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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:24 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:So there is no regular Super Saiyan Vegeta in this game?!
He's either buff (Super Vegeta) or Majin...
The text up there clearly states Super Saiyan Vegeta (超サイヤ人 ベジータ). It just so happens that all the character models in the game are very stout looking. We're getting Vegeta, Super Saiyan Vegeta and Maoji Vegeta. Super Saiyan grade II didn't seem to make the cut, no idea about his normal Super Saiayn 2 form yet...
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:29 pm

We should have Super Vegeta instead of CG base Gohan.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Saiga » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:33 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We should have Super Vegeta instead of CG base Gohan.
We should have a lot of things instead of other things. Fucking Freeza soldier...
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:45 pm

Saiga wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We should have Super Vegeta instead of CG base Gohan.
We should have a lot of things instead of other things. Fucking Freeza soldier...
They said that the game won't have a big roster because it's their first game & they don't have time. I understand that. The have characters like Saibaiman, Freeza Soldier, and Cell Jr. because they are multiple characters (many Saibaimen, many Freeza Soldiers, many Cell Jr.'s), so they can have them on a team to fill blanks in story mode. However, CG base Gohan doesn't have any place here since they want to focus on important characters (he never fought), and in-game transformations are not in this game (fuck you devs), so having a very important character like Super Vegeta in his place would be much better.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by SSJ6Goku » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:33 pm

Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z Characters <--- no Super Vegeta. Whiss is playable tho, that makes me happy :D

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:54 pm

SSJ6Goku wrote:Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z Characters <--- no Super Vegeta. Whiss is playable tho, that makes me happy :D
They aren't wrong, but I wouldn't take their list as an infallible source either. They have Vegeta listed for both the Saiyan and Freeza Arcs, but everything points to that being an actual costume switch. Especially since another base Vegeta wasn't listed on the character list on the game's official website.
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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:58 pm

Nexic_Breaker_D wrote:Gokus spirit bomb destroys the stage leaving a massive hole :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvnZlXz ... ata_player
If it stays there the rest of the fight, the game would get some massive brownie points.
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Post by SSJ6Goku » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:20 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
SSJ6Goku wrote:Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z Characters <--- no Super Vegeta. Whiss is playable tho, that makes me happy :D
They aren't wrong, but I wouldn't take their list as an infallible source either. They have Vegeta listed for both the Saiyan and Freeza Arcs, but everything points to that being an actual costume switch. Especially since another base Vegeta wasn't listed on the character list on the game's official website.
I hope your right, but the official site is outdated. they don't even have Buu or Bills listed as confirmed and those two are shown on the front page. I hope Namco updates this week.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:29 pm

SSJ6Goku wrote:I hope your right, but the official site is outdated. they don't even have Buu or Bills listed as confirmed and those two are shown on the front page. I hope Namco updates this week.
The website may not include everything we currently know about just yet, but there is a method to their madness. The website generally updates by arc, and looking over the character list,there isn't much room left. I don't see any of the open slots left going to Saiyan, Freeza or Cell Arc characters. So if Freeza Arc Vegeta isn't on the list now, I don't see him being put on there in the future. The remaining slots will likely go to characters from the Buu Arc or maybe a movie or two (Coola was hinted after all).
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:19 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:They said that the game won't have a big roster because it's their first game & they don't have time.
Four years is not enough to get everything done? Well, gameplay + graphics (check!) + design (check!) + story, as for Music/VAs they don't have to worry about that.

ARTDINK has been a game developer since 1986 so they should be able, besides, this isn't really a new game considering it's similar to their previous ones with the addition of 4v4 character on-screen.

Saying that they couldn't have in-game transformations is bullshit because they could very well. One transforms and the others fight the opponent, tadah.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:26 am

It's 2 years, not 4.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by SSJ6Goku » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:04 am

they are probably waiting to put in transformations in battle of z 2 so they can be like "hey u wanted it and we listen to fans here it is!!"

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:05 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It's 2 years, not 4.
Didn't Nostal say or whoever that they were developing it since 2011? But hell, even two years is a decent amount of time considering that Spike was doing them in a year or less.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:16 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It's 2 years, not 4.
Didn't Nostal say or whoever that they were developing it since 2011? But hell, even two years is a decent amount of time considering that Spike was doing them in a year or less.
Around December of 2011 if I recall correctly. Which is 2 years.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by MCDaveG » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:26 pm

There you have Batman Arkham Series..... Not sure about the first one, but each installment is made on two year basis. I know that you can't compare huge studios like Rocksteady or Warner, but for Christ sake, I don't understand how anyone can defend silly fighter with few characters: ''Two years, yeah, but it's the first game!''
I don't fucking care! It will cost almost the same money as new Batman, this shit! Since XBOX 360, I waited half a year for price drop, before I bought RB2, because these games aren't worth even half the price they are selling for.
I'm sorry to be rude, but you can't advocate shitty product only because it has Dragon Ball slapped on it, it doesn't work this way. I can't imagine any non-franchise series having made this much mess and still running. I will wonder if anyone will be still buying DB games on big consoles, as the handheld teritory is doing the series greater justice.
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MCDaveG wrote:There you have Batman Arkham Series..... Not sure about the first one, but each installment is made on two year basis. I know that you can't compare huge studios like Rocksteady or Warner, but for Christ sake, I don't understand how anyone can defend silly fighter with few characters: ''Two years, yeah, but it's the first game!''
I don't fucking care! It will cost almost the same money as new Batman, this shit! Since XBOX 360, I waited half a year for price drop, before I bought RB2, because these games aren't worth even half the price they are selling for.
I'm sorry to be rude, but you can't advocate shitty product only because it has Dragon Ball slapped on it, it doesn't work this way. I can't imagine any non-franchise series having made this much mess and still running. I will wonder if anyone will be still buying DB games on big consoles, as the handheld teritory is doing the series greater justice.
In terms of the actual game in Battle of Z I'm not really interested, but the anime scenes look pretty cool if that's something new like an OVA/Film (or short-film) then it could be worth purchasing.

Dave, not to be critical but I've been playing Arkham City on my Wii U (also own it for the 360) and the gameplay is almost like on the first game and I was expecting that but it's just repetitive. I decided to go back to W101 to finish it and then back to AC. I'll have to say that I've enjoyed more Arkham Asylum than Arkham City but I might change my opinion in the future.
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dbboxkaifan wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:There you have Batman Arkham Series..... Not sure about the first one, but each installment is made on two year basis. I know that you can't compare huge studios like Rocksteady or Warner, but for Christ sake, I don't understand how anyone can defend silly fighter with few characters: ''Two years, yeah, but it's the first game!''
I don't fucking care! It will cost almost the same money as new Batman, this shit! Since XBOX 360, I waited half a year for price drop, before I bought RB2, because these games aren't worth even half the price they are selling for.
I'm sorry to be rude, but you can't advocate shitty product only because it has Dragon Ball slapped on it, it doesn't work this way. I can't imagine any non-franchise series having made this much mess and still running. I will wonder if anyone will be still buying DB games on big consoles, as the handheld teritory is doing the series greater justice.
In terms of the actual game in Battle of Z I'm not really interested, but the anime scenes look pretty cool if that's something new like an OVA/Film (or short-film) then it could be worth purchasing.

Dave, not to be critical but I've been playing Arkham City on my Wii U (also own it for the 360) and the gameplay is almost like on the first game and I was expecting that but it's just repetitive. I decided to go back to W101 to finish it and then back to AC. I'll have to say that I've enjoyed more Arkham Asylum than Arkham City but I might change my opinion in the future.
a lot of companies like to use the "If it aint broke, dont fix it" approach. Thing is that approach is dangerous in its own right. Yeah its fun at first but then it becomes repetitive but hey, as long they sell and they get their money then why should they care? I personally cant stand that mindset.
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Post by MCDaveG » Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:41 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:There you have Batman Arkham Series..... Not sure about the first one, but each installment is made on two year basis. I know that you can't compare huge studios like Rocksteady or Warner, but for Christ sake, I don't understand how anyone can defend silly fighter with few characters: ''Two years, yeah, but it's the first game!''
I don't fucking care! It will cost almost the same money as new Batman, this shit! Since XBOX 360, I waited half a year for price drop, before I bought RB2, because these games aren't worth even half the price they are selling for.
I'm sorry to be rude, but you can't advocate shitty product only because it has Dragon Ball slapped on it, it doesn't work this way. I can't imagine any non-franchise series having made this much mess and still running. I will wonder if anyone will be still buying DB games on big consoles, as the handheld teritory is doing the series greater justice.
In terms of the actual game in Battle of Z I'm not really interested, but the anime scenes look pretty cool if that's something new like an OVA/Film (or short-film) then it could be worth purchasing.

Dave, not to be critical but I've been playing Arkham City on my Wii U (also own it for the 360) and the gameplay is almost like on the first game and I was expecting that but it's just repetitive. I decided to go back to W101 to finish it and then back to AC. I'll have to say that I've enjoyed more Arkham Asylum than Arkham City but I might change my opinion in the future.
Well, I may be little biased as a huge Batman fan, but it's true that Asylum is quite complex game and Arkham City is actually the same game, but with expanded weaponry and little tweaked combat system, but I enjoyed City more because of some interesting boss fights and also, there was ton of new content and completely different environment which required quite work. I loved the details of the city and I really believed that the part of the city was actually beatyful in far away times. But with Dragon Ball, the character design are quite simple and same goes for the ''bland'' arenas. This type of development quite worked with Budokai Tenkachi/Sparking Series, where it was downright same, but they expanded upon the engine with characters and such.
That's a thing that I completely don't understand with these games. Actually not that difficult, but the outcome is awfull. I can also understand really low budget and actual work lasting half a year with breaks, because we actually don't know if they really worked on it for two years. I don't believe that they were (not to mention Gohan's Gi being Krillin's reskin instead of new model :roll: )

They should've made some interesting and inovative story mode scenes in-game rather, than tossing away few video works on animators in Phillippines. My opinion only.
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Post by vince90x » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:40 am

I still hope this game flops

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:08 am

vince90x wrote:I still hope this game flops
Why?

If they manage to make the gameplay solid and fun then there's no reason for the game to be a failure then again, Platinum Games develops brilliant games but sadly they sell poorly. Known as: The Platinum Curse. :P
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