Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:54 pm

I'm really still not liking this artwork. Gohan's head is enormous in the Season Six artwork.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:53 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Wow American fanbase is spoiled a lot by Funi :D
Here, they just released the VHS back then and thats it :thumbdown:
I guess you can say that since FUNimation has released plenty of different releases for their fans but with the Blu-ray era they're wasting it with low budget remasterisations.

By the way, you've got Portugal as your country, so in case you're not aware the DBGT Portuguese dub was released on DVD but for only the first four episodes and it was cancelled afterwards.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:19 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote: I guess you can say that since FUNimation has released plenty of different releases for their fans but with the Blu-ray era they're wasting it with low budget remasterisations.

By the way, you've got Portugal as your country, so in case you're not aware the DBGT Portuguese dub was released on DVD but for only the first four episodes and it was cancelled afterwards.
I just learnt that some months ago. They didnt advertise it much back then.
And the store that selled those, called "Fnac", wasnt near for me to go there. But now, in my lunch time as payback, I'm always there reading the manga. :P

-About these Blu-ray-
From what I saw, one of the special features is cast interviews. Features just the english cast or the japanese one too?!
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Post by MagicBox » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:45 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:-About these Blu-ray-
From what I saw, one of the special features is cast interviews. Features just the english cast or the japanese one too?!
Only American cast members so far (though one of the bonus features did have some interesting footage of what seemed to be some members of Toei's staff working).

All of the bonus features are listed on the first page of this thread, by the way. :)
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Post by TheKingOfKamehamehas » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:19 pm

Really, I think the Blu-Ray sounds a little scratchy compared to the Dragon Box. As for the the covers, I think they did a pretty decent job on the main characters fighting but the characters behind it aren't the best :|
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Post by RocktheDragon » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:20 pm

I have to say that I really really enjoy the artwork for all the revealed copies! I know a lot of people have some problems with them and their quality but for me they definitely do the job. I'm not one to scoff at the little details and they are far from deal breakers.

I'm really excited to see the reveals for the last three covers. Funimation has really done a great job at giving buyers an incentive to have these blu-rays. They will make a very nice image when they all see a release! It makes it that much easier to purchase all of them as well! :p
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Post by RocktheDragon » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:21 pm

TheKingOfKamehamehas wrote:Really, I think the Blu-Ray sounds a little scratchy compared to the Dragon Box. As for the the covers, I think they did a pretty decent job on the main characters fighting but the characters behind it aren't the best :|
Really? And what does the Dragon Box sound like to you? Would you agree that it is a very muffled audio source at the least?

I find the Japanese audio on the BD to be much better than what the Dragon Boxes offer. And this is coming from someone who watches both the Dragon Boxes and the BD version on a daily basis.

So what makes the BD version seem so scratchy? I will definitely attempt to listen in on it the next time I put it on the tele because I think the audio is just straight up quality! And it is the best they could do with what they have to work with.
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Post by RocktheDragon » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:24 pm

MagicBox wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:-About these Blu-ray-
From what I saw, one of the special features is cast interviews. Features just the english cast or the japanese one too?!
Only American cast members so far (though one of the bonus features did have some interesting footage of what seemed to be some members of Toei's staff working).

All of the bonus features are listed on the first page of this thread, by the way. :)
See, that's another bonus that I really have to applaud Funimation for. I mean I can't really say what it really is. Does Funimation just set the bar so low that my expectations are just that much easier to meet? Or are they actually attempting to put out a decent release?

I appreciate the fact that they have included a lot of the old bonus features because it makes justifying this purchase even easier for someone who never owned many of the older Funimation releases. I suppose anyone could just go on Youtube to look them up but the point is having them on an actual disc to watch at one's convenience. So I am a little more impressed with Funimation at this point. They could have released a bare-bones package and not had to put down any cries of laziness but they included the features anyways.
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Post by TheKingOfKamehamehas » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:39 pm

Well I saw a comparison video, but I can't find it. I feel kind of lazy to make one so... does that mean that the Blu-Rays are close to the Dragon Boxes?
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Post by samuraix123 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:18 am

TheKingOfKamehamehas wrote:Well I saw a comparison video, but I can't find it. I feel kind of lazy to make one so... does that mean that the Blu-Rays are close to the Dragon Boxes?
What comparison video did you watch? These sets are nothing like the Dragon-boxes quality. Even though I like this release it will never be a Dragon-box quality type release. :)
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Post by Kakarot88 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:53 am

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TheKingOfKamehamehas wrote:Well I saw a comparison video, but I can't find it. I feel kind of lazy to make one so... does that mean that the Blu-Rays are close to the Dragon Boxes?
What comparison video did you watch? These sets are nothing like the Dragon-boxes quality. Even though I like this release it will never be a Dragon-box quality type release. :)
Ugh it's cropped. It is missing footage :( . I will never purchase this release because I already suffered a cropped release and went back and got the singles. Once you go original 4x3 everything else is just crap.
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Post by RocktheDragon » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:05 am

TheKingOfKamehamehas wrote:Well I saw a comparison video, but I can't find it. I feel kind of lazy to make one so... does that mean that the Blu-Rays are close to the Dragon Boxes?
All it means is that they cleaned up the audio a bit on the BD version. It doesn't mean it's a better overall release than the Dragon Boxes and that wasn't what I was saying.

This release, for me and for many others, has the Japanese audio presented in the clearest fashion I've seen beyond the original broadcasts. The audio clean up, along with the custom box art, are both reasons why I've chosen to support this release.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:26 am

I'm confused... What do cel scans have to do with this release? If you're suggesting that the 16mm film could ever look that good, then you're completely wrong.
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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:25 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:I'm confused... What do cel scans have to do with this release? If you're suggesting that the 16mm film could ever look that good, then you're completely wrong.
If you consider someone to be a complete idiot, do not waste your time talking with them. But if you consider your discussion partner to be an intelligent person, try to figure out what they mean.

If I had 8K digital scans of the cels and backgrounds, I would use them. There are tons of unfair comparisons favouring this release (or not favouring but still unfair). There is a need to balance them by adding some unfair comparison, which switches "the crappy one" and "the good one" positions.

If you still don't understand what these scans have to do with blu-ray release, I will tell ya. FUNimation is advertising their product as "modern looking". They are saying that, with the use of modern technology, they were able to eliminate all the flaws of 16 mm film and they made this show look like something produced today. These postcards are showing how Dragon Ball would look after "skipping" most of the photographic film flaws. Compare it to the crap FUNimation gives us.
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These are scans of postcards from 1986. As you can see, not only cels but also backgrounds are present there. It's possible that these shots were taken during the original production of the TV series. I believe that they are the exact representations of the original frames (I haven't checked it).

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:44 pm

...try to figure out what they mean.
Well, I said I was confused, because you didn't really explain your point, and instead just said that those cel photographs explained everything. You ought to describe what you mean, rather than being rather vague.

Besides, I think the "quality" of the footage speaks for itself. :P
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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:24 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:I said I was confused, because you didn't explain your point, and instead just said that those cel photographs explained everything. You ought to describe what you mean, rather than being rather vague. With one additional sentence, you could have cleared up any potential confusion, rather than leave it to the readers to figure it out.
Yes, you're right. I should have wrote some description of my point. I haven't done it because I was in a hurry when I posted these links. English writing is still hard for me (it takes time) and sometimes I'm just too lazy to sit and think how to convert my thoughts into proper English :) Despite of that, I still think that I achieved what I wanted to achieve. People will look on these shots and they will take some conclusions.

I wrote a couple of posts in this topic, you wrote a couple of posts in this topic. My comment was related to what you said about 16 mm film. I wasn't expecting that you would think that I wanted to say that "this is how 16 mm to digital transfer should look".
Metalwario64 wrote:Besides, I think the "quality" of the footage speaks for itself. :P
Yeah :)
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Post by Ajay » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:35 pm

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TheKingOfKamehamehas wrote:Really, I think the Blu-Ray sounds a little scratchy compared to the Dragon Box. As for the the covers, I think they did a pretty decent job on the main characters fighting but the characters behind it aren't the best :|
So what makes the BD version seem so scratchy? I will definitely attempt to listen in on it the next time I put it on the tele because I think the audio is just straight up quality! And it is the best they could do with what they have to work with.
If his speakers aren't the best and are too treble heavy then I can see why he would think it's scratchy.

Sounds fine on my system.
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Post by MarcFBR » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:39 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:There are tons of unfair comparisons favouring this release (or not favouring but still unfair). There is a need to balance them by adding some unfair comparison, which switches "the crappy one" and "the good one" positions.
So you are going to prove to people how bad the new release is by... showing them scans of material from another show that aren't even indicative of the quality of THAT show?

If anything you are just going to 'prove' to those same people that the new release is good.
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