"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

[SSJ God Gogeta]

What's really a damn shame is nowadays all the cool what-if's go to the arcade games and the console fighting games seem to get jack diddly squat... When was the last time we got a what-if in a fighting game? Raging Blast 2?

That depends. Super Saiyan Bardock is a what-if, right? He got that in Xenoverse (damn weird that's the only one we got). And would you count the "villainous" characters?

I said cool what-if's!

I guess you could count SSJ Bardock but that's about it... We really don't have anything unique or cool that the console games can call it's own. Well aside from some characters turning purple...

[Saiga]

What's really a damn shame is nowadays all the cool what-if's go to the arcade games and the console fighting games seem to get jack diddly squat... When was the last time we got a what-if in a fighting game? Raging Blast 2?

That depends. Super Saiyan Bardock is a what-if, right? He got that in Xenoverse (damn weird that's the only one we got). And would you count the "villainous" characters?

I said cool what-if's!

I guess you could count SSJ Bardock but that's about it... We really don't have anything unique or cool that the console games can call it's own. Well aside from some characters turning purple...

Not when you asked the actual question you didn't.

Don't try to out nitpick me.

Although I don't know if EoB would mean SS Bardock isn't a what-if... it was created for Heroes, it's totally a what-if.

As for console games having their own, I'd count Demigra. I know he's not so popular, but I've got a soft spot for him. And yeah, he appears in Heroes, but fat chance getting a good what-if that isn't going to wind up there.

Hell, since Online has gone the way of the dodo, I'd just lump Towa and Miira as Xenoverse characters since that's the game that really brought them into the limelight and made them important enough for Heroes to start using.

Also, Xenoverse had Kaio-ken Yamcha and Kuririn! E-everyone was clamoring for those specifically, right?!

[Dbzfan94]

That depends. Super Saiyan Bardock is a what-if, right? He got that in Xenoverse (damn weird that's the only one we got). And would you count the "villainous" characters?

I said cool what-if's!

I guess you could count SSJ Bardock but that's about it... We really don't have anything unique or cool that the console games can call it's own. Well aside from some characters turning purple...

Not when you asked the actual question you didn't.

Don't try to out nitpick me.

Although I don't know if EoB would mean SS Bardock isn't a what-if... it was created for Heroes, it's totally a what-if.

As for console games having their own, I'd count Demigra. I know he's not so popular, but I've got a soft spot for him. And yeah, he appears in Heroes, but fat chance getting a good what-if that isn't going to wind up there.

Hell, since Online has gone the way of the dodo, I'd just lump Towa and Miira as Xenoverse characters since that's the game that really brought them into the limelight and made them important enough for Heroes to start using.

Also, Xenoverse had Kaio-ken Yamcha and Kuririn! E-everyone was clamoring for those specifically, right?!

Technically Online has been revived as of recently

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Technically Online has been revived as of recently

Fans using the official assets to recreate the game on a private server doesn't count as a revival in any manner that truly matters.

[Dbzfan94]

Technically Online has been revived as of recently

Fans using the official assets to recreate the game on a private server doesn't count as a revival in any manner that truly matters.

Yeah, that's why I said technically. Sorry for the confusion

[Noah]

Yeah, that's why I said technically. Sorry for the confusion

No need to be sorry, man! Everyone makes mistakes

[AnzuMazaki]

http://blog.thetshirtcollection.com/ori ... noverse-2/

Masato Hirano explains why there won't be any Original Dragonball in Xenoverse 2.
Same reason as Xenoverse 1.

[Grimlock]

Piccolo Daimaoh should be an exception though, they should add him and create a Parallel Quest/story mode-esque dedicated to him.

For the rest, I agree. Giving all the characters of Dragon Ball a "jetpack" is not the solution, and it would be just terrible in every imaginable way. There isn't much to do with them either.

[nato25]

It's a crappy reason but a kind of fair one. Kid Goku should just get the nimbus cloud after he jumps so I think they could at least add him in. I believe Tenkaichi 3 just had those characters be able to fly but always falling slowly. For me theres enough characters I'd want from Z/GT/Movies/Super over Dragon Ball characters that I don't mind this, but I don't feel canon should be the reason to keep fighters out of the game. Does it really matter if they fly in an out of universe game, it looks fine in Tenkaichi 3.

A Dragon Ball fighting needs a more 'grounded' (pun sort of intended) experience. Unfortunately I can't see a hardcore fighting game centered around Dragon Ball being popular enough for any company to take that sort of risk on.

[Hellspawn28]

UB22 had DB Kid Goku using the Nimbus Cloud, I don't see why XV2 could not do the same thing.

[simtek34]

Tien and Chaioutzu can fly, Kid Krillin Can fly, Kid Goku can use the Kinton, and so then, they can make the Demon King fly and nobody will care and just give Roshi a jet-pack and give Yamcha his bandit clothes with a Jetpack as an alt costume for him. All solved!

[simtek34]

I means kid Goku can use the nimbus

[HeroR]

That is a really crappy reason. The TB series didn't used this excuse. Just make everyone fly with the Dragon Ball characters being slow fliers or something. They already ignored the time-traveling rules of Dragon Ball to make the Time Patrollers possible, so why not. It also comes off as bull since they give humans the Nimbus for their 'transformation' and they can fly without it. Heck, they can make Goku fly using his tail like he did at the 21st tournament. Also, as other have pointed out, King Piccolo can fly.

[Grimlock]

They already ignored the time-traveling rules of Dragon Ball to make the Time Patrollers possible

Uhm, what? How so?

[HeroR]

They already ignored the time-traveling rules of Dragon Ball to make the Time Patrollers possible

Uhm, what? How so?

Time travel in Dragon Ball doesn't impact the future. Going into the past and changing events won't affect the future, but create a new timeline. Going by multiverse, you can changed the past or history, it's just that Future Trunks' time machines sucks and split the timeline. However, such a thing was never said in the manga. So yes, they ignored the time travel rules of Dragon Ball to create their own lore.

[Grimlock]

Time travel in Dragon Ball doesn't impact the future. Going into the past and changing events won't affect the future, but create a new timeline. Going by multiverse, you can changed the past or history, it's just that Future Trunks' time machines sucks and split the timeline. However, such a thing was never said in the manga. So yes, they ignored the time travel rules of Dragon Ball to create their own lore.

But in Xenoverse, you don't go to the past and change events, you prevent something bad from happening, so you go back and try to keep the things the way they should be. Scenes like Goku being the only one to die in Saiyan saga is the "what-if" moment, you go back to moments before that and you try to prevent that from happening, thus keeping the story the same as we know it. Trunks even says that no side-effect is left by doing that.

[Nejishiki]

Yeah, the purpose of the Time Patrol is making certain history runs its intended course. There's no way to fix what the Time Breakers do, so they correct the results they're attempting to alter.

[HeroR]

Time travel in Dragon Ball doesn't impact the future. Going into the past and changing events won't affect the future, but create a new timeline. Going by multiverse, you can changed the past or history, it's just that Future Trunks' time machines sucks and split the timeline. However, such a thing was never said in the manga. So yes, they ignored the time travel rules of Dragon Ball to create their own lore.

But in Xenoverse, you don't go to the past and change events, you prevent something bad from happening, so you go back and try to keep the things the way they should be. Scenes like Goku being the only one to die in Saiyan saga is the "what-if" moment, you go back to moments before that and you try to prevent that from happening, thus keeping the story the same as we know it. Trunks even says that no side-effect is left by doing that.

If the rules of time travel in Xenoverse works the same way as did in the manga, you wouldn't have to go back to keep things as they should be. So, Goku gets killed by Raditz. Sad, but it only creates a new timeline that doesn't affect the main timeline. Another example, Future Trunks getting killed by the androids shouldn't have erased Time Patrol Trunks. Only create a new timeline where Trunks dies to the androids.

[Kanassa]

If the rules of time travel in Xenoverse works the same way as did in the manga,

They don't as they're using an alternate method of time travel.

[HeroR]

If the rules of time travel in Xenoverse works the same way as did in the manga,

They don't as they're using an alternate method of time travel.

Which the game made up. Which is my point that their reasons for not including Dragon Ball characters since they can't fly makes little sense, since they already changed the rules of time travel to make Xenoverse possible.