason machine translations translate it as "hearthstone" is because that's the name of a World of Warcraft item that's called a "magic stone" in the Korean version, and that has the same hanja as "demon stone". Hearthstones in WoW are items you can use to teleport to whichever inn is currently set as your home, hearthstone (hearth means home).

Daimajin literally means "Large Majin"; "dai", meaning "big" or "large", refers specifically to size, even though female majin are obviously not big and fat. Some have been using "Mighty Majin", but I must say that the Japanese word for "mighty" is actually kyoudai, "large strength". Most likely, when they originally created the majin race, they intended for Daimajin to be fat and Imajin to be skinny, but instead decided to just make the males fat and the females skinny.

Imajin literally means "Strange Majin", referring to the fact that these are majin that have been tainted by sin, making them different from the Daimajin that live to make others happy. "I" means "strange", "abnormal", "unsual", etc., and though "wonder" is certainly apt, I don't think "Wonder Majin" accurately depicts them as being corrupted by sin.

Ultima, Granma, Plasma, and Karma are all obviously words that end in -ma, a referance to the "ma" in majin. Granma might very well come from "Grandma", as grandmother's are often known to cook for their families. The Plasmas are also pretty clearly inspired by the Japanese Thunder God, Raijin, who is usually depicted with a ring of drums on his back that he uses to create thunder.

[B]

Wow, this is all so surreal. I find Gohan writing a book about fighting, and Buu was reading Bob and Margaret to be hilarious.

Is there any reason specified why "Miira" attacked Namek?

[Kiyza]

And here we were thinking that that "Bob and Margret" book thing was fan made. It actually turned out to be true.

[Chuquita]

"Groundbreaking Science" and "Booby". XD Classic.

I remember "Bob and Margaret" from the Viz translations. Kamesennin had Goku reading it outloud to learn how to read outloud, but I never knew it was correct.

Is there a picture of Miira and the woman who created him anywhere? I'm very curious about that and how they would make use of Goku's dna.


There needs to be a new Jump Special for all this.

[Kiyza]

[quote="ChuquitaThere needs to be a new Jump Special for all this.[/quote]

I agree with you 100% on that. Or maybe an OVA of some sort that's outside of the game itself.

[Amaranth Sparrow]

Is there a picture of Miira and the woman who created him anywhere? I'm very curious about that and how they would make use of Goku's dna.

This picture was made by the owner of DBOCOM.com using pictures he extracted from the game files, I believe: http://www.dbocom.com/forum/picture.php ... ureid=2076

There's also this from a slideshow at a press conferance, but it's only got their silhouettes: http://www.4gamer.net/games/038/G003825 ... ml?num=029

And this is his in-game model:


On an unrelated note, I also really love the fact that Gohan finally became a scholar, then ended up writing a groundbreaking book on science that sent waves through the martial arts world.


I think there's going to be more information revealed about other classes and races as time goes on, but so far this is really all I've been able to find.

[Rocketman]

the human race has become cross-bred with the Saiyan race

Since there's only two sets of Saiyan DNA, the human population must be massively inbred.

[Herms]

Neat stuff...Would that be "Miira" as in "mummy"?

[Amaranth Sparrow]

Yeah, it's ミイラ, but I think it's probably more likely to be a play on Mirai, since he's from the future.

the human race has become cross-bred with the Saiyan race

Since there's only two sets of Saiyan DNA, the human population must be massively inbred.

Unlikely. By the time DB ended, the Saiyan DNA had already been diluted to 1/4th with Pan's generation. You have to consider that by the year 1000, we're looking at people that are already something like 10 generations removed from Goku and Vegeta.

If Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Bra each had a family and one or two children each, then within 10 generations you're already looking at thousands of human descendants with diluted saiyan DNA (something like 1% saiyan, maybe more when you consider it's genetically safe to breed with cousins that are a few generations removed).

[JulieYBM]

All very fascinating. Please keep a look out for more info!!

[Rocketman]

If Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Bra each had a family and one or two children each, then within 10 generations you're already looking at thousands of human descendants with diluted saiyan DNA

Out of a human population numbering in the billions.

[Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece]

Is anyone interested in making an English speaking Guild/Clan/Super Secret Club?

We could all run around like confused and illiterate imbeciles and have good times.

EDIT: Apparently due to KSSN shenanigans foreigners can't play this game unless someone in Korea will lend you their Social Security Number.

However, there's still a large chance that this will end up coming to English speaking countries. There are reports that many messages are already in English (Level Up!, some quotes and such text on signs in game, ect). Also, apparently there is already some English compatibility or some sort of conversion underway, as English curse words are filtered (Bitch, shit, motherfucker, you know, those words).

[Amaranth Sparrow]

If Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Bra each had a family and one or two children each, then within 10 generations you're already looking at thousands of human descendants with diluted saiyan DNA

Out of a human population numbering in the billions.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the human population in Dragon Ball is nearly that large. Earth in DBO is only one continent and only seems to have a few really large cities.

And again, even if that is the case, what's the difference? The importance is the characters you're playing, not all of the generic NPCs. When you make a human character, that character has Saiyan blood, it's a simple as that.

[LeprikanGT]

So who exactly is the blue guy with white hair?

I havent checked in much on this so I thought he was like a Kai or something.

I remember the glimpse of him in the earlier trailer, he looked way cooloer then. I thought he was way shorter and would have had Kai clothes or like a robe on.

EDIT: And I really hate this human/saiyan cross breed thing. It completely underminds the whole point of the saiyan race if just anyone can do it.

I wouldnt want to see any other saiyans really after Pan and Goten/Trunks since it would be less than 1/4th saiyan. I really hate there were no more girl saiyans, the saiyan race should have lived on, not turn into ....what its turned into.

[B]

So who exactly is the blue guy with white hair?

I havent checked in much on this so I thought he was like a Kai or something.

I remember the glimpse of him in the earlier trailer, he looked way cooloer then. I thought he was way shorter and would have had Kai clothes or like a robe on.

Blue guy is Miira.