Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

[VegettoEX]

You're comparing people playing bootleg Pokémon games to incorrectly-translated credits?

You may want to re-think the way you argue and present viewpoints. There is hardly a comparison to draw here.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

You're comparing people playing bootleg Pokémon games to incorrectly-translated credits?

They both are mistranslated in some way.

[Metalwario64]

It seems like Funi purposely left out a few things like the original Japanese title cards

Why is everybody forgetting that FUNimation has done that with every series since they ditched alternate angels a few years back?

[jjgp1112]

And not only that, but back when they actually did use them, they were pretty much the only anime distributor that did it.

[TheGreatness25]

I don't really care about the original title cards because it's not like I'm missing out on anything. The title cards took up a whole 3 seconds of screen time. And hey, if I want to see the title cards in Japanese, Kanzentai has them up.

As long as I have the entire series with the opening (and forget that, they have the textless opener/closer which is BETTER), all of the original Japanese audio, an accurate (and as accurate as it will get) translation, as well as an entire redub, I cannot ask for more.

If they don't zoom in footage or cut off parts of it, or leave out the episode previews (which they obviously don't), then I'm fine. The fact remains that I have a great edition of Kai, better than the Japanese. Why? Because I can actually understand it, whether listening to it or reading it. I am not missing anything from the show, except for some title cards in a language that I wouldn't understand anyway. So to me, FUNimation gets my blessing for this one.

[Blue]

"Tell me did you ever suffer any serious blows to the head when you were young?"
"What!?"
"ARE YOU STUPID TOO!?"

Amazing.

Also Gohan silently counting to himself was an adorable touch.

[MetalMadness]

I absolutely cannot believe some people are bashing this because of the title cards and the credits.

Do you realize you're complaining about a title that's on the screen for no more than 10 seconds? Really? It doesn't even alter the show whatsoever, and these translations are actually accurate too.

And who watches credits to begin with? You guys already know who the cast is; why would you care to watch the credits?

Sure, maybe some of you are upset that some people aren't getting credit for their work, but to be completely honest, 90% of the consumers who buy Dragon Ball Z Kai don't give a shit who did the voices for the Japanese version.

[dragonpiece]

I don't see why people care that title cards aren't included either, I mean it's not like we did not see this coming. I mean the Z and GT series did not have them so why would these?

[JulieYBM]

The English translations aren't exactly accurate.

Is it that surprising fans would like the phrase "uncut and unedited" to apply to a whole episode?

[TripleRach]

Do you realize you're complaining about a title that's on the screen for no more than 10 seconds? Really? It doesn't even alter the show whatsoever, and these translations are actually accurate too.

If they're so short and meaningless, why does it matter if they're translated?

And who watches credits to begin with? You guys already know who the cast is; why would you care to watch the credits?

Sure, maybe some of you are upset that some people aren't getting credit for their work, but to be completely honest, 90% of the consumers who buy Dragon Ball Z Kai don't give a shit who did the voices for the Japanese version.

I watch the credits. I care who worked on shows and movies that I watch. But as much of a Dragon Ball nerd as I might be, I certainly don't have every single cast or staff member for every single episode memorized.

And again, if 90% of consumers don't care who worked on the show, why bother to have English credits at all? Why make it more readable to consumers who aren't going to read it anyway?

[Big Momma]

Do you realize you're complaining about a title that's on the screen for no more than 10 seconds? Really? It doesn't even alter the show whatsoever, and these translations are actually accurate too.

If they're so short and meaningless, why does it matter if they're translated?

Because this is an English release. The whole big deal about this release is the new, accurate dub. Nothing about this release is meant to cater to the Japanese fans...besides the Japanese audio track, which has been a standard pretty much every DVD release up until now.

We got the original cards on the Dragon Box. That was catered to fans of the original. This is not. Ergo, English title cards.


EDIT: It's not like you can't find these credits elsewhere, like Kanzentai.

[Gaffer Tape]

Because this is an English release. The whole big deal about this release is the new, accurate dub.

Last I checked, this was supposedly a bilingual release. And to some people, the big deal is the show itself, not a decade-too-late dub.

[jjgp1112]

Because this is an English release. The whole big deal about this release is the new, accurate dub.

Last I checked, this was supposedly a bilingual release. And to some people, the big deal is the show itself, not a decade-too-late dub.

It's pretty obvious that this is catered toward people who are already fans of the dub or want a really good dub.

[Big Momma]

Because this is an English release. The whole big deal about this release is the new, accurate dub.

Last I checked, this was supposedly a bilingual release. And to some people, the big deal is the show itself, not a decade-too-late dub.

Of course it's bilingual. I already said it has the Japanese track. I know this.


But the thing is, FUNimation is putting all the emphasis on their new, accurate dub. This is supposed to be a big, new thing for the ENGLISH fanbase. A lot of the people getting this, that I've talked to, wouldn't even be doing so if it weren't for the new dub. I know I wouldn't. Regardless of whether it's a decade too-late, it's still a new,fresh, accurate dub that I will gladly accept. If you ask me, the show itself is a "filler-free" version of Z that is 2 decades too late.

It's not like they haven't translated the original credits, anyway...because they have.

[VegettoEX]

I'd argue that the "new dub" is just as much a push at the fanbase of the original Japanese version as it is for their (traditionally apathetic) standard, dub-only audience...

[Big Momma]

I'd argue that the "new dub" is just as much a push at the fanbase of the original Japanese version as it is for their (traditionally apathetic) standard, dub-only audience...

I was thinking that, too. But then...if you're a fan of the original, then what use would you have for a dub? If anything, I'd say it's for half-and-half.

[Mewzard]

To be honest, with the Dragon Boxes coming out, I wouldn't even be buying Kai if not for the more accurate dub. I've got my Japanese version with the DBoxes, and now my English version with Kai. It works with me as a fan of both voice casts.

[dan2026]

I'm not really interested in the dub, although it pleases me that Funi are making an effort this time.
The clincher for me is the vastly improved pacing and the newly recorded Japanese track to replace the old crappy mono.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

However I think the main reason I'm not buying this is because I find Raditz's and Nappa's voice actors annoying. They actually sound like Scooby Doo villians.

Are you serious? That's not good reason at all. Sure, voicing is important, but so is the accuracy of script. "Z Kai" finally has an accurate script after so many years of terrible dub. Raditz and Nappa sound just fine to fine. There was nothing wrong with them. Nappa has a new VA and Raditz sounded much better than previous dub. Schemmel's voicing for Goku has improved so much that it's now listenable. Just because Hujio has stated his opinion about VAs doesn't mean you should be the same. You should give it a chance to listen to a new dub before you draw your own consclusion.

[Metalwario64]

Nappa has a new VA

No he doesn't...