The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:57 am

Only Vegetto can kill gag characters. But Arale would probably get bored or distracted before she worked her way up to him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:08 am

Kaboom wrote:Only Vegetto can kill gag characters. But Arale would probably get bored or distracted before she worked her way up to him.
Why can Vegetto kill gag characters? Is there proof?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:50 am

Mjb1985 wrote:Couldn't one say that Tao's feat on General Blue was superior to Arale's?
It only looked like so because General Blue is weak, and Gag characters are always 10% stronger than their opponents.

In Vegetto's case, is there a difference beetween infinite and 10% more to it...?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:25 pm

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Kaboom wrote:Only Vegetto can kill gag characters. But Arale would probably get bored or distracted before she worked her way up to him.
Why can Vegetto kill gag characters? Is there proof?
Vegetto can do anything.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:12 pm

Yea dude, Vegetto is Arale's father. So you know she can't mess with him. Need more evidence? He's Vegetto! Alright, now that that's settled.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:07 pm

Mr. Satan can whoop Vegetto's ass to next Saturday.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:14 pm

Ok people are giving Vegetto the Chuck Norris treatment. "How can he kill gag characters." Please, I don't want the he's Vegetto, The Goddamn Vegetto, or other excuse like that. What actually allows him to kill gag characters.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:34 am

He punched the universe and fixed it.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:11 am

Rocketman wrote:He punched the universe and fixed it.
When was that. In the anime, Boohan was destroying the dimensional wall, which would have lead to the universes destruction. But, Vegetto didn't fix the universe with a punch. He just punched Boohan and stopped him before the dimensional damage became to much and caused a collapse. He didn't just punch the air and *poof* the universe was fixed. Though I haven't seen dbz filler in a while.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:20 am

Vegetto once took a poop, it turned SSJ3 and slapped Ultimate Gohan into submission.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:50 am

Mjb1985 wrote:Vegetto once took a poop, it turned SSJ3 and slapped Ultimate Gohan into submission.
Seriously now, that would be possible if Vegetto had taken a poop in Penguin Village. :lol:
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:56 am

Vegetto can kill gag character because he IS a "gag character." Only a type of power outside that of the DB Universe's normal laws of nature would allow him to survive, talk, and fight as a piece of candy, and that type of power is what we call "toonforce."
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:40 pm

Kaboom wrote:Vegetto can kill gag character because he IS a "gag character." Only a type of power outside that of the DB Universe's normal laws of nature would allow him to survive, talk, and fight as a piece of candy, and that type of power is what we call "toonforce."
:shock: Wow... I had never seen him from that interpretation. :o
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Godo » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:45 pm

I'd say that since Gotenks pretty much was a gag character and could be defeated by Gohan Buu, and Vegetto could defeat them both, then Vegetto can destroy gag characters. So Arale is screwed.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:35 pm

Kaboom wrote:Vegetto can kill gag character because he IS a "gag character." Only a type of power outside that of the DB Universe's normal laws of nature would allow him to survive, talk, and fight as a piece of candy, and that type of power is what we call "toonforce."
I guess. Was it stated anywhere he was a gag character. Are we supposed to speculate on this as well.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:46 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Was it stated anywhere he was a gag character
As if official sources take such subject seriously... :roll:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:09 pm

Good piece of sound logic and reason Kaboom. Vegetto fighting as candy was freaking amazing.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:22 pm

Vegetto is. No further elaboration is necessary.

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Post by Fox666 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:28 pm

Vegetto. No further elaboration is necessary.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Insertclevername » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:40 pm

Okay...

21st TB Oozaru Gokuu vs. Giant Piccolo (Vs. Radditz era)

For the sake of the debate, they are both roughly the same size.

Piccolo can't fly nor use any Ki based attacks other than his charged Makankosappo.
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