Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[MR.Mark]

A few Nozawa like scream imitations hardly make him a good English Goku in my book. I really can't stand his surfer/Christopher Walken hybrid speech inflections.

Uh... Weren't you just talking about screams, in the first place?

Uh...yeah, do you think that just because Kelamis did a Nozawa imitation scream, that it was anywhere near intense?

Was it one of Kelamis best, sure, but nowhere near the sheer force which Sean belts out his screams.

[The GREAT D.]

Freeza knows Bardock's name? Since when was this?

Well seeing as he ordered Dodoria to kill Bardock's crew in the TV special. I'm pretty sure Freeza knows Bardock's name.

[Zionist]

Freeza knows Bardock's name? Since when was this?

Well seeing as he ordered Dodoria to kill Bardock's crew in the TV special. I'm pretty sure Freeza knows Bardock's name.

I don't remember that movie very well, did he specifically call the kill order by the name of the captain of the crew? Or, was it just something that Dodoria spilled?

[DB_Fan1991]

Great episode tonight. It seems like some slang was added into the last 2 episodes though. It's likely just TV version lines though. Everyone was at their A-Game today Sean Schemmel just gets better and better as Goku as does Chris Ayres as Freeza. My only complaint is that R. Bruce Elliot's Ginyu didn't try to sound girly when he was in Bulma's body.

[Mewzard]

Ginyu's not subtle at all, it's not that surprising once he started cheering for Freeza.

And I fail to see how Schemmel was inconsistent. I found his performance to be of high quality through the duration of the episode. Ayres matched that well, and they played lines off one another so perfectly. Schemmel and Ayres as Goku and Freeza had fantastic chemistry, it was amazingly well done. The others didn't get as much voice time, this was their time, Schemmel and Ayres. It was a very good time, I would say.

[DB_Fan1991]

Ginyu's not subtle at all, it's not that surprising once he started cheering for Freeza.

And I fail to see how Schemmel was inconsistent. I found his performance to be of high quality through the duration of the episode. Ayres matched that well, and they played lines off one another so perfectly. Schemmel and Ayres as Goku and Freeza had fantastic chemistry, it was amazingly well done. The others didn't get as much voice time, this was their time, Schemmel and Ayres. It was a very good time, I would say.

Agreed. To me Sean Schemmel has stayed consistent as Goku since the 2005 redub of the first 67 episodes of Z.

[The GREAT D.]

Freeza knows Bardock's name? Since when was this?

Well seeing as he ordered Dodoria to kill Bardock's crew in the TV special. I'm pretty sure Freeza knows Bardock's name.

I don't remember that movie very well, did he specifically call the kill order by the name of the captain of the crew? Or, was it just something that Dodoria spilled?

Freeza gave Bardock and his crew the order to go to planet Meat, and when they got to Meat they were ambushed by Dodoria and his men. So yeah, he specifically meant Bardock.

[ThunderPX]

Well seeing as he ordered Dodoria to kill Bardock's crew in the TV special. I'm pretty sure Freeza knows Bardock's name.

I don't remember that movie very well, did he specifically call the kill order by the name of the captain of the crew? Or, was it just something that Dodoria spilled?

Freeza gave Bardock and his crew the order to go to planet Meat, and when they got to Meat they were ambushed by Dodoria and his men. So yeah, he specifically meant Bardock.

Besides, look at it this way: the original season 3 dub also mentioned Bardock by name, and considering what they did to the rest of his backstory in those flashbacks...

[penguintruth]

Ginyu's not subtle at all, it's not that surprising once he started cheering for Freeza.

And I fail to see how Schemmel was inconsistent. I found his performance to be of high quality through the duration of the episode. Ayres matched that well, and they played lines off one another so perfectly. Schemmel and Ayres as Goku and Freeza had fantastic chemistry, it was amazingly well done. The others didn't get as much voice time, this was their time, Schemmel and Ayres. It was a very good time, I would say.

Really? Because I felt like Schemmel was going back into his old Goku at several points in the episode and his overall delivery was a lot better back when he fought Ginyu. He's totally lacking in that amused excitement that Goku shows. Everytime he tries it here he sounds too soft and whispery and every time he tries to be cocky he's too grainy and rough. There's none of that excitement or sincerity Nozawa brings to the role.

I didn't notice too much chemistry between him and Ayres, either. Sometimes it seems like Ayres is the only one in a scene doing any acting.

[DB_Fan1991]

There certainly was chemistry between Schemmel & Hammi....I mean Ayres. They certainly play off better than Schemmel & Young did. Ayres did sound like Mark Hammil was voicing Freeza instead today though which is fine by me as if Ayres hadn't been casted Mark Hammil would have been my second choice.

Yes penguintruth I like to argue with you for fun.

[Mewzard]

Ginyu's not subtle at all, it's not that surprising once he started cheering for Freeza.

And I fail to see how Schemmel was inconsistent. I found his performance to be of high quality through the duration of the episode. Ayres matched that well, and they played lines off one another so perfectly. Schemmel and Ayres as Goku and Freeza had fantastic chemistry, it was amazingly well done. The others didn't get as much voice time, this was their time, Schemmel and Ayres. It was a very good time, I would say.

Really? Because I felt like Schemmel was going back into his old Goku at several points in the episode and his overall delivery was a lot better back when he fought Ginyu. He's totally lacking in that amused excitement that Goku shows. Everytime he tries it here he sounds too soft and whispery and every time he tries to be cocky he's too grainy and rough. There's none of that excitement or sincerity Nozawa brings to the role.

I didn't notice too much chemistry between him and Ayres, either. Sometimes it seems like Ayres is the only one in a scene doing any acting.

What are you talking about? He kept Goku quite diverse in the voice roles. Cocky and enjoying it, excited and raring to go, angry and ready to destroy Freeza, firm and in control, it was fantastic. He covered the emotional spectrum as it fit. And I find Nozawa goes too high and rough when she does angry Goku, the screeching can be rough on the ears.

As for Chemistry, I found them playing off one another at several points. Their acting complemented each other nearly perfectly, and I couldn't have been more thrilled. The way they did their smug trade offs about their graces, for instance, showed me two guys having a lot of fun in their fighting.

[penguintruth]

What are you talking about? He kept Goku quite diverse in the voice roles. Cocky and enjoying it, excited and raring to go, angry and ready to destroy Freeza, firm and in control, it was fantastic. He covered the emotional spectrum as it fit. And I find Nozawa goes too high and rough when she does angry Goku, the screeching can be rough on the ears.

No, Schemmel's Goku doesn't cover the spectrum well at all. He does some good screams, when Goku's really pissed, he does a pretty good job with that, but he just doesn't get Goku's personality, he doesn't fill it his little subtleties, his off-beat tone. It comes off as being very phony when he tries. There are a few times when he does approach a more Goku-ish tone, but he can't seem to do that consistently.

As for Chemistry, I found them playing off one another at several points. Their acting complemented each other nearly perfectly, and I couldn't have been more thrilled. The way they did their smug trade offs about their graces, for instance, showed me two guys having a lot of fun in their fighting.

It's mostly the script doing that for Schemmel's half.

[MR.Mark]

As for Chemistry, I found them playing off one another at several points. Their acting complemented each other nearly perfectly, and I couldn't have been more thrilled. The way they did their smug trade offs about their graces, for instance, showed me two guys having a lot of fun in their fighting.

Fully agreed, Sean and Ayres definitely have chemistry. They played off each other well, I particularly liked when Freeza complimented Goku on his strength. Sean's delivery of the thank you had a nice cockiness to it.

[KaiserNeko]

Personally, I felt Sean was fine for the most part. The "talk the talk" line was... meh, as was the "ball in your court" line, considering I wouldn't expect either of them to be making such references, but that's alright.

Anyway, Sean was good. AYRES, on the other hand, was far from good.

He was magnificent. Love this man.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Can you really "play off" of someone, if you're recording in separate booths?

[B]

Can you really "play off" of someone, if you're recording in separate booths?

Well, somebody had to record first, and the second person gets to hear what they're responding to, usually.

[Codarik]

Great episode, Ginyu seemed a little off but it's fine. My only complaint is that Nicktoons edited out that 2 second moment of Ginyu feeling Bulma's breast after the body change. lol

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Can you really "play off" of someone, if you're recording in separate booths?

Well, somebody had to record first, and the second person gets to hear what they're responding to, usually.

Do they, though? I've never heard that. In any case, I guess the point I wanna make is that Japanese dubs will always sound more natural, because they do the whole round table recordings. Those guys can REALLY play off of each other.

[Innagadadavida]

Great episode, Ginyu seemed a little off but it's fine. My only complaint is that Nicktoons edited out that 2 second moment of Ginyu feeling Bulma's breast after the body change. lol

Uhhh... What did you expect?

[Kendamu]

Great episode, Ginyu seemed a little off but it's fine. My only complaint is that Nicktoons edited out that 2 second moment of Ginyu feeling Bulma's breast after the body change. lol

Uhhh... What did you expect?

I was expecting some sort of full-blown Bulma-on-frog H-Manga animated into Kai in order to ruin the breakneck speed the Freeza vs. Goku fight has been going at so far!